iamtall77
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- Oct 9, 2002
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This conversion is becoming more common, but it is still difficult to find info on the subject. I know that:
1) The Mighty Max/D50 bellhousing matches the turbo block, but doesn't support power well.
2)The Starion/Conquest tranny supports the power and the internals are close enough to that of the MM/D50 that you can swap them in.
3)Buschur mates a Powerglide using a special adapter plate to the block
4)Some type of Toyota transmission can mate with the block using a welded hybrid bellhousing. the 4G63 bolt patern is cut from the tranny and welded to the Toyota gearbox.
Here's the problem:
1) What Toyota gearbox is it? I think it's the Celica/Supra, but who knows?
2) The NT 4G63 block is supposed to be a "wide" block and can mate to the Starion tranny correctly. Is that true? Are there any other transmissions that mate like that? (Some one said a Mazda truck tranny)
3) I heard a rumor that the Starion motor can bolt up to a GM tranny. Any fact behind that? It might mean that if #2 was correct then a GM tranny should mate to a NT "wide" block.
Anyone wondering why i'm thinking this, just listen. I have an AWD car and love it. But wouldn't it be nice to have the power to weight of the 4G63 in a slightly more efficient design? What about a 4G63 in a Miata or RX-7? Think of how much more simple the RWD layout is. No weak links to hold back from creating huge RELIABLE power. The tranny on the DSM is a known weak link. Extreme used to go through 3 transmissions in a weakend of racing. Shep has to overbuild the transmission to hold the power he puts down. How many AWD drag cars are there in the 3 second range? How many DSMs can make an 8 sec pass and not rip out the gears? Hell how many Skylines are in the 8 sec. range? (i've seen a mid 10 sec run at 5,000 ft here in Colorado) The AWD setup is great for holding traction in less than ideal situations and getting the power to the ground. But physics dictate that weight transfer in acceleration is going to end up in the rear (that's if you're going straight) Besides, we've accomplished so much with the DSM, why not go another direction?
My 2¢
1) The Mighty Max/D50 bellhousing matches the turbo block, but doesn't support power well.
2)The Starion/Conquest tranny supports the power and the internals are close enough to that of the MM/D50 that you can swap them in.
3)Buschur mates a Powerglide using a special adapter plate to the block
4)Some type of Toyota transmission can mate with the block using a welded hybrid bellhousing. the 4G63 bolt patern is cut from the tranny and welded to the Toyota gearbox.
Here's the problem:
1) What Toyota gearbox is it? I think it's the Celica/Supra, but who knows?
2) The NT 4G63 block is supposed to be a "wide" block and can mate to the Starion tranny correctly. Is that true? Are there any other transmissions that mate like that? (Some one said a Mazda truck tranny)
3) I heard a rumor that the Starion motor can bolt up to a GM tranny. Any fact behind that? It might mean that if #2 was correct then a GM tranny should mate to a NT "wide" block.
Anyone wondering why i'm thinking this, just listen. I have an AWD car and love it. But wouldn't it be nice to have the power to weight of the 4G63 in a slightly more efficient design? What about a 4G63 in a Miata or RX-7? Think of how much more simple the RWD layout is. No weak links to hold back from creating huge RELIABLE power. The tranny on the DSM is a known weak link. Extreme used to go through 3 transmissions in a weakend of racing. Shep has to overbuild the transmission to hold the power he puts down. How many AWD drag cars are there in the 3 second range? How many DSMs can make an 8 sec pass and not rip out the gears? Hell how many Skylines are in the 8 sec. range? (i've seen a mid 10 sec run at 5,000 ft here in Colorado) The AWD setup is great for holding traction in less than ideal situations and getting the power to the ground. But physics dictate that weight transfer in acceleration is going to end up in the rear (that's if you're going straight) Besides, we've accomplished so much with the DSM, why not go another direction?
My 2¢