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Evo VIII Brakes on my 2g

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i have just the 2 piece fronts, the rears are DBA's, but just the 4000's... (solid) i didnt think the rear where worth it (my buddy only had the front ones, so i would have to pay MSRP for the rears)

i'm excited for this! what did you do about the rear dust shields? did you trim them? or remove entirely?

EDIT: also, how did you get the "BREMBO" logo back on the calipers? are they the vinyls? or is this something the powder coat guy did?

I removed the dust shields entirely. I stuck a flat head screw driver and just shimmied it off, it rips away at the welds. Then just hammer down the spots so its a flat surface.

As far as the logo you can use my mistake to keep yours looking nice. The powder coater sent me blank silver calipers. I went and ordered the stencils. Big mistake. The paint ran under the stencil, when I peeled up the stencil it bled out too. You are better off getting the stickers and clearcoating over the stickers. Either clear coat the whole front of the caliper with an even coat or just the letter of the stickers. I blocked off a square box around the logo and it looks terrible. Thats why my pictures werent so up-close. But you live and learn.
 
I removed the dust shields entirely. I stuck a flat head screw driver and just shimmied it off, it rips away at the welds. Then just hammer down the spots so its a flat surface.

As far as the logo you can use my mistake to keep yours looking nice. The powder coater sent me blank silver calipers. I went and ordered the stencils. Big mistake. The paint ran under the stencil, when I peeled up the stencil it bled out too. You are better off getting the stickers and clearcoating over the stickers. Either clear coat the whole front of the caliper with an even coat or just the letter of the stickers. I blocked off a square box around the logo and it looks terrible. Thats why my pictures werent so up-close. But you live and learn.

pmed ya, you dont by any chance remeber the part numbers you ordered for the pins and retainer springs do ya? i need them so i can order mine and get these brakes on my car... BTW, Terry over at maximal performance is a GREAT guy! :rocks:

let me get those part numbers from you!
 
Wonder how much fab work would be required to get the rears to fit a 1g, or if it's possible at all.

TCE makes a rear upgraded caliper kit for 1g, but sadly it removes the ability to use the parking/ebrake. It would probably go for the same as using brembo's, unless somebody made a way to use the parking brake like 2g's do.
 
for future reference everyone who is planing on this mod in the future,

Front Pins and anti squeal springs= MR475935 MSRP- $54.42 EA (you will need 1)

Rear Pins and anti squeal springs= MR475936 MSRP- $9.40 EA (you will need 1)

Front caliper mounting bolt= MR370729 MSRP- $7.42 EA (you will need 4)

FYI: the front caliper mounting bolts need washers... (you will need 4) rears can be bolted on using the OEM rear bolts from your DSM.

EDIT: Washer Part Number is MR407072 MSRP- $2.53 EA (4 needed.)
 
BFgoodridge lines come with the new larger bore banjo bolts, crush washers, and the unbeatable performance of BFgoodridge steel braided brake lines. $100 shipped off ebay. just be sure they are the G-STOP V2 (their should be a bend in the fittings on the rear lines to clear the rear axles) if you do not get the ones with the bend, the line will rub on the rear axles of the AWD DSM's (including the EVO).
 
There are so many dimensions that would have to be exactly right for that to work. IIRC, the brembo rotors use a 3.04" pad width and PBR calipers for the Baer are 2.03". I could be wrong about that but you also need the offset and mount heights to be right. I would give you an award for luckiest DSMer if those fit.
 
There are so many dimensions that would have to be exactly right for that to work. IIRC, the brembo rotors use a 3.04" pad width and PBR calipers for the Baer are 2.03". I could be wrong about that but you also need the offset and mount heights to be right. I would give you an award for luckiest DSMer if those fit.
Thanks for the info. I have the Evo 9 rotors and callipers but just to be curious,I'm gonna pull the Baer PBR calliper off and see what happens when I fit on the Brembo calliper and Evo pads on the Eradispeed rotor. I have the dimensions of the brembo rotors so if I have to I will call BAER and see if they have a bigger replacement rotor to replace the rotor that's on the eradispeed hat. Of course I'll give Baer the dimensions of the brembo rotor to see if they can match something up if possible.
The mount heights and offset will be chkd. After all Baer uses a bracket that bolts to the knuckles to actually mount the PBR calliper on the car. I will not need this bracket anymore is my belief.

Also when you look at the Baer setup and the eradispeed rotor you can see that the pbr caliper does not come near the hat of the rotor,the caliper is actually riding on what looks like 85% of the rotor with the pads as opposed to coming close to the rotor hat like the Brembo calliper and pad perhaps would. Again i'll chk all and let everyone know.

Never hurts to find out I'd say.:thumb:
 
Also here is the brake bias calculations I did using EVO fronts compared to other available rears

BRAKE BIAS


master cyl diameter .9375

front:
fwd piston diameter: 2.375"
fwd rotor diameter: 10.8"
awd piston: 0.916x2
awd rotor: 10.83

rear:
piston size FWD: 1.375
rotor size FWD: 10.31
rotor size awd: 10.31
rotor size early awd: 10.83
piston size awd: 1.5
pad width: 1.6

all 2g prop valves same

evo calipers
front:
rotor: 12.6"
pad: 3.04"
piston 1 - 1.575 x2
piston 2 - 1.811 x2

rear:
rotor: 11.81"
piston 1 - 1.575 x2
pad width = 2.64"

stock FWD 2g brakes = 71.8% front bias
bias relative to stock:
EVO front calipers added to stock rear 2g brakes = +7% front bias
EVO front calipers + rare 95 GSX rears = + 1.5% front bias
EVO front calipers + evo rear calipers = + 5 % rear bias
EVO front calipers + powerslot rotor up kit = +3% front bias


Looks like evo rears are a must have.
 
Also here is the brake bias calculations I did using EVO fronts compared to other available rears

BRAKE BIAS


master cyl diameter .9375

front:
fwd piston diameter: 2.375"
fwd rotor diameter: 10.8"
awd piston: 0.916x2
awd rotor: 10.83

rear:
piston size FWD: 1.375
rotor size FWD: 10.31
rotor size awd: 10.31
rotor size early awd: 10.83
piston size awd: 1.5
pad width: 1.6

all 2g prop valves same

evo calipers
front:
rotor: 12.6"
pad: 3.04"
piston 1 - 1.575 x2
piston 2 - 1.811 x2

rear:
rotor: 11.81"
piston 1 - 1.575 x2
pad width = 2.64"

stock FWD 2g brakes = 71.8% front bias
bias relative to stock:
EVO front calipers added to stock rear 2g brakes = +7% front bias
EVO front calipers + rare 95 GSX rears = + 1.5% front bias
EVO front calipers + evo rear calipers = + 5 % rear bias
EVO front calipers + powerslot rotor up kit = +3% front bias


Looks like evo rears are a must have.
Good info here Drew.:thumb:

Thankfully I do have the rear Evo rotor and calipers. It seems like the Eradispeed 2 piece rotors(13") that I have are bigger than the stock EVO rotors.

I am so eager to see if these EVO calipers will work with these rotors. If they do I will just need to hurry up and order the knuckles from Mitsumissle in Japan.

I'll keep all posted.
 
I guess if these would bolt up to a rear 1g then you could probabaly make a hydraulic e-brake system fairly easy
 
back from powder coat red:

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ready to rebuild. I got the rebuild kits from girodisc. The guy over there Martin was *really* cool. If i didnt already have the PF floating rotors I would have bought a set from him
 
I'm sending my Evo calipers over to JNZ over the winter for a black stealth look. Red just doesn't go with the whip.
 
More pics of rear caliper mounted please.
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Drew, did the pistons (and etc) have to be removed to prep and powder coat it? Or would it be okay to send out as is?
 
Drew, did the pistons (and etc) have to be removed to prep and powder coat it? Or would it be okay to send out as is?

I would actually advise against powder coating the calipers. Brembo actually told me that directly because of the evasive nature of the powder coating process. They told me they've seen calipers ruined by the process. Just some food for thought.
 
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