TURBO TECH NEEDED FOR TD05H, options???

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

Hey guys,

I have a 1990 eagle talon 4G63 TSi AWD W5M33 turbo standard with TD05H A3 4G turbo(49178-01 41 0 on the compressor 12 blades, housing and 78-11020 on the turbine housing.

I just pulled the turbo today, went good but found a stress fracture on the exhaust manifold and the turbine housing. Need to replace them and the exhaust.

1. What's a good turbo combo that will work well for me? And where can I get it?

What I'm planning-

I'm rebuilding the hole car, engine, W5M33 trans, and fuel system, so the sky is the limit. Just kinda seeing what I got and designing right now.

Going to have 1000 cc injectors, 455 LPH pump, bigger intercooler, BOV, dual honey comb valve springs, boost controller, stage 3 evo trans upgrades, LSD rear, LSD front, welded centre diff... So I'm aiming for a street car, crank the boost up and can handle it's own on the strip, a solid 500 HP+

So this is what I need help with,

I need a exhaust manifold that will match up to a new turbine housing, and turbine wheel which will run a 25G 3" inlet compressor wheel.

For the turbine housing and wheel can I just phone up Mitsubishi and get a new one, think it's a little old for them to still be stocking it. Or order up some EVO 5 or newer turbo turbine wheel (titanium) that will fit in my TD05H, since I have to get a new turbine housing anyway.

I was doing some research and seen that the Lancer Evo 1 TD05H (Inducer = 48.3, Exducer = 68mm, nozzle cm2 = 7) but want to use a titanium turbine wheel form the EVO 5 TD05HRA from the RS, has the same size inducer 48.3 and Exducer 68mm but nad a nozzle cm2 = 10.5,

2. Would that work? Can I make that work with a new turbine housing, or is the shaft different?

3. Basically I need info and help with, want a titanium turbine from EVO or other? turbine housing, stock or other? with straight line or similar exhaust manifold and a 3" stainless exhaust piping. I haven't bought any of these items yet so all option are open.


There is no way I'm just putting the stock back in, it broke for a reason, want 500 hp +, any ideas or contacts are much appreciated, thanks, will open it up tomorrow to measure the wheels, housings and shaft.

Almost forgot, what the heck do I have here 16G?

 

[lasthope05]

14b, 16g, 18g, 20g td05 are all the same wheel. Do you still not understand. Dont try to reinvent the wheel with some frankenstien turbo. I still dont understand why you just dont buy a proven turbo instead of trying to build something you clearly have no understanding of and wasting money building a turbo that is so horribly mismatched/ineffecient.

 

[BurrowZ]

Ya I'd love a 6266, but can't get one for under $1000. Thats on the wish list for later after I change to Manley pistons and balance them on a little weed scale, think they're 1 gram out . Was thinking of the bosch 1000cc injectors or 1250 cc, one step at a time.

You are literally too stupid to realize when someone's trolling you.

I realize I can't just fluff post to flame you so I'm going to have to try to add to this thread. Now, if I'm really going to attempt to do that, here:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/vendor-announcements/472154-fp-holiday-sale-2013-a.html

Right now you can get an FP Red which has been to 500whp for under $1000. And it's a direct bolt-on so even somebody who's owned their car for 8 years shouldn't have to pay a shop to do it!

You don't need a ridiculously huge fuel pump. A single 255HP Walbro rewired and some 1600cc injectors with an AFPR will be more than enough to net you that 500whp.

You remind me of a guy I once knew. He once hammered a nail into a piece of wood and then claimed he was ready to build a house.

 

[WES_393]

Good luck finding legit Mitsubishi parts for an Evo 6.5 RS TME turbo. FP sells that bad boy for $3,750. And your looking to build one for under $1k?

 

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

Really dude, I'm truly hurt Z Haha, the same wheel *busts a gut

Ha it's gonna be sick WES, ya prob 2G in man hours, its my 3rd day with the turbo. Got my dremel all raring to go

This is where I'm at with the turbo. I included a industrial touch screen cpu with ethernet that I built, had to use a little more than a nail to build that foo. Oh and they run at $500,000 a piece if you want one of those.

RESPECT!

 

[Dsmkauai]

What does that have to do with a blown 14b?? And what does the price of some board your building for a company have to do with you bro? Did you spend 500k on it, and if so why is getting a new turbo so hard for you? Instead of destroying the car trying to macgyver parts together, why not do what actually works and listen to those that really know? I mean you still haven't answered about what tuning software you plan to use or are using besides saying ECM . Dude all our cars have ECM's/ecu's if they didn't they wouldn't run at all. Maybe you should try being alittle more humble and listen to those trying to help you, if you keep this up no ones going to reply or care what your doing! Don't be like those lame Canadians on war of the wheels who spent like 10k on a 1g dsm to make it not even a second faster in the 1/4 mile !! Your better than that bro!!

 

[serviceguy]

Wow, you removed the turbo from your car and screwed an A&B PLC to a panel (from the look of it at least that is what it looks like, hard to tell since you appear to be incapable of taking a proper picture). That's impressive. How you would relate the two things is anybody's guess. Nevertheless entertaining. Keep at it, looking forward to your 9 secs runs.

 

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

like I give a shit what your dumb ass thinks, what did you suck daddy off to get your car, I do all my shite.

I weld mig and stick, electrician, mechanic and a carpenter, and I'm your worst nightmare on the track DEAL WITH IT!

I built a mustang and then beat the mustang shop on the track, ya they didn't get me parts anymore hahahahahahahahahahaha ah ha, was good racin

 

[serviceguy]

Since you are starting these idiotic threads I would say you do care. If you can do all those things more power to you, I guess you have more comprehension skills than the ones you've been showing so far. With regard to your manners, way to go champ!

 

[Dsmkauai]

Haha!! You don't even have a turbo in your car and its a little 14b what's that really going to do with no mods and only a ECM to tune with ! Get real guy, your not helping your case any dude. And most of us can do everything you can and in some cases (mine) way more, so stop trying the my dicks bigger than yours game dude no body gives a crap honestly!!

 

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

if ya just gonna trash talk get the f off my thread and start your own because nobody cares what your little pecker looks like

 

[AwD4g63TsI]

like I give a shit what your dumb ass thinks, what did you suck daddy off to get your car, I do all my shite.

Maintenance, yes I paid the dealership to do a head gasket

From your multiple contradicting posts, it is obvious that you do not, in fact, do your own work.

It's also obvious that you lack the knowledge to not take your car to a place that will rape you like a dealership, thus, you got raped at a dealership.

I'm your worst nightmare on the track

If by this statement you mean you are the guy at the track who is constantly jaw-jabbering about how his car is all this and all that, runs a 16 sec 1/4, tells you he missed 2nd gear(it's straight down from first), comes and tries to hang next to my car after your 4th 16 sec run, etc, etc.....then you sir definitely are my worst nightmare on the track.

 

[Dsmkauai]

^^ haha nice!! Lmao

 

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

I paid the dealership because it was January and in Canada that means it's -40 degrees out, kind of hard to keep the head at a .0002 tolerance don't ya think.

Anyways, my baby's naked , this is why I don't like the inconel steel, carbon deposits break off little chunks of the blades, which makes it unbalanced, very bad all around. Did you know carbon (fibre) is 5 times stronger than steel. Put whatever expensive crap you want in your car but I'm going with titanium.

The intake looks good

 

[dj1263]

Bro I'm in Kelowna ...was looking forward to seeing someone close by with a DSM similar to mine...

May1989TalonTSiAWDst - Thank you for your posts, I'm new and am learning from seeing what you plan to do with your turbo....very interesting

But I'm telling you after reading everything, the guys here were just trying to help you out. So what of you didn't get a helpful response, let them look like the f&^ker...move on. When you react you stand out..

Looking forward to your build...

 

[lasthope05]

I paid the dealership because it was January and in Canada that means it's -40 degrees out, kind of hard to keep the head at a .0002 tolerance don't ya think.

Anyways, my baby's naked , this is why I don't like the inconel steel, carbon deposits break off little chunks of the blades, which makes it unbalanced, very bad all around. Did you know carbon (fibre) is 5 times stronger than steel. Put whatever expensive crap you want in your car but I'm going with titanium.

The intake looks good

You're a complete joke. Carbon did that to your turbine wheel? Did you ever thing about running lean/high egts, excessive antilag, ingesting debris..etc.

You're a lost cause. Stop acting like you know what you are taking about and listen.

 

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

thanks DJ, my cousin lives in Kelowna, suppose to go visit him this spring, summer, maybe when I get er done stop by for a beer.

Lastplace, your running a 1990 talon too, over 23 years old is going to have carbon build up bud, nice pic by the way, probably don't even have a talon, sorry dj couldn't help it

It's about 58mm exducer, 43mm inducer, about 26mm high compressor, a 33mm high will fit since there is lots of thread, barely, need a bigger plate that it sits on too, titanium titanium titanium titanium titanium ooo

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

You'll be a "nightmare" on the track alright. Oil-downs are a pain in the ass.

500hp using a 25G compressor, mated to a TD05x turbine shaft assembly using stock thrust hardware, with some custom "titanium ball bearings being put into an MHI journal bearing housing...

Lets humor this retarded idea some and pretend you cobble it together. First, before it eats it's self.. It will surge like a motherf*cker with that tiny exhaust wheel. Second, you will never be able to get more mass flow from that dinosaur 25G comp. wheel than what the comically mismatched turbine can accommodate.

If you were half as clever as you think you are, some cursory research would have told you this and saved us all these insipid posts scattered in all your half-baked threads.

It's obvious you know f*ck-all about anything beyond the trade you allegedly practice and every single person reading this can see.

There's no "haters," no naysayers, or any other category of rationalized enemies.

Just people who can smell what you're stepping in and bringing it to your attention. If you want people to take you seriously and help.. you need to start being honest with us and yourself. Otherwise you are just burning bridges with an extremely helpful and informative community.

Before you reply, think about that for a while. If you come clean, there are many, myself included, that would happily point you in the right direction. Starting with the upgrade paths and VFAQ.

 

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

What turbo are you running land?

Here check this out, from our own guys 780 whp with TD05, don't even say its not worth rebuilding, your running 400 hp, probably a 16g

Just because you haven't done it doesn't mean it can't be done, and that's no joke

 

[WES_393]

Titanium sure does make a cheap, long lasting alternative to that Inconel junk we've all been using for decades. (sarcasm)

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What turbo are you running land?

Landspeed is running an HX52. His car could drag yours sideways by a chain and still run faster times than you and your space age "780whp" TDO5H.

Seriously, if your just going to cry every time someone calls your ridiculous idea... ridiculous, then may I direct your attention to the "X" at the top corner of your web browser.

 

[Dsmkauai]

^^ Hmm from his sig right under his post it says hx52! Can you spell holset ftw!!

 

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

Truth is all the guys making big power build their own turbos, I can always switch out the wheels for different combos if I don't like it, and Wes stop dropping bolts in your engine

Well since my turbo is out of my car he would have to pull it dumb ass

 

[99ECLIPSEGSXDSM]

Can we please close this. The fact that the OP can't even fallow the rules to use proper grammar and that this is going nowhere should be enough, let a lone the misinformation that he is spreading and won't take advice on what he should do.

Truth is all the guys making big power build their own turbos, I can always switch out the wheels for different combos if I don't like it, and Wes stop dropping bolts in your engine

yeah because nobody uses forced performance...

 

[May1989TalonTSiAWDst]

I've had just about enough of this braking off, I'll be at the Calgary Alberta 1/4 mile track this summer, put up or shut the #### up, loser buys beer.

Till then I'll be tuning my car on the abandon runway beside my house

 

[Dsmkauai]

Ya everyone I'll show you! I'm going to tune the crap out of my car!!! Lmao with my ECM and cyborg 14b25g-titanium-nightmare turbo !

 

[99ECLIPSEGSXDSM]

I've had just about enough of this braking off, I'll be at the Calgary Alberta 1/4 mile track this summer, put up or shut the #### up, loser buys beer.

Till then I'll be tuning my car on the abandon runway beside my house

I dont feel like making the 2,110 mile drive to watch you fail. If you're gonna be so fast and beat everyone with a tdo5h turbine show up to the shootout and run with the real big boys. I'll even line up next to you and take that free beer if you'd like