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Gap between engine and tranny?

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Tundra57SS

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Sep 22, 2014
Statesboro, Georgia
Not quite sure what to think of this one. I was attempting to install my front motor mount bracket onto the engine, and I couldn't find where to bolt it in (still haven't). When I looked at the tranny, I noticed a gap between the two that looks to have resulted from a mismatched tranny (is this possible?). What is this and is this a reason my tranny is grinding/popping every downshift?

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I should have mentioned, I bought this car dirt cheap not running a month ago. I finally got it running and took it out, a lot of noises when downshifting. Went to install the front engine mount thinking it might be that, and found this gap. I haven't touched anything more since.

With that said, what would cause this and how can I fix it?
 
The trans looks to be cocked alittle wrong. It should have 2 dowels it sits on to line it up. I don't think yours is on the dowels correctly and it looks like it's missing the starter plate. If let go you will end up breaking things!
 
Holy shiize! Yea, dowels, bolts, and dont forget about(on the 2g at least) the sneaky bottom one that goes in near the starter. Its smaller than the rest. 12mm iirc
Im surprised nothing is broke, but it very well may be at this point. Get 'er outta there and fix it. If its not the right trans then how did you get the axles(half shafts as i call em) in and everything else assembled?
It looks spun counterclockwise. You should have dowel pins that align it. Get new ones if you're missing em.

I didnt read dsmkauai post. he's on it....
 
G'day.
IMHO. 2 things:-
1. If the car is a Galant VR4 and there is no place to bolt the front engine mount, you have a 7 bolt 2G/EVO block.
2. The transmission from a VR4 will fit up to a 7 bolt, but you need to manufacture a front engine mount as the 2G/EVO front engine mount does not mount to the block. Starter motor plate should be the one from the transmission. Is the the transmission a CP50 CP51 or W5M33? The noises could be any number of things.
I run a 7 bolt block/VR4 head and manifolds in my rally VR4. It works fine as I fabricated an engine mount.
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Cheers
Ross :)
 
Okay, so I'm not going crazy-- something is definitely f-ed up. This is on a 94 1gb tsi. It doesn't look like there are any bolt holes for the bracket to go into, tranny nor block. I'm thinking it has to do with the misalignment. I'm surprised it's even been driving, we were able to get a few redline runs out of it perfectly before I caught this.

Time to pull the engine..
 
Okay, so I'm not going crazy-- something is definitely f-ed up. This is on a 94 1gb tsi. It doesn't look like there are any bolt holes for the bracket to go into, tranny nor block. I'm thinking it has to do with the misalignment. I'm surprised it's even been driving, we were able to get a few redline runs out of it perfectly before I caught this.

Time to pull the engine..

I know exactly what is going on. First off you have a 2g 7 bolt engine in there. They don't have the bolt holes for the roll stops on the block like a 1g block does. Next, the 2g engine has an extra bellhousing bolt and the block just sticks out further than the transmission with that combo. You are also missing the starter plate from the looks of it. People aren't used to seeing the 2g engine with a 1g transmission because a 2g engine isn't a direct swap in a 1g, and a 1g trans won't work in a 2g. This is why it looks so wierd. You will either need to fabricate up some roll stops somehow or swap a 1g engine in there.
 
I see, but why do I have an adjustable blacktop cas and no crank sensor then? I'm confused
 
I see, but why do I have an adjustable blacktop cas and no crank sensor then? I'm confused

Because it is a 1g and you use the 1g cam sensor. You have a 94 which uses a black top sensor. I am not sure what head you have, but the 1g cam sensor will bolt to either head.[DOUBLEPOST=1413591506][/DOUBLEPOST]
I mean I thought they weren't adjustable for 2gs though?

If you were running the engine in a 2g with 2g sensors than you'd be right, but it is in a 1g with a 1g sensor so it is adjustable.[DOUBLEPOST=1413591672][/DOUBLEPOST]

Huh? Do you know what that part is that you just recommended. That is the flywheel dust shield that bolts to the bottom of the bellhousing. It has nothing to do with this. If you read my post you would see that he simply has a 2g block with a 1g transmission, which will have a gap there because of the slight difference in the shape of the bellhousings.
 
I understand now. So my only real option is to pull them both and either get a 2g tranny (and crossmember) or a 1g engine. Correct? Where is a reputable place on the internet to get them at?
 
I dont think ANY 1g, be it 6/7 bolt used a crank trigger. Ergo, you have a 1g cas on the head and thats the ONLY trigger for spark/fuel
2gs use both crank and cam sensors but can be ran with a little wiring, to use just the cas same as a 1g.

That's all well and good but first off get the tranny issue sorted like the guys said. Dont worry about the cas if its running fine
 
I understand now. So my only real option is to pull them both and either get a 2g tranny (and crossmember) or a 1g engine. Correct? Where is a reputable place on the internet to get them at?

A 2g tranny won't exactly work right because the roll stops will be about 10 inches to far to the passenger side. The 2g crossmember is nowhere near close to being able to bolt in. You best options are to make mount brackets, or just buy a 1g bottom end.
 
Ahh okay, I'll have to start sourcing one. Thanks. Also, I had another thought: can I run a 2g engine off of a 1g ecu and harness w/o modification? I have a 91 ecu in there now and it came with an EPROM 94 ecu as well.
 
Well i hate to say this but same thing happend to me and plate was shattered inside in three or four piece. And every time i down shifted i got a grind. I also got a grind from starter when starting because plate was shattered and starter was hitting it. I had to drop transmission. Look for new plate had no luck so just welded up old one. New cluch installed also. My dowl pins were there just at a bad angle from when last person did clutch job. I also traded my GSX for my gs.
 
Ahh okay, I'll have to start sourcing one. Thanks. Also, I had another thought: can I run a 2g engine off of a 1g ecu and harness w/o modification? I have a 91 ecu in there now and it came with an EPROM 94 ecu as well.

Of course you can. If you are running 1g sensors than the ecu doesn't know any difference.
 
A '90 engine/tranny/diff combo would be a drop in, right? Just reverse the pinouts for the CAS (and use my current sensors now)? Guy a few towns over has one for $800. If it's not too difficult, I might just bite on that.
 
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