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Bird58

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Oct 5, 2019
Revere, Massachusetts
Hello everyone I finally own a 1g eagle talon awd! The car is zero rust and well maintained. Car is set up as autoX and im unsure if I want to keep it that way because I love speed. I'm ready to do my research and learn from you guys, tips/tricks. Living in MA, not many DSMs around. Will update my profile soon with pics and new mods when the weather permits in NE. For now the Bird is off the ground and hibernating
 
You have come to the right place for tips and tricks . These guys ( and gals ) are a fun group to belong too. Go ahead and check out the forum tech articles for what ever your interest may be. You should find lots of useful information. There is no better site , bar none .. Welcome to the family Bird
 
Dont drive it in the winter ever ever for any reason or it will just be another statistic, its not possible to clean salt water from areas that you cant access, don't fool yourself or let anyone else fool you into thinking that you can, these cars are made from recycled Honda's and will dissolve like cotton candy in water if you winter drive them, keep it garaged and keep it pristine!
 
What has been done to it for autox?

hey midwestmopar thanks for showing interest! the suspension system has been modified:
ground control coil sleeves on Koni shocks front, KYBs AGX rear
ST rear sway bar
3SX upper rear adjustable tower bars
camber top plates
front and rear strut tower bars

I never done autoX and will try it out before i beef up the motor and do just Street i picked up a Dog Box tranny cant wait to install this spring!
 
Bird58 my eclipse was bought for the sole purpose of being a scca autocross car. This season in going to run about 4 or 5 events how I purchased it to see what needs to be changed out, which unfortunately it has tokico nonadjustable front and rear shocks and some sort of lowering springs on it that puts me out of stock class. But I plan to pull it in the garage this fall and built it to be competitive in which ever class I choose for it next season. You'll more than likely be under experienced in the class you'll run since so much has been done to your car but as long as youre having fun dont worry about the times you put down. And dont let the fact that you love speed shy you away from autox. The thrill of technique honing at 45mph for me outweighs going 100mph haha but if you want to go 100 then look into road racing. You have a good platform to start on already being set for autox.
 
Bird58 my eclipse was bought for the sole purpose of being a scca autocross car. This season in going to run about 4 or 5 events how I purchased it to see what needs to be changed out, which unfortunately it has tokico nonadjustable front and rear shocks and some sort of lowering springs on it that puts me out of stock class. But I plan to pull it in the garage this fall and built it to be competitive in which ever class I choose for it next season. You'll more than likely be under experienced in the class you'll run since so much has been done to your car but as long as youre having fun dont worry about the times you put down. And dont let the fact that you love speed shy you away from autox. The thrill of technique honing at 45mph for me outweighs going 100mph haha but if you want to go 100 then look into road racing. You have a good platform to start on already being set for autox.
Autocross is definitely fun. I just love running several laps on a road course to get more practice and enjoyment. Both are really enjoyable.

What a lot of people who own a turbo DSM don't realize is that a manual boost controller bumps these cars a few classes higher, which you'll almost certainly won't be competitive in. And that's one of the first mods people do to these cars. If you're N/T that obviously doesn't apply, you just then have to focus on suspension.
 
Ludachris, our scca puts on normally 2 track races a year at Putnam park. I havent been yet since I didnt have a dedicated car for track use but I plan to go this year to atleast one. Next year I'll strive to do every event. Currently in tore between what national class I want to stick with next year. This year with the lowering springs and shock I'll be forced to be in sms in the Indy region. I cant decide if I want to return the car to street class or pull the non adjustable shocks off put some nice suspension components on and go street touring. Back to birds original post id 100% say go to atleast one autox and one track day to see if its for you. They are alot of fun if you dont get caught up on trying to beat people that have done it alot longer than you have.(downfall to a competitive person just starting out haha )
 
They are alot of fun if you dont get caught up on trying to beat people that have done it alot longer than you have.(downfall to a competitive person just starting out haha )
Exactly. Too many first timers get caught up in prepping for the class they'll be put in, when the focus should be on basic prep (brake pads/rotors, brake fluid, tires, tire pressure, ball joints, tie rod ends, wheel bearings, and all the basic maintenance) and then just going out and having fun in whatever class. I know I fell into that trap too.
 
Bird58 my eclipse was bought for the sole purpose of being a scca autocross car. This season in going to run about 4 or 5 events how I purchased it to see what needs to be changed out, which unfortunately it has tokico nonadjustable front and rear shocks and some sort of lowering springs on it that puts me out of stock class. But I plan to pull it in the garage this fall and built it to be competitive in which ever class I choose for it next season. You'll more than likely be under experienced in the class you'll run since so much has been done to your car but as long as youre having fun dont worry about the times you put down. And dont let the fact that you love speed shy you away from autox. The thrill of technique honing at 45mph for me outweighs going 100mph haha but if you want to go 100 then look into road racing. You have a good platform to start on already being set for autox.



thankyou so much and yes im definitely going to try the autoX before i change anything but possibly road racing would be also great! im in Mass no many tracks around
 
Ludacris and mid west , i have a stock tranny in right now with a shot 4th gear i have two other stock trannys or should i just throw in my stage 5 dogbox to autocross with a bullet proof tranny?
 
bird58 in reality on autocross courses around me I wouldn't be getting out of third so if your trans in the car now currently works fine in 1-3 plus rev. id say run that one for now, now if there is chance of something coming loose in your trans id swap it out as soon as possible.
 
You don't really need a bad ass transmission for autocross - though anything bullet proof is always nice. What you might want to look into is the 1g power steering cut out fix in the tech articles section. I remember that coming into play for autox.
 
You don't really need a bad ass transmission for autocross - though anything bullet proof is always nice. What you might want to look into is the 1g power steering cut out fix in the tech articles section. I remember that coming into play for autox.


that was my next question for you two...should power steering come out? i know this is a debate question but i want peoples opinion
 
Bird58, I think its preference. I owned a Daytona t2 that someone had pulled the power steering and I didn't like it all that much. since that car ive never really wanted another car without powersteering. although now that I'm working my way up in racing ive been told some racers like the feel of no powersteering cause it gives them more feed back. When I owned the Daytona honestly I was just trying to keep it going straight when the boost came on. I wasn't into taking cars around the track then. more less going fast in a straight line.
 
Bird58, I think its preference. I owned a Daytona t2 that someone had pulled the power steering and I didn't like it all that much. since that car ive never really wanted another car without powersteering. although now that I'm working my way up in racing ive been told some racers like the feel of no powersteering cause it gives them more feed back. When I owned the Daytona honestly I was just trying to keep it going straight when the boost came on. I wasn't into taking cars around the track then. more less going fast in a straight line.


yeah if i was to take it off i would look into doing the power steering delete kit. helps a little with dead stop turns.. it will be a good workout though!
 
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