daren_p said:

Well I bought the Injen intake when I first got the car (my first mod) I paid $225 (but that comes with the filter adapter & a K&N Filter, did the Ebay one?). For the price you paid I would say thats not a bad deal. Like has been said the couplers aren't as good & the Injen intakes are cast as well but the outside is much nicer, no pits etc. & the inside was slightly rough but was alot smoother then the pics of the Ebay one. But then again you can easily sand yours smoother if you wanted.

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the ebay one did come w/ a filter (not k&n) and a plastic adapter. i didn't think it was a bad deal either but i'm going to continue to use my injen filter and adapter along with the couplers and hoses.

ps my injen intake is alot nicer.

the filter that comes with those are junk. Ive got a k&n fipk on the end of my ebay pipe

AdoreGSX said:

the filter that comes with those are junk. Ive got a k&n fipk on the end of my ebay pipe

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mine came w/ a yellow filter. it's ok, i wouldn't say it junk. i don't think it's not reusable. i didn't pay much attention to it because i already have two air filters. (injens' and a k&n)

DSMeclipse4G63 said:

smooth intake = bad...if youe intake manifold were smooth the air fuel mixture wouldnt atomized very well.....

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Such is true for Center port FI and Carb vehicles but not true of MPFI cars like ours.

thegreatms said:

I don't know about you but my fuel gets injected at the end of the intake manifold. Are you thinking about the head?

In any case we are taking about the intake pipe before the turbo, no fuel there. I don't think it makes much of a differance but i would prefer smooth for my whole intake track.

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Ok well either way this is how its supposed to be(Intake doesnt count should have included that). Rough surfaces have to do with swirl and atomization....plus making half the intake smooth and the other rough would be a pain. Besides the injectors arent the only source for fuel, egr is pumping fuel back into the intake manifold and so are other emissions equipment. But again like I said that intake should give you every bit of the same hp the injen will.

Yeah, the intake came with 2 filter adapters. One for big filters like the fipk and another for smaller ones. It also came with 3 hoses, the 2 couplers, and all clamps. The only real meaningful difference to me are the pits on the outside. If they could get rid of that I dont think there would be any reason whatsoever to get the Injen. Except if you enjoy flushing $100+ down the toilet. You cant even see the Injen logo on it, its on the wrong side .

Also, dont buy the intakes with the filters. Your just paying like $30 extra for a crap filter.

i have an injen but for $65 you can't beat that. who cares if it doesn't look as good as an injen, it still does the same job.

lazylaser said:

I agree, the price is over the initial $65 of the ebay one. But its all a matter of quality. There is a reason those silicon couplers are $29. They're not some cheap knock offs, and I'd bet they would last longer then the ones you were provided with.

Simply put, if you were looking for a cheap solution, you got it. End of story.

You can buy the fp intake once, and be done with it. Knowing its good quality

69 + 25 + 29 = 123

You can buy the ebay one, once and when the couplers tear and/or the welds crack, you can buy another.

65 + 65 = 130

Which math looks better to you?


And the point of: "have it flanged for whatever bov you've got" was pointed in the direction of venting/not. Just figured I'd clear that up.

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Not to beat a dead horse, but simply put, i got the intake because it was cheapest way to match my 2g mas to my car. as far as "the welds cracking and couplers tearing" what makes you think there is any force or pressure on the welds and couplers (it stays put for the most part) as far as venting or not obviously i want to recirculate considering my setup, and the ebay intake already comes with the tube to recirculate and i didnt even have to pay extra. If the time ever comes when i dont need to recirculate i can simply cap it off, becuause im sure this intake will be on the car as long as it lasts. as far as filter, the auction for mine didnt offer a filter and wasnt needed, i got a universal k&n all said and done $110. The fp doesnt come with a filter so add that to the math said above. Thats $175...as far as quality a piece of cast is a piece of cast weather fp's cast is better, which i fully realize it is considering the pits in the ebay one a nice coat of flat black not only covers taking the bling bling factor out it also pretty much bandages the pits, now which math looks better to you?
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that was my first mod, i bought it in march of last year and put a ractive filter on it cause i had one layin round(the one with the heat shield), im getting a FIPK soon the ractive has been cleaned twice and getting old, but i noticed a much better flow of air being mostly stock at the time and increased spooling time,i felt it has held up for 65 bux, the couplings are shatty, although i didnt replace mine til last month,but overall i would say (ive never used the injen) its most likly just as good welds are still good on the recirc..so dont hate just cause its a teens(poor man) treasure

Yeah not to get off on something else but I dont see what the $100 extra for the fipk rather than a normal K&N or other filter does. I mean it's a $120 filter. That seems like a hell of a lot for a filter. Does it really flow that much more?

proven 7.7 hp gain from a stock eclipse...seen dyno charts...can get em for 99 plus like 12 shipping on ebay

gstspyda97 said:

proven 7.7 hp gain from a stock eclipse...seen dyno charts...can get em for 99 plus like 12 shipping on ebay

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that gain is probably just from opening the restriction from the stock airbox, not really sure the intake tube by itself produces any meaningful gains

Home Depot Intake is like 5$ why would you pay 65% for somethign on ebay that won't do any better than the Home Depot intake...

Shit for 65$ I could make 13 Intakes and have one painted a different color for every damn day of the week.

I was thinking of getting the Dejon Tool CIP-2gK1 is that any good ?

JessesTalon said:

Home Depot Intake is like 5$ why would you pay 65% for somethign on ebay that won't do any better than the Home Depot intake...

Shit for 65$ I could make 13 Intakes and have one painted a different color for every damn day of the week.

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I chose the ebay one cause I also care about looks. Not enough to spend $220 but enough to spend $60. And it goes with my polished 1g bov.

I really dont see how the FIPK can be worth that. I think it's just marketing. Isn't the only difference that it's got a little more surface area, say 50% more. So that should work out to about $45 ($30 + $15=$45) not $120.

when i said dyno proven 7.7...that was from the FIPK...not the intake pipe....look on K&N.com it has the dyno chart

Someone on machvforums dyno'd the injen intake pipe back to back with a stock intake pipe to find zero hp/tq gain.

i think in other words lazylaser wants u to get a platnium plated titanium intake pipe and slap on some HKS,JUN,TRUST stickers on it, and end up with the best quality money can buy. Duh

JessesTalon said:

Home Depot Intake is like 5$ why would you pay 65% for somethign on ebay that won't do any better than the Home Depot intake...

Shit for 65$ I could make 13 Intakes and have one painted a different color for every damn day of the week.

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Im glad i dont have a 13 day week. j/k man that works fine yes, no argument there, i guess what im saying is im too good for that, but I have my car and you have yours.

Don't smooth out the inside of the intake piping. This article is about intercoolers, but the idea is the same. It says "Definitely don't polish the inside of tanks or pipes. An ultra smooth surface causes capillary tension on the surface layer of air with the wall & will increase drag..."

hey i wanna get a new intake sysytem and saw this one, just wonderin what you guys thought on the quality........it does have a k & N filter though.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38634&item=7962105471&rd=1

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173679&highlight=ebay+intake

there ya go...personally i have it...works great

91PlyLaser said:

i think in other words lazylaser wants u to get a platnium plated titanium intake pipe and slap on some HKS,JUN,TRUST stickers on it, and end up with the best quality money can buy. Duh

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I think in other words I was trying to help people avoid buying shit. Go talk trash somewhere else, ass.

We've already established that the ebay intakes are just as good performance wise as anything else, so seems to me, 91plylaser is right, and hes not talking trash, i think you "trying to help people avoid buying sh-t" would be talking trash, considering you have no personal experience with anything in this discussion. basicly your making opionions on what other people say, and judging performance on looks.

15psi88 said:

We've already established that the ebay intakes are just as good performance wise as anything else, so seems to me, 91plylaser is right, and hes not talking trash, i think you "trying to help people avoid buying sh-t" would be talking trash, considering you have no personal experience with anything in this discussion. basicly your making opionions on what other people say, and judging performance on looks.

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Well, considering everyone in this thread so far has basically argued with what I stated, I do not understand how I am making opinions on what other people say.

You seem to be confusing trash talk with actual facts. The intake is pitted, the welds are crummy, the couplers are also nothing to brag about. How is that trash talk? I'm simply stating observations.

As far as "We've already established that the ebay intakes are just as good performance wise as anything else," I do not see any dyno sheets comparing the two. I realize they probably flow nearly the same, but do not tell me I have no personal experience when you do not have anything to back up your claim. Yes, you may have one of these intakes but until there is evidence that they flow the same, then you're opinion is just as 'judgemental' as mine is; saying that just because it looks like a similar product means that it flows just as good as that product. Wouldnt that be judging performance on looks?

If you would like to continue arguing with me, I invite you to take it to PM's to keep this kind of garbage out of the forums.