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If you buy one of his chips you wont be able to change anything on it with a cable. In order to do that, you need ecmlink software, cable, and the chip in you ecu. Those chips he burns for what you have/want and you put it in your socket and run it. If you change something or want something changed then you have to send your chip back and tell him so he can make the changes and send it back. Does that help you?
 
If you buy one of his chips you wont be able to change anything on it with a cable. In order to do that, you need ecmlink software, cable, and the chip in you ecu. Those chips he burns for what you have/want and you put it in your socket and run it. If you change something or want something changed then you have to send your chip back and tell him so he can make the changes and send it back. Does that help you?

So if I get a chip burner then I could essentially copy the files off his chip and load them on to ecmlinks flash able chip that comes with the cable and CD....right?
 
That im not sure of but with the money you use to buy a chip and a burner you could have saved and used towards link. Sometimes link comes up in classifieds and can be had for a good price and once in awhile an ecu is included.
 
My entire problem is saving money. Always been super bad at that
 
So if I get a chip burner then I could essentially copy the files off his chip and load them on to ecmlinks flash able chip that comes with the cable and CD....right?

No. The ecmlink chip is not flashable in the same sense that a burned chip is. The chip for ecmlink contains everything needed for ecmlink to function, and only certain parameters on it are "flashed" when you make adjustments in link.
 
If you already had an ECU with DSMLink V3 on it, then why in gods name would you need to pay someone for a remote tune and another burned chip. Then after getting both systems, why would you want to copy the locked in tune just to copy it onto the DSMLink chip when you could have just used the DSMLink software to tune the car in the first place? The logic in this post is so ass backwards IDK what to say LOL, saving money is great and all but you are looking at this the wrong way.

A) Get the remote tune and enjoy your car how it is. If you think you're going to change things in the future, save the parts until you have all of them and install all at once so you can get another chip burned and again, leave it alone and enjoy.

B) Get DSMLink and tune your car whenever you want. Install a new part every day if you want and tweak your settings to match to optimize performance. Change tunes in the winter and summer, or for new fuel, etc.

Choose one and stick with it. If you are proficient with computers and want to burn your own chips then go for it, but the whole point of the DSMLink software and PROPRIETARY cable is to use them together. You cant use their specific cable which has a special chip in it to only be used with LICENSED serials of their software which is stored on the chip. If you were to burn over someone else's tune onto the link chip, the cable would most likely not be able to be used again. Silly way to try and save a few bucks!
 
Best advice i can give you, is stop everything your doing/thinking about. Get the notion of modding your car out of your head. YOU ARE NOT READY! Read and learn what every part is called, what it does, and where it goes. When you think you've read enough, go back and read 100x more. After you've gained sufficient knowledge of the platform, then start thinking about your mod path. As it stands now, i see your dsm going up for sale or to the grave. None of us want that, thats why everyone is being so hard on you.
 
I think the op needs to realize that buying tuning software won't help if you don't have a good stage 0 setup first, so make sure all maintenance is out of the way before doing anything...sure you can order any tuning software in the world, but if your car falls apart the day it arrives at your door, will you have the money to have it fixed?
short answer is no.
recheck that all maintenance is out of the way this CAN'T BE IGNORED and likely won't be repeated.

Dsmtuners stage -0 mod: how to save money
step 1: Buy a money box.
step 2: Hide money box out of sight.
step 3: Put a set amount of money in it every month at least $100 over the course of a month.
step 4: once you have the amount needed for mods buy them nothing more or less
step 5: repeat process for the next mods.
 
Wow guys im very disappointed in all of you. If any of you are ASE certified? I am and if your not and you talk the talk then I'm here to check you! Only an experienced tech can hook up what you need done! My advice because I went back to the past from my 90 dsm fwd eclipse to an 88 Starion and from what I see going on here is speculation and he said she what! Listen first research second then act! Your cars assuming we are still friends need is if your stock and only wanna play around buy an SAFC/ VPC controller piggy back your computers there really reliable and then enjoy your car guys but if your serious about it then I'm with YODA on this one back off and rethink. A 25g oversized valves and some tuning will get you noticed but you need suspension to stick it to the man![DOUBLEPOST=1412826215][/DOUBLEPOST]Help each other do put yourselves down or threaten people like you know it all even if you got an ASE respect!
 
Wow guys im very disappointed in all of you. If any of you are ASE certified? I am and if your not and you talk the talk then I'm here to check you! Only an experienced tech can hook up what you need done! My advice because I went back to the past from my 90 dsm fwd eclipse to an 88 Starion and from what I see going on here is speculation and he said she what! Listen first research second then act! Your cars assuming we are still friends need is if your stock and only wanna play around buy an SAFC/ VPC controller piggy back your computers there really reliable and then enjoy your car guys but if your serious about it then I'm with YODA on this one back off and rethink. A 25g oversized valves and some tuning will get you noticed but you need suspension to stick it to the man![DOUBLEPOST=1412826215][/DOUBLEPOST]Help each other do put yourselves down or threaten people like you know it all even if you got an ASE respect!

What are you trying to get at with the ase certification thing? Who are you, and why are you disappointed in people?
 
Have to give the OP a break and cut him some slack.
He joined in May of this year and already have over 200 posts.
Kinda shows that he's, at least, wanting to know stuff first hand from us instead of doing the searches that could easily lead him astray.

But still, it's up to him if he wants to listen to us or not though.

-DSM
 
Wow guys im very disappointed in all of you. If any of you are ASE certified? I am and if your not and you talk the talk then I'm here to check you! Only an experienced tech can hook up what you need done! My advice because I went back to the past from my 90 dsm fwd eclipse to an 88 Starion and from what I see going on here is speculation and he said she what! Listen first research second then act! Your cars assuming we are still friends need is if your stock and only wanna play around buy an SAFC/ VPC controller piggy back your computers there really reliable and then enjoy your car guys but if your serious about it then I'm with YODA on this one back off and rethink. A 25g oversized valves and some tuning will get you noticed but you need suspension to stick it to the man!
--- Double Post Merged, Today at 9:43 PM ---
Help each other do put yourselves down or threaten people like you know it all even if you got an ASE respect!

...What's happening?
 
Whoa whoa, what does anything about this posting have to do with being ASE certified? I am not ASE certified and I rebuilt my 4g63 and I'm pretty dang proud of that. I went from doing basic maintenance all the way to a full overhaul of everything on my dsm, not knowing a whole lot about turbocharged engines. I think having that certification is a great thing to have, but I bet half of the ASE mechanics in my area wouldn't know where to start on dsm maintenance.
I work part time at AutoZone, mainly for the discount, and I get people in all the time saying that their ASE CERTIFIED mechanic sent them into AutoZone to get a CEL code pulled, on their 91 Honda civic. Any ASE mechanic should know that's a OBD1 system and I can't do anything about that CEL. Its awesome that you have that, but that Dosent mean it gives you the right to come on this forum and "check" people. I'm not here to "check " anyone. I'm here to learn and contribute to the dsm community. I'm not sure you want to get on the bad side of any of the forum wiseman, so let's just cool it off and try to help eachother out.
 
but I bet half of the ASE mechanics in my area wouldn't know where to start on dsm maintenance.

Fully agree here.

Went to a Mitsu dealership and to ask on tricks on doing timing belt replacement on a 4G63. Shop foreman called out his Mitsu mechanic...and he had the 'ASE' patch on his workshirt.

This "ASE" mechanic was then giving me instructions, tips and tricks on how to do it on a 420A motor.

I immediately left.

Got on the vfaq site, printed out the important junk, and with OEM parts from Mitsu, did my own belts .. and that was six years ago.

That was bad. - DSM
 
Wow guys im very disappointed in all of you. If any of you are ASE certified? I am and if your not and you talk the talk then I'm here to check you! Only an experienced tech can hook up what you need done! My advice because I went back to the past from my 90 dsm fwd eclipse to an 88 Starion and from what I see going on here is speculation and he said she what! Listen first research second then act! Your cars assuming we are still friends need is if your stock and only wanna play around buy an SAFC/ VPC controller piggy back your computers there really reliable and then enjoy your car guys but if your serious about it then I'm with YODA on this one back off and rethink. A 25g oversized valves and some tuning will get you noticed but you need suspension to stick it to the man![DOUBLEPOST=1412826215][/DOUBLEPOST]Help each other do put yourselves down or threaten people like you know it all even if you got an ASE respect!

W.T.F. MATE!?!? I sure hope you wrench better than you write. The only thing an ASE cert proves is that you paid $69 to prove that you can do the same work a monkey that went shopping at Sears can and trying to use it as an argument or status makes me question whether or not that testing center looked at someone else's results when they let you pass. To suggest that "ONLY an experienced tech can hook up what he needs done" on a website overflowing with independent amateur enthusiasts who regularly build cars with over 300hp per liter with ZERO PRIOR EXPERIENCE shows how dumb you are. The rest of your garbage advice like using an outdated SAFC/VPC from ancient times that can easily loose settings, doesn't allow for timing adjustments, and in the case of the SAFC Neo actually came programmed incorrectly and will blow up your engine continues to show that you have no clue what you're talking about. I feel bad for all of the real mechanics on here that you are making a horrible example of but do us a favor and tell us what shop you work at so we can steer clear!

Have to give the OP a break and cut him some slack.
He joined in May of this year and already have over 200 posts.
Kinda shows that he's, at least, wanting to know stuff first hand from us instead of doing the searches that could easily lead him astray.
-DSM

243 posts in 6 months shows that he doesn't listen to sh!t, just posts and posts and posts nonsense without doing the slightest bit of research. Just glance at his posting history and see what threads you find. The same questions over and over. New questions without solving old ones. I promise you that every single scenario has been covered on this website and that searching and reading will unlock the key to your every query. Everyone is entitled to ask questions but we respectfully request that they try find the answers first and then post when they are stuck. Starting new threads each time his last one dies out because he won't do what people tell him is not the proper way to go about things and is why there are people being short with him.

If he has the ability to burn chips as he claims then he shouldn't be asking all of these other questions repeatedly he should be building the car. He is five steps ahead of himself and won't start at step zero as listed above and just get the car built and running. He wants us to spoon feed him scenarios that he isn't even ready for and won't try to do what he's told because he doesn't really even need to yet.

Here is a little excerpt from a thread of his where he drove his dumb car around for months without the transmission hooked up and with basically no fluid after asking for three pages why things were wrong and why they just wouldnt work. People keep trying to help him when he won't even help himself and is an asshole about it. I'm done in this thread, but for the guy that voted to temporarily suspend this kid's posting privileges, I'M ALL FOR IT!

No. I drained it and nothing came out.
--- Double Post Merged, Sep 27, 2014 ---
For the love of f***s sake. I bought the car. Drove it for months. Had clutch trouble and third was grinding. I removed the f***ing plug in my god damn garage and nothing what so ever seeped for the f***ing drain hole then I removed the wheels, undid the axles, the CV halfshafts, and took the damn transmission to a shop. Why did I need to say this three times. This is as f***ing descriptive as I'm getting. Tired and I work tonight.
 
Fullthrottle: Completely kills it in one post. Bingo. OP, read that over and over, and 1 more time for good measure.
 
No. The ecmlink chip is not flashable in the same sense that a burned chip is. The chip for ecmlink contains everything needed for ecmlink to function, and only certain parameters on it are "flashed" when you make adjustments in link.


This was exactly what I wanted to know. I've read ecmtuning site. I've read my1gdsmtuning.com and to me it seemed practically almost the same method. All I know about chips is they hold memory like usbs. At least one person here answered my question perfectly.[DOUBLEPOST=1412860846][/DOUBLEPOST]
If you buy one of his chips you wont be able to change anything on it with a cable. In order to do that, you need ecmlink software, cable, and the chip in you ecu. Those chips he burns for what you have/want and you put it in your socket and run it. If you change something or want something changed then you have to send your chip back and tell him so he can make the changes and send it back. Does that help you?

I wasn't sure if cable would work, but knew about sending in chip. Thank you[DOUBLEPOST=1412860939][/DOUBLEPOST]
If you already had an ECU with DSMLink V3 on it, then why in gods name would you need to pay someone for a remote tune and another burned chip. Then after getting both systems, why would you want to copy the locked in tune just to copy it onto the DSMLink chip when you could have just used the DSMLink software to tune the car in the first place? The logic in this post is so ass backwards IDK what to say LOL, saving money is great and all but you are looking at this the wrong way.

A) Get the remote tune and enjoy your car how it is. If you think you're going to change things in the future, save the parts until you have all of them and install all at once so you can get another chip burned and again, leave it alone and enjoy.

B) Get DSMLink and tune your car whenever you want. Install a new part every day if you want and tweak your settings to match to optimize performance. Change tunes in the winter and summer, or for new fuel, etc.

Choose one and stick with it. If you are proficient with computers and want to burn your own chips then go for it, but the whole point of the DSMLink software and PROPRIETARY cable is to use them together. You cant use their specific cable which has a special chip in it to only be used with LICENSED serials of their software which is stored on the chip. If you were to burn over someone else's tune onto the link chip, the cable would most likely not be able to be used again. Silly way to try and save a few bucks!

You some how got the wrong idea. I do not have anything tuning wise other than a logger.[DOUBLEPOST=1412861083][/DOUBLEPOST]
But he's read EVERYTHING about ecm and socketing our boards though LOL

I practically do know everything that was written on their site. Their site doesn't say that you can copy old cup information over to theirs. Does it? Wasn't sure if you were sarcastic.[DOUBLEPOST=1412861470][/DOUBLEPOST]
I think the op needs to realize that buying tuning software won't help if you don't have a good stage 0 setup first, so make sure all maintenance is out of the way before doing anything...sure you can order any tuning software in the world, but if your car falls apart the day it arrives at your door, will you have the money to have it fixed?
short answer is no.
recheck that all maintenance is out of the way this CAN'T BE IGNORED and likely won't be repeated.

Dsmtuners stage -0 mod: how to save money
step 1: Buy a money box.
step 2: Hide money box out of sight.
step 3: Put a set amount of money in it every month at least $100 over the course of a month.
step 4: once you have the amount needed for mods buy them nothing more or less
step 5: repeat process for the next mods.

About halfway down is everything in the upgrade plan part 1 that I've done.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/im-stuck-between-two-amazing-choices.486005/#post-153469107

[/DOUBLEPOST]
Have to give the OP a break and cut him some slack.
He joined in May of this year and already have over 200 posts.
Kinda shows that he's, at least, wanting to know stuff first hand from us instead of doing the searches that could easily lead him astray.

But still, it's up to him if he wants to listen to us or not though.

-DSM

You have no idea how useless 75% of researching has been. At least with people hating me my threads get attention then information comes out. This I tried researching but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for.
 
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