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Bolt Setup for 2gb Bumper.

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DSMGoliath

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Jun 30, 2006
Grandville, Michigan
I just recently bought a 2gb bumper and tried to install it. Two of the bolts snapped due to rust and corrosion. I was wondering if anyone knows the size and lengths of the bolt that hold the bumper. I am going to see if Home Depot or another hardware store has the same size bolts in a stainless steel. It will not rust plus it would look really good and clean. Thanks.:talon:
 
I just recently bought a 2gb bumper and tried to install it. Two of the bolts snapped due to rust and corrosion. I was wondering if anyone knows the size and lengths of the bolt that hold the bumper. I am going to see if Home Depot or another hardware store has the same size bolts in a stainless steel. It will not rust plus it would look really good and clean. Thanks.:talon:

YEA, they are just some crappy grade 4 bolts. Just take one off the fender they are the same and bring it to home depot with you.
 
Check out a local junkyard and see what they have for either eclipse's or talons's. I had the same problem when i changed the rear bumper on my old eclipse. The bolts just snapped while taking them off.
I just went to the junkyard and took them off talon they had their. Since there just bolts you dont have to pay for them like you would have to pay for other parts.
 
If you have a tap, just drill it out and re-tap it with a 1/4 inch. Unless you can remove the remaining bolt without drilling, you might just as well drill it out and replace it. I only say use a 1/4 inch because that is the standard equivalent and can be found easier than metric in most cases. After awhile, you will notice that just about all those 10mm bolts just break off, so in either case, a standard or metric tap is real handy.
 
For the 2 side bolts that hold the bumper to the fender, zipties do wonders.
 
I drilled and tapped new holes in the fender for whatever size tap/bolts I had available at the time. A couple of them stripped out the next time I had to reinstall the bumper, and I am now sporting 2 oddball bolts and 2 zip-ties. There is no gap.

I agree with Mike, (and the countless other DSM'ers doing the same) there's no shame in using zip-ties here. ;)
 
I agree with Mike, (and the countless other DSM'ers doing the same) there's no shame in using zip-ties here. ;)

Word up bro. It's easy and fast to take the bumper off if you need to as well. No need to get the ratchet in there, just a wire cutter and boom...Off.
 
You guys are horrible, and the reason why many DSMs look like crap. It takes about 15-20min to remove a factory bumper, and about 10 to reinstall. If something is difficult for any of you to do, I would imagine you are not doing it correctly. To make your life easier, get a set of picks and a small v-notch 'clip-popper' tool. This will allow for easy removal of all the black push-in clips that attach the fender liner to the bumper. For just about everything else you will need a 1/4" ratchet, some extensions, and 10mm sockets. I do not understand what is so hard.

I am sure you will all cry and claim zip-ties work so well, but I am trying to help you. Maybe I should do a bumper R&I how-to.
 
You guys are horrible, and the reason why many DSMs look like crap. It takes about 15-20min to remove a factory bumper, and about 10 to reinstall. If something is difficult for any of you to do, I would imagine you are not doing it correctly. To make your life easier, get a set of picks and a small v-notch 'clip-popper' tool. This will allow for easy removal of all the black push-in clips that attach the fender liner to the bumper. For just about everything else you will need a 1/4" ratchet, some extensions, and 10mm sockets. I do not understand what is so hard.

I am sure you will all cry and claim zip-ties work so well, but I am trying to help you. Maybe I should do a bumper R&I how-to.

It takes me about 1 min to remove my bumper if I have to. It looks exacly like it would if I were using bolts instead of zipties. Nobody ever said removing the bumper was difficult, but the way I have it, I save A LOT of time and headache if I am short on time or having a problem and I need the bumper off.

Thanks for calling my DSM crap also:notgood:

Do you see anything wrong with fitment of this?:
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Only 3 bolts and 2 zipties holding the bumper on.
 
It takes me about 1 min to remove my bumper if I have to. It looks exacly like it would if I were using bolts instead of zipties. Nobody ever said removing the bumper was difficult, but the way I have it, I save A LOT of time and headache if I am short on time or having a problem and I need the bumper off.

Thanks for calling my DSM crap also:notgood:

Do you see anything wrong with fitment of this?:

Only 3 bolts and 2 zipties holding the bumper on.

Yes, I do.

First of all, you are missing the spash shield on the right side, and most likely the left side too. Secondly, you are not running the factory impact bar or absorber, which also gives the bumper a lot of support, which is why your bumper sags underneath the headlights. You admitted to using three bolts and two zipties, so no matter WHERE you put them you do not have nearly enough holding the bumper to the car. However good you may think it looks sitting in the parking lot it probably has a metric assload of play if you were to bump it, and would deflect even more at 65mph. If you are to the point where you ziptie a bumper on to save 5 minutes of unscrewing small bolts, I would hate to see how the rest of your car is put together.
 
You guys should both head to the track so you both can stfu.

Whoever said zipties are garbage, why was our car put together like garbage that we have to result to such measures?
 
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Splash shields were taken out because they busted and were hitting the tire and wearing away. What that has to do with the actual bumper, I have no idea so not sure why you brought that up. The actual "bumper support" yes was taken out as well to make room for the intercooler fitment. I have made brackets that hold the bumper up around the headlights as well but these pictures were taken well over a year ago before I made them.

Does screwing a bolt in REALLY a big difference from using a zip tie to hold it? No it does not, it holds it as close as if a bolt did. Most of the 2g's I have worked on has had those bolts holding up the sides rust and break off if you try to remove them, that is why I chose not to utilize bolts anymore.

You guys should both head to the track so you both can stfu.

You stfu ;)
 
Splash shields were taken out because they busted and were hitting the tire and wearing away. What that has to do with the actual bumper, I have no idea so not sure why you brought that up. The actual "bumper support" yes was taken out as well to make room for the intercooler fitment. I have made brackets that hold the bumper up around the headlights as well but these pictures were taken well over a year ago before I made them.

Does screwing a bolt in REALLY a big difference from using a zip tie to hold it? No it does not, it holds it as close as if a bolt did. Most of the 2g's I have worked on has had those bolts holding up the sides rust and break off if you try to remove them, that is why I chose not to utilize bolts anymore.



You stfu ;)

Whatever. Splash shields and bumper reinforcement all contribute to the rigidity of the bumper cover. You continue driving your car around with a floppy front end that lacks pieces and hardware. If your level of quality involves zip-tying body parts on, so be it. It reflects in the pictures of your car.
 
I have all of the plastic inner wheelwell spashgaurds in place with bolts and those damn black plastic push in clips, I have a Hahn smic so I still have my factory impact bar and absorber. The only place I use zipties is to attach the front clip to the upper inside of the fenders. I use bolts everywhere else. I also built a tubular aluminum brace system that goes inside the bottom of my 2Gb front clip's lip to make it rigid and filled the entire inside of the 2Gb front clip with great stuff expanding foam (exterior grade) that I shaved smooth. There isn't anything on my front clip that is floppy or deflects. And as for time it takes it is a lot different working on a car in the winter time in an unheated uninsulated garage (as my Talon is a year 'round D.D.) than it is working on it in California unless something has drastically changed since I lived there '94-'97.
 
Whatever. Splash shields and bumper reinforcement all contribute to the rigidity of the bumper cover. You continue driving your car around with a floppy front end that lacks pieces and hardware. If your level of quality involves zip-tying body parts on, so be it. It reflects in the pictures of your car.

I will continue to drive the car around with "a floppy front end". It isn't floppy and how would you know if it was since your car is in prestine shape and not missing one factory piece?

My level of quality reflects in the picture of my car? My one picture, my avatar? LoL I took that picture the day I got my car back on the road from hitting a deer. Even without the bumper support from my FMIC, the front-end wasn't that bad. I had a bodyshop pull it straight for no charge because it didn't take long. Only parts I had to replace was a hood, bumper, headlights, and fmic. Nothing else. Probably would have done more damage had the front bumper support been on it. My car looks nothing like my avatar picture now.
 
I'm using all the bolts except for one one each side holding the bumper to the fender is gone, and I used a zip-tie instead. With all the bastard black clips, bolts and zip-ties, my front bumper is just as sturdy as it was with the bolts, and if I wouldn't say anything nobody would know.

Its a bumper, and we are talking about the bumper to fender bolts being replaced with zip-ties. Have you ever used a zip-tie? They've good tensile strength and are more than adequate for this particular job.
 
I've removed all my spash guard's and most plastic's under there, there anoying.

But, yeah untill recently I had 2 bolts, and like 3 zip ties holding my car together, It was horrible. I just finnaly took a few hours out of my day and re-tapped all the holes and the bumper fits so awesome, and i don't feel like a ricey douche bag driving around now.
 
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