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Road America recap: (RA) Aug 4/5

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Dave532

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Jun 5, 2006
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Road America recap: (RA) Aug 4/5

Elkhart Lake, WI

NASA Racing in 1G DSM

Saturday practice was spent tuning the car for this track and watching
the brakes closely. While RA is the fastest track seen all season, it is
also the hardest on brakes. Qualifying was uneventful. During almost the
entire race I was wheel to wheel with a Thunder Roadster. He eventually
passed me on the last lap due to a lapping M3 which almost chopped
off my nose and forced me to lock brakes in the kink. Regardless, it
was a great time. I was seeing 130 mph at the end of the 3 long straights.


Sunday brought fog and light rain. I skipped Practice because it was
raining and, according to the weather experts, it was going to dry out
before Qualifying. However, Qualifying brought more rain and all I had for
rain tires were some Kumho MX street tires...big mistake. The car would
not turn at corner exit and had little overall grip...lesson learned: buy
R compound rain tires! The best I could qualify was 8th. After Qualifying, the
rain stopped though it was still misty with some fog. ( I had to change
my braking point into Turn 1 because the fog obscured the brake markers!)
Thirty minutes before the race I put my dry tires on...5 minutes before the
race it starts to rain again! So the grid was a mess...fast cars on drys,
slow cars on wets...every possible combination. After a couple first lap
spins (M3 and Acura), the field settles in and tries to stay on the road.
by lap 4 the rain stops and I start gaining positions on cars with wets (and some
911's and M3's on dry tires start catching me). There are only 2 other
cars in my class so my goal is to pass them, which I do, a couple laps
before the end of the race. The last 2 laps my brake rotors were so
warped, I couldn't see out of the car while braking due to the intense vibration.


Excellent weekend, great racing and the car came back relatively clean.
A new set of rotors and pads and I should be ready for the NASA Nationals
at Mid-Ohio in Sep.


-Dave

#532
NASA PTC
Rally America PGT
 
Dave - I was the only other DSM that was there that weekend.
I watched your qualifying session on Saturday from turn 5. You had some great racing going on with that Thunder Roadster. It was exciting to see you guys trade positions almost every time between 5 and 6 as you went up the hill.
Good stuff man, keep it up. It's great to see a DSM in NASA comp. racing. :thumb: :thumb:

Jeff
 
I am trading my Mid-American for a thunder roadster after the october RA events. Ed was driving the roadster you were racing with. It had a hayabusa engine under the hood.
 
Sorry about the delay with pics...I have only found one (I think it's the entry to 5). I'll upload it soon.


I am trading my Mid-American for a thunder roadster after the october RA events. Ed was driving the roadster you were racing with. It had a hayabusa engine under the hood.


I had a great talk with Ed after the race...he's been racing a looooong time and said it was some of the best racing he had in a while. If you do go for the Roadster, my perception was it could outbrake me and was faster through the slower corners. I think I had better balance through the faster corners and seemed to out-pull him at the end of the long straights. As a reference my DSM is 193 whp with a stock motor, 16G, 12 lbs of boost and 2940 lbs.

If you get a TR, let me know what ya think. They look like a blast.

-Dave

NASA PTC
Rally America PGT
 
You also got to realized ed cant corner as good as someone a lot younger can. I believe he is 76 or 77 years old. Mike the mechanic said they also had in a gear that just wasn't close enough to where they need the rpm band.

A roadster is 1600 lbs with driver and the hayabusa he had was rated somewhere around 187hp.
 
Nice Dave! Let's see some pics!

Per your request, I registered for the NASA event at Hastings.
Where are you?
I don't see you in the entry list or the list of instructors.

Where are all the DSMs you said would be there?
I see only one other DSM in an HPDE class.

I wuz kinda hoping to meet the Glorious Founder and a bunch more DSMers...

Rich
 
Dave sounds like you had fun, it was great meeting you at MAM. Man racing in Rain would really suck, I have never done so nor do I ever want to. I guess it would bring a whole new element into driving fast...

Rich,
I would really like to go to hastings but honestly I am flat broke, and still can't figure out what is going on with the eclipse. I AM STUMPED, I will be making an extensive help post in drivetrain one of these nights. All I know now is the trans has to come back out then go through everything take pictures etc to see of someone can see a problem!
 
Rich,
I would really like to go to hastings but honestly I am flat broke, and still can't figure out what is going on with the eclipse. I AM STUMPED, I will be making an extensive help post in drivetrain one of these nights. All I know now is the trans has to come back out then go through everything take pictures etc to see of someone can see a problem!

Too bad. Would have liked to pit next to you and your lunatic crew again. I'm not sure which of us has the weirdest crew. At least mine don't drive Hondas. Among my four regular crew guys are two DSMs and six 3000GT/Stealths. One DSM and two 3000Gts will be racing next year (Not all four come along to every event, although sometimes it seems that way).

By the bye, I bet Mike the Mechanic (my crew chief) could fix your tranny.

Rich
 
I will be making an extensive help post in drivetrain one of these nights. All I know now is the trans has to come back out then go through everything take pictures etc to see of someone can see a problem!

I'll be watching for the post and I'll see if I can help. You'd be amazed at how many people have been-there, done-that with seemingly weird transmission problems. Post up, I bet the good people on DSMTuners can spot your problem.

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Congrats Dave. I checked Mylaps.com on Monday and saw you had some good competition. Glad to hear you did well!! I hope to be in PTC competing with you soon. See you at Nationals!! We'll have to make sure we can pit close together.
 
I'll be watching for the post and I'll see if I can help. You'd be amazed at how many people have been-there, done-that with seemingly weird transmission problems. Post up, I bet the good people on DSMTuners can spot your problem.

Stealth TT is Mike the Mechanic, by the way.

I'm not sure what your problem is, but I was plagued with shifting problems, and discovered that it was a simple fix: the transmission mounting bolts came loose, the tranny moves a fraction of an inch, and it gets very hard to make the 3-4 and 4-3 shifts. You may want to crawl under there and make sure your tranny is bolted down securely, just in case that's it.

Rich
 
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