v8s_are_slow
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So before I start, I'm posting this in the Dsmtuners and the Ecmlink forums alike to get as much information from people, and to people so that there's plenty of information being shared. So feel free to check out both places for the information.
That being said, I've been in the dsm scene for a good while, but nitrous is totally new to me and although I figured it would be a quick, "install kit, make sure it works correctly, and go", that definitely hasn't been the case and there's a steep learning curve if you're new to it because there's a lot of information to go over and to be learned if you want to be safe about it. I've asked and appreciated the answers given by a few folks like Kevin Jewer, Jeff Bush, Derek Austin, and Chris Keagy. But if there's one thing I'm learning so far is that everyone seems to have a different way of doing things and setting things up for what works for them. I hate bugging them to keep asking questions so maybe it's better to just throw it up on the forums. Because if I'm asking a question, certainly other people have questions as well. I'm hoping that this will blow up into a huge post with lots of good information in it. So let's begin with some of the questions I've had and maybe some of the things I have the answers to so far. If anyone is contributing, please state what your question is pertaining to as to whether it's regarding a wet, dry, direct port setup, etc to make sure the questions/answers given is in relation to THAT topic. Because we don't wanna see anyone blow up an engine due to a misunderstanding on this topic. So let's begin....
-Why would I want a Direct Port, Wet, or Dry from one over the other and advantages/disadvantages of each. Why would I want to run a 50 shot of dry over a 50 of wet for example?
-When to activate the nitrous and when to shut it off? Just for stalling a converter or all the way down the track? And why would I want to do one over the other? This should pertain to the 5 speed guys as well.
-What afr should I see while stalling for a launch? If I run it down the track, what should the afr's be while driving it? Does the fuel being used make a difference for the desired afr I want to target?
-What should an octane table look like when using the nitrous? What should a timing table look like? Examples would be great.
-What is a good bottle pressure to be running with nitrous? What happens if I spray outside of those parameters?
-Does the coolant temps matter when spraying?
-How long does it take for a bottle warmer take to get a bottle up to temps before I can use it?
-What happens if I run out of nitrous while racing?
-How to prevent a nitrous backfire and/or blowing up my engine?
-Can I use 2-step and/or Anti-lag with nitrous?
-Should I purge my system before each race? Only after the bottle is newly filled?
-How do I know what size jet to use and how do I know what is too big?
-Which plug and gap do you recommend using? Which heat range?
-How long should I expect a bottle of nitrous to last before needing to fill again?
-Should I use a single stage or dual stage? If I use a 2-step and need to stop spraying, how soon should I turn off before using the 2-step and/or before I turn the nitrous back on again?
-Does nitrous build boost when I stall? How long should it take to stall a converter with nitrous? Should I turn off the nitrous when I reach the desired rpm's for stalling, or stay on it until the light drops on the tree and/or staying in it all the way down the track?
-What to look for when inspecting plugs when using nitrous?
-If my ignition system breaks up while using nitrous, can that hurt my engine or cause a nitrous backfire?
-Does the turbine housing of my turbo make a difference and what about exhaust gas back pressure due to the nitrous?
I'll stop there but you can see all the questions in my head regarding nitrous and reason I felt it's best to make a post so as to not pester people to death. Lol. Please post your questions and/or answers at will to help everyone out. Feel free to copy and paste the questions I've posted and then answer each if that makes life easier. If you've made it this far, I appreciate you.
That being said, I've been in the dsm scene for a good while, but nitrous is totally new to me and although I figured it would be a quick, "install kit, make sure it works correctly, and go", that definitely hasn't been the case and there's a steep learning curve if you're new to it because there's a lot of information to go over and to be learned if you want to be safe about it. I've asked and appreciated the answers given by a few folks like Kevin Jewer, Jeff Bush, Derek Austin, and Chris Keagy. But if there's one thing I'm learning so far is that everyone seems to have a different way of doing things and setting things up for what works for them. I hate bugging them to keep asking questions so maybe it's better to just throw it up on the forums. Because if I'm asking a question, certainly other people have questions as well. I'm hoping that this will blow up into a huge post with lots of good information in it. So let's begin with some of the questions I've had and maybe some of the things I have the answers to so far. If anyone is contributing, please state what your question is pertaining to as to whether it's regarding a wet, dry, direct port setup, etc to make sure the questions/answers given is in relation to THAT topic. Because we don't wanna see anyone blow up an engine due to a misunderstanding on this topic. So let's begin....
-Why would I want a Direct Port, Wet, or Dry from one over the other and advantages/disadvantages of each. Why would I want to run a 50 shot of dry over a 50 of wet for example?
-When to activate the nitrous and when to shut it off? Just for stalling a converter or all the way down the track? And why would I want to do one over the other? This should pertain to the 5 speed guys as well.
-What afr should I see while stalling for a launch? If I run it down the track, what should the afr's be while driving it? Does the fuel being used make a difference for the desired afr I want to target?
-What should an octane table look like when using the nitrous? What should a timing table look like? Examples would be great.
-What is a good bottle pressure to be running with nitrous? What happens if I spray outside of those parameters?
-Does the coolant temps matter when spraying?
-How long does it take for a bottle warmer take to get a bottle up to temps before I can use it?
-What happens if I run out of nitrous while racing?
-How to prevent a nitrous backfire and/or blowing up my engine?
-Can I use 2-step and/or Anti-lag with nitrous?
-Should I purge my system before each race? Only after the bottle is newly filled?
-How do I know what size jet to use and how do I know what is too big?
-Which plug and gap do you recommend using? Which heat range?
-How long should I expect a bottle of nitrous to last before needing to fill again?
-Should I use a single stage or dual stage? If I use a 2-step and need to stop spraying, how soon should I turn off before using the 2-step and/or before I turn the nitrous back on again?
-Does nitrous build boost when I stall? How long should it take to stall a converter with nitrous? Should I turn off the nitrous when I reach the desired rpm's for stalling, or stay on it until the light drops on the tree and/or staying in it all the way down the track?
-What to look for when inspecting plugs when using nitrous?
-If my ignition system breaks up while using nitrous, can that hurt my engine or cause a nitrous backfire?
-Does the turbine housing of my turbo make a difference and what about exhaust gas back pressure due to the nitrous?
I'll stop there but you can see all the questions in my head regarding nitrous and reason I felt it's best to make a post so as to not pester people to death. Lol. Please post your questions and/or answers at will to help everyone out. Feel free to copy and paste the questions I've posted and then answer each if that makes life easier. If you've made it this far, I appreciate you.