that head has to look real nice right now.......

thats still inferior to my melted piston mod, now i have 3000000000000 horsepower more than before, totalling about 0

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thought people around here weren't so uptight and wouldn't mind a little kidding around, looks like i was wrong. :thumbdown

wow, i made a thread about somone who makes serious power just to start some shits and giggles and i get these ricer responces. ####in idiots.

good god. So whats he gonna do? I thought eagle rods were supposed to be fairly strong. Any more pics of the car ?

Black95TSIawd said:

26psi on an sbr GT-13 and 100 shot, spinning through fourth. If any of you kno what youre looking at, its an eagle rod. Talk about ownage! :evilgrin: Car was tuned right with a 12.0 a/f ratio and no knock. Too much power i guess.

ps. its not my car, a friends.

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He called me this morning and told me about it. I almost shit myself.

phalanx said:

so how did the welds on the manifold hold up?

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You are an idiot. I hope you realize posting useless bullshit in the hangout doesnt add to your post count.

I hope you aren't calling anyone a "ricer" with what is on your trunk lid, boy.

DMS-WhiteGSX said:

You are an idiot. I hope you realize posting useless bullshit in the hangout doesnt add to your post count.

I hope you aren't calling anyone a "ricer" with what is on your trunk lid, boy.

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BURN!

He showed me those pics earlier. that is awesome. Just more motivation to go ahead with the 2.4

DMS-WhiteGSX said:

You are an idiot. I hope you realize posting useless bullshit in the hangout doesnt add to your post count.

I hope you aren't calling anyone a "ricer" with what is on your trunk lid, boy.

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man u need to lighten up a bit. Its called a joking around....this is afterall the HANGOUT.

goodness gracious, is that thing legal?

Strange, I thought Eagles although cheaper and not as strong as some of your more expensive rods were supposed to handle at least 650-700hp. Tell him to spend the extra money on this next build and go with pauter rod. Still not sure how that could have happend with Eagle rods.

Man dont you just love these no nothing morons that do nothing but post in the hangout section. People like this is why a lot of people make fun of and dont like dsmtuner.

Black95TSIawd said:

Car was tuned right with a 12.0 a/f ratio and no knock. Too much power i guess.

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It certainly isn’t from too much power obviously because there are people make several hundred more hp than that reliably.

It was definitely a tuning issue. I wouldn’t buy that afr and knock statement until I saw a log right before it went. That thing went VERY lean and had some serious detonation. That is the only thing that tears a motor up like that. That AFR sounds lean to me anyway. I would want to know how much timing he was running and what type of fuel he was running on.

hahahaha so funny that people talk about how the owner doesn't know shit, if you guys only knew who owns/built the car. :laugh:

tell me about it martin.

That's just insane. I'm still scrolling back up to the pic and saying dayum!

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It certainly isn’t from too much power obviously because there are people make several hundred more hp than that reliably.

It was definitely a tuning issue. I wouldn’t buy that afr and knock statement until I saw a log right before it went. That thing went VERY lean and had some serious detonation. That is the only thing that tears a motor up like that. That AFR sounds lean to me anyway. I would want to know how much timing he was running and what type of fuel he was running on.

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Yea, I agree. People have made a lot of power on those rods, and I think it was something else that made it, well, "blow up"

rdrkt said:

It certainly isn’t from too much power obviously because there are people make several hundred more hp than that reliably.

It was definitely a tuning issue. I wouldn’t buy that afr and knock statement until I saw a log right before it went. That thing went VERY lean and had some serious detonation. That is the only thing that tears a motor up like that. That AFR sounds lean to me anyway. I would want to know how much timing he was running and what type of fuel he was running on.

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you do know what an SBR GT13 is right? A turbo that leon rietman has gone 137mph traps in. Now add maybe 150whp to that.(just brought up leon for argument sake) This guys head is untouched. rod broke on downstroke and his head/piston tops/spark plugs show no signs of severe enough knock to throw an eagle rod. DSMlink read no knock. I do understand that eagle rods can handle and have handled more power then they have been rated for. But, i just think this guy had a faulty one. The block was just rebuilt, fresh deck and shave on the head, new rings, bearings. Perfect time when the car was at its peak for a bad rod to let go.

rdrkt said:

It certainly isn’t from too much power obviously because there are people make several hundred more hp than that reliably.

It was definitely a tuning issue. I wouldn’t buy that afr and knock statement until I saw a log right before it went. That thing went VERY lean and had some serious detonation. That is the only thing that tears a motor up like that. That AFR sounds lean to me anyway. I would want to know how much timing he was running and what type of fuel he was running on.

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The car is never ran on pump gas, as for the octane, I don't know offhand what exactly he was running at the time it blew up. All I know is he called me today and said the car was ripping, and according to the DSMLink there was no detonation, then the rod just folded and went straight out the cylinder wall, then the back of the block. Either way, its ####ing sick.

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hahahaha so funny that people talk about how the owner doesn't know shit, if you guys only knew who owns/built the car. :laugh:

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Thats what I hate so much about the DSM community, everyone just calls bullshit on everything.

We know Jesse, we know what happened, everyone else can just believe what they want to, there is no reason to lie about something like that.

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you do know what an SBR GT13 is right? A turbo that leon rietman has gone 137mph traps in. Now add maybe 150whp to that.(just brought up leon for argument sake) This guys head is untouched. rod broke on downstroke and his head/piston tops/spark plugs show no signs of severe enough knock to throw an eagle rod. DSMlink read no knock. I do understand that eagle rods can handle and have handled more power then they have been rated for. But, i just think this guy had a faulty one. The block was just rebuilt, fresh deck and shave on the head, new rings, bearings. Perfect time when the car was at its peak for a bad rod to let go.

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Gotta love the people who actually know the situation. There is NO way that rod wasn't faulty.

Yeah, NO damage at all to the head, the rod went through the cylinder wall.

damn id like to see a video of that car go. that sucks about the rod. better luck next time

Let's see the DSMLink log.

bet that sounded good when it happened. guess he learned what to not do next time. or how much he can push those internals to.

Yeah, its mine. For all informative purposes, car was running on c12, 16 degs of max timing, 12.0 tapering down to an 11.2 afr. 26psi of boost and 100 shot of nitrous, nothing that I havent done with it before. Unfortunately, I do not have a log saved for this run, in the excitement, the laptop was thrown in the back of the car and forgotten about, the battery died and it was not saved. Thing was running like it never had before, of course this always happens before they break.

Being that I built this engine, I was looking for every possable excuse to blame the failure on something I did, first was the rod bolt and bearing installation, all good. I questioned that the ring ends may have butted, siezing the piston in the hole, not the case. Tuning, deffinately a big factor, I wish I had undeniable evidence of detonation, plug looks perfect, piston top, everything looks fine. I would expect to see some pitting on the piston if detonation were this severe, or at least some sign in the aluminum at the edges of the valve reliefs. Faulty rod, another possability these were not new rods, 15k miles in the same engine, could I have weakened the rod previously? of course. I'm not one to sit here and shrug my shoulders and deny that its my fault it came apart, I'm the one who put the pedal to the floor. In cases where something like this happens, it is nice to know exactly what went on so it can be avoided in the future. Thats what I'm trying to figure out.

It deffinately came apart on a down stroke, the piston did not touch the head. My guess is the rod folded near center, for whatever reason and went out through the cylinder wall, right through the center of the casting plug, and then the big end busted the rest of the block apart, spectacular to say the least. It was making some good power, it was slipping my skinny hard 215/45/17s on the cold roads in 4th gear, never did that before.

JRM

There is a video of this car posted in the vids section, thread is "Open dump vids, post 'em".

Sounded great, pulling smoothly, one solid boom that shook the car, then it sounded bad, really bad, like someone threw a trashcan full of marbles under the car. My passenger was scrambling to get to the back seat, he thought he was going to lose his legs because the flywheel was coming through the firewall.

Some of you guys need to take a deep breath and settle down. I'm no different than anyone else playing around with these things, hell, if I were actually good at it, I wouldnt have scattered an engine across the highway, and would actually run good times at the track.

Here is another pic for your viewing pleasure.



JRM