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Posted by OneFastEclipse, Sep 22, 2005
Turbo System Tech - 4G63 turbos, Intercooling, Boost Control, Wastegates, etc.
was it tested with the bumber on?
They may be seeing 100F outlet temps, but for an entire 1/4 mile pass? Not likely. I'm usually fine until around 3rd gear, then the IC really heat soaks and the temps shoot up fast. It's not linear at all, it's very exponential.
They probably tested it by making a one-gear pull on the street and seeing where the temps hit. Not to say it won't improve performance over stock, but I doubt you'd see the temps they claim through a full pass.
Very curious data results when using Jeff Lucious's calculator . You get both a 50-trim that is 63% efficient at 20psi (22psi at the compressor outlet) and a 94% Efficient SMIC. A 50-trim is 76% Efficient well into the late 20s.. and the best Bar-Plate cores are only 85% efficient.
I smell something stinky at Bullseye
I'm not bashing this vendor in any way, Being I had purchased a turbo off of them, For my previous car. I just honestly think that is an outragous price..
Many of us have been for months.
I'm running their 50-trim and I have SBR's FMIC (24x12x3.5) and I don't see cooling that good. With an ambient of 85*, I'm seeing 105-110* air temps at the TB. And I know I have more surface area than any SMIC that I've ever seen.....
I can't tell you how many SMIC core we have sold over the past couple of years. Lots of people just want something to take advantage of their 16g or something similarly sized. Now i personally do not recommend running 20psi on a 50trim with this but if you have a big16 or something and want something simple and affordable this is a great value.
Here are a couple more pics
Dejon Tool SMIC - 9.5" Wide, 9" High, 4" Thick, 2.25" inlet, 2.5" outlet, Total Volume=342
ADFX SMIC - 8" Wide, 9" High, 4.5" Thick, 2.5" inlet/outlet, Total Volume=324
Bullseye SMIC - 8.5" Wide, 8" Tall, 4" Thick, 2.5" inlet/outlet, Total Volume=272
HRC SMIC - 10" Wide, Unknown height, 4.5" Thick, 2.25" inlet/outlet, Total Volume=270
All the cores mentioned above are Bar and Plate cores. It looks as if the Bullseye intercooler happens to be one of the smaller of the SMIC's available. The Dejon Tool SMIC has been out now for quite some time, why haven't people seen this kind of performance on those cores? Bullseye doing something special that I am not seeing?
So that is automatically better?
I have seen reviews of the Supra SMIC that show it outperforming some FMICs.
But if you're into bling factor, I guess there's no beating an FMIC.
We aren't bashing the product, just the bullshit claims of cooling capability.
The people that are actualy looking to go that "crazy" and still trying to keep the stock look (mostliklely for street racing) would most likely be more into a liquid-to-air intercooler before this set-up IMHO. I am not bashing on this product let alone have I owen it, to be able to. I know there had to be some R+D behind this SMIC. And that is what attach some extra money on to new products onto the market. I just think the polished fact could have been left out to try to conserve on the price.
Yea, but so is a supra sidemount ... that's the point. One would be stupid to spend all this money on a smic like that when the supra sidemount is readily available and a lot cheaper. If the price was closer to $299 for that "sleeper" sidemount then I think people would go for it.
FYI I have one of the last ADFX intercoolers and it is only 8.5"x8"x4" They must have changed the size and one point in time.