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The 14b Drag Race Discussion Thread

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SO FVck the Haters. they are all running around swinging off the balls of others who have done the same exact thing. Not me, I dont follow footsteps I LEAD my own path and make my own path. SO first off I would like to thank a couple of my sponsors! Drew Jones at RCI and Red Jack Racing. Precision PSI, Stroud, SW Racecars and Kirkey Racing. Shyts getting real in here. We are talking a perfectly setup 1g ready to rip that 14b to shreds. In a 2000 LB car! Let the flaming begin blah blah blah. But I am taking my 1g 14b into the 10's and making a record NOBODY with an AWD will break for a very long time. Anyways here are some updates on the car that has been laughed at for the past few months.


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Here's what one of our fellow 14b contenders(well, maybe) has to say. Wonder who he's referring to? Hmmm...

His 'sponsors' should be proud...

Thoughts ?

Pretty sure it was not the car that everyone was laughing at, it was the attitude.. ;)

Anyone who uses the word "haters" in a non-ironic fashion has 50 IQ points deducted automatically in my perception.
 
WEIGHT

It used to be an integral part to help 60' times but as stiff as my car is with the JIC's, I don't think it's necessary.

Now, if in fact 60' times were to suffer, I'd obviously toss it back on. It's a super heavy, solid bar.
Almost 30 lbs. if I remember correctly.

I don't run any sway bars in either of my awd auto cars, daily driver included. The oem rear swaybar & end links are 10.8lb on my scale, the front is 9.6lb

I use the front swaybar mount on the control arms for a handy spot to attach the limit straps.
 
I'll never understand why people will do that. Why call out the record to that extent with an empty shell and zero attempts? I can see speculating this or that for discussions sake, but come on man.
 
I don't run any sway bars in either of my awd auto cars, daily driver included. The oem rear swaybar & end links are 10.8lb on my scale, the front is 9.6lb

I use the front swaybar mount on the control arms for a handy spot to attach the limit straps.

Good to know...
 
So let me get this straight. He was being "hated on" for planning a record attempt with a heavy "street" car. He was told by fellow 14bers that weight was key and he disagreed. So to show he was a leader he put on his big boy pants and started cutting metal to drop weight and prove he wasn't a follower, by following the advise he got here?

Its not all about the weight......

I would put maybe 20% on weight.

I'm trying to get the point across that it is in fact not JUST about weight like everyone seems to think.
 
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I don't run any sway bars in either of my awd auto cars, daily driver included. The oem rear swaybar & end links are 10.8lb on my scale, the front is 9.6lb

I use the front swaybar mount on the control arms for a handy spot to attach the limit straps.

I've always just left that extra weight in the rear for the added traction. Funny, I'm using the front seat mount for my limiting straps to. That next on my "to do list"
 
Tell Nathan what he just won, Johnny! That's what I get out of it.
 
Yup, a guy that insisted power/weight in a turbo limited category was "maybe 20%" of the equation is calling everyone haters.. and then taking their advice.

"Shyts getting real," indeed
 
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I'll never understand why people will do that. Why call out the record to that extent with an empty shell and zero attempts? I can see speculating this or that for discussions sake, but come on man.

That's the easy thing to do...
 
I don't get it, as for paving his own path, we have all discussed high compression, aluminum rod motors like he's planning, we've talked alternative fuels, forward facing manifolds....on and on etc. Most of came to the conclusion that they would be interesting to try, but none of us have the funds like that to throw at a "14b record" that is only meaningful to a select few anyways. If he has the funds to do that more power to him, but don't come in here and act like it was your idea and that you know it all and dismiss the people who are currently the fastest as unintelligent. But, thanks for finally realizing we were right, power to weight is the key.

Who has a heater I'm going to go work on my car!
 
I don't get it, as for paving his own path, we have all discussed high compression, aluminum rod motors like he's planning, we've talked alternative fuels, forward facing manifolds....on and on etc. Most of came to the conclusion that they would be interesting to try, but none of us have the funds like that to throw at a "14b record" that is only meaningful to a select few anyways. If he has the funds to do that more power to him, but don't come in here and act like it was your idea and that you know it all and dismiss the people who are currently the fastest as unintelligent. But, thanks for finally realizing we were right, power to weight is the key.

Who has a heater I'm going to go work on my car!

No need to worry. Actions speak louder than words and his cars far from running. He still has to get it running and get it to the track to at least match what we have ran. By that time we will have had more trips to the track and better results for him to catch up on. Well that's if one of us doesn't break the record by then.

I don't know what it's like there, but it's been in the teens here. Hard to warm up a 30x30 shop that's not insulated. Might need to add another 125k btu heater.
 
I haven't posted much in this thread, but I'm wondering if any of you AWD guys have considered temporarily making your car RWD to brake the 14b record? I would assume (since power is lower, around 300whp) 2 slicks on the back of the car would easily hold the power... (just my 2 cents, hopefully I don't come off as a moron, like some other people in this thread) :D
 
Thought i would post up a little update on my 1G:

Have not set any records with the 14b but am driving it to school, grocery store, post office.. for what that's worth.. hehe

The next mod is going to be a Radio LOL even though the exhasut provides enough good tunes for my liking, especially at a stop light.

Big props to ALL the 14b guys having fun out there!!
 
I haven't posted much in this thread, but I'm wondering if any of you AWD guys have considered temporarily making your car RWD to brake the 14b record? I would assume (since power is lower, around 300whp) 2 slicks on the back of the car would easily hold the power... (just my 2 cents, hopefully I don't come off as a moron, like some other people in this thread) :D

It's actually a pretty cool idea. A friend of mine ran around RWD for a while just for fun. I know to convert isn't too big of a deal, but I'm not certain what it does with the power distribution. In the end, I think most here want to work with the two platforms provided by DSM.

Thought i would post up a little update on my 1G:

Have not set any records with the 14b but am driving it to school, grocery store, post office.. for what that's worth.. hehe

The next mod is going to be a Radio LOL even though the exhasut provides enough good tunes for my liking, especially at a stop light.

Big props to ALL the 14b guys having fun out there!!

How's it goin? Hey, at least you're enjoying your car alot more than many of us here can!
 
In that case how about a 4G swapped colt or older rwd galant with a D50 trans with the starion gears. Then its still manual, rwd and a lot of fun. Or even a mighty max 4-linked. Thats how id do it.

It is to bad some of us can only enjoy our cars during the race season at the track. But it sure does give me something to look forward to now.
 
In that case how about a 4G swapped colt or older rwd galant with a D50 trans with the starion gears. Then its still manual, rwd and a lot of fun. Or even a mighty max 4-linked. Thats how id do it.

It is to bad some of us can only enjoy our cars during the race season at the track. But it sure does give me something to look forward to now.

As much as I appreciate all the possibilities of swapping, I like the T/E/L cars the most. If I were to entertain anything though, it'd probably be a Colt/Mirage.

The winter break definitely gets you pumped for the next season, especially if you actually get out in your car....ROFL
 
I don't think I could do the swap if it wasn't another Mitsu product using mostly Mitsu parts. It feels kinda like cheating.

Fair enough, I agree. The other thing for me is no AT. If there was a solid option for a manual trans, I'd opt for a Starquest...
 
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