GSXbooster
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- Jun 3, 2003
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Centennial,
Colorado
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Cool i might take a shot at it i might as well use them for now if i got themI used a hand drill to drill out circles on the inside and around the rubber parts of the bushings. After that I used a hand saw to cut the metal sleeves in half. Then a nice, big hammer and a punch/chisel to knock them out.
Come to think of it I think I used a sledgehammer (BFH).
Cool i might take a shot at it i might as well use them for now if i got them
I can appreciate a detailed write-up. I'll be following along.
Nice work! When you set camber and caster up did you set it with a digital gauge and jacked up in the air or on the ground and keep raising to adjust etc?
Im asking as i may done some tip videos on how to setup stuff and the best way to do certain things to help others do it and checking correctly their settings. (Only thing that cannot be checked it bumpsteer withiut that gauge kit)
Did you get a chance to monitor your tire temps to see if you need more camber or keep it as it is front and back
And whens the next outing or did i miss that and not read it
Thanks dude!
For setting up the camber/caster I followed your install instructions & notes as best as I could:
1. The length of the OEM arms is roughly 16mm from fully threaded-in to threaded-out on all 3 rod ends.
2. 10mm of rod end thread = roughly 1° of camber
3. With all 3 of the rod ends fully threaded-in you will get -4° of camber and 6° of caster. (Thanks to @gsxitement for that info from his build journal.)
So with the above info I think I arrived at somewhere around 10mm of thread length on each rod end. I didn't use any tools for measuring.
I now have a camber/caster level gauge I can use for better 'approximate' readings. Of course using an alignment rack afterwards to finely dial them in. Currently I'm at -1.5° camber and caster is around 5.5°.
The rear is -.5° camber. Zero toe front & rear.
I did not monitor tire temps. I just roughly measured the arms, installed then and then drove to the track and raced.
My next HPDE event isn't until June! (so far away) but Open Lapping days have started up again at High Plains Raceway. I'd like to try to get a corner balance soon before attending - I'm thinking maybe next month or sooner if I can make it happen easily.
How did you find turning in and reaction of the front with the arms? Did you notice steering getting lighter or heavier after install? Im trying to log details so i know if i need to do any development work in the future and its always good for me know and get feedback. So any info or details i welcome them. Can reply here or pm me if you choose.
A good spot on setup will be much better and offer you alot more condidence for sure. Why have you opted for zero toe? You may want to add some toe in on the rear to keep the tire temps up a bit and if you work that with the rear toe arms and calculate bump toe you can work this to your advantage and also remember awd rear end toes out under acceleration.
Thanks dude!
For setting up the camber/caster I followed your install instructions & notes as best as I could:
1. The length of the OEM arms is roughly 16mm from fully threaded-in to threaded-out on all 3 rod ends.
2. 10mm of rod end thread = roughly 1° of camber
3. With all 3 of the rod ends fully threaded-in you will get -4° of camber and 6° of caster. (Thanks to @gsxitement for that info from his build journal.)
So with the above info I think I arrived at somewhere around 10mm of thread length on each rod end. I didn't use any tools for measuring.
I now have a camber/caster level gauge I can use for better 'approximate' readings. Of course using an alignment rack afterwards to finely dial them in. Currently I'm at -1.5° camber and caster is around 5.5°.
The rear is -.5° camber. Zero toe front & rear.
I did not monitor tire temps. I just roughly measured the arms, installed then and then drove to the track and raced.
My next HPDE event isn't until June! (so far away) but Open Lapping days have started up again at High Plains Raceway. I'd like to try to get a corner balance soon before attending - I'm thinking maybe next month or sooner if I can make it happen easily.