My 420a build

[safirenside]

So after turboing my car on a stock rebuild I blew the motor but now its time to build it right with forged internals and aftermarket parts.My plans are to have the car ready by October for nos import face off. Here is my list of parts , I might be missing a few parts I didnt list. As soon as the parts start coming in ill start updating the build.

Block

Eagle rods
JE pistions
ACL main and rod bearings
Oil filter sandwich

Cylinder head
Crower stage 3 cams
Crower valve springs and titanium retainers
SBI PT cruiser style lifters
SBI PT cruiser style rocker arms
PEP 1mm over stainless valves
AEM cam gears
ARP head studs
ARP cam tower studs
Cosmetic head gasket
Gates timing belt
OBX intake manifold
MPx 60mm throttle body
OBX fuel rail
1000cc injectors
OBX exhaust manifold

Other parts

Turbonetics 60 seris stage 5 .58ar
Turbonetics waste gate
Turnonetics blowoff valve
FMIC
MegaSquirt
Prothane motor mounts
3'' exhaust
LSD
Fuel pressure regulater
Walbro 255l
Boost controler
Oil,boost,wideband,ect gauges
Oil catch can
MSD coil pack
MSD wires
Competition stage 5 clutch
EGR block off plate

 

[necrotopsy]

replace your parts with these:

MLS head gasket
Screamin' Demon coil pack

my opinion.

and oil sandwich for what?
tap the block for a turbo oil feed.
tap the pan for oil return.

 

[2gnt]

OBX fuel rail

I don't know by personal experience how good or bad those are, but maybe you should read this.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/420a-bolt-tech/263971-obx-fuel-rail-question.html

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/420a-bolt-tech/404723-420a-fuel-rail-problem.html

 

[safirenside]

Never heard of that coil, ill have to check it out and the oil filter sandwich I already have it brand new in the box.

Thanks for the advise on the fuel rail.

 

[EDM95]

That obx fuel rail is no good, the stock fuel rail is the best.

 

[Fotowntalon]

Block

Eagle rods
Wiesco pistons
Stroker crank Who are you getting your crank from, and to what stroke?
Oil filter sandwich

Cylinder head
Crower stage 3 cams May be to aggressive for a street build, look into 2's
Crower valve springs and titanium retainers
SBI PT cruiser style lifters
SBI PT cruiser style rocker arms
PEP 1mm over stainless valves
AEM cam gears Go with fidanza's, they are just as good and much cheaper
ARP head studs
ARP cam tower studs
Cosmetic head gasket
Gates timing belt
OBX intake manifold Wouldn't use it
MPx 60mm throttle body
OBX fuel rail
1000cc injectors
OBX exhaust manifold Once again I'd stay away from OBX, especially with something like this where you need is sturdy

Other parts

Turbonetics 60 seris stage 5 .58ar
Turbonetics waste gate
Turnonetics blowoff valve
FMIC
MegaSquirt
Prothane motor mounts
3'' exhaust
LSD
Fuel pressure regulater
Walbro 255l
Boost controler
Oil,boost,wideband,ect gauges
Oil catch can
MSD coil packHated my msd, lasted about a year, love the screaming demon
MSD wires
Competition stage 5 clutch
EGR block off plate

Fixed, added some opinion

 

[safirenside]

Scratch the crank I just called and the manufacturer does not make them anymore.
I think the crower 3s will be fine the car will be more of a weekend car not a everyday driver.
Screamin demon coil it is then.
Heres a link to the exhaust manifold what do you think?
OBX Steel Turbo Manifold Header Eclipse 95-99 420A 2.0L | eBay

 

[kronus]

Scratch the crank I just called and the manufacturer does not make them anymore.
I think the crower 3s will be fine the car will be more of a weekend car not a everyday driver.
Screamin demon coil it is then.
Heres a link to the exhaust manifold what do you think?
OBX Steel Turbo Manifold Header Eclipse 95-99 420A 2.0L | eBay

Negative Ghost Rider, I'd go with a cast manifold over that any day.

 

[Fotowntalon]

Scratch the crank I just called and the manufacturer does not make them anymore.

Give me a call, I can probably hook you up

 

[safirenside]

Give me a call, I can probably hook you up

Alright thanks ill hit you up when I need it.

Negative Ghost Rider, I'd go with a cast manifold over that any day.

With a standard cast manifold my hood won't close all the way it hits the turbo and oil line that has a 90 degree on it. I may end fabricating one.

That obx fuel rail is no good, the stock fuel rail is the best.

What about a AEM fuel rail? Will that work with OBX manifold?

 

[kongo]

go with a treadstone cast mani. dont do the sandwich plate if your car is lowered and you have bad streets. lost my first motor that way.

 

[safirenside]

go with a treadstone cast mani. dont do the sandwich plate if your car is lowered and you have bad streets. lost my first motor that way.

But that only accepts a t3 housing right? The turbo I want is a t4, will the adater plate work with out clearance issues.

 

[Slo2gen]

Why are you wanting to run a T4 frame turbo? What compression are you running?

 

[necrotopsy]

get a t3/ t4 hybrid.
much better idea.

 

[safirenside]

why are you wanting to run a t4 frame turbo? What compression are you running?

8.8:1

 

[safirenside]

The motor is ready to be pulled ,ive gotten everything disconnected and out of the way as you can see from the pics below. Next weekend ill be buying a engine hoist to pull it. When the motor is out I want to strip the engine bay and re paint either black or white not sure yet. One of my cv joints fell apart after taking it out, yeah it was bad as you can see but ill be geting all new cv joints, control arms ,wheel bearings, and coil overs. Well here are a few pics ill up date when the motor is out.

 

[Slo2gen]

8.8:1

That still doesn't say why you want a T4 frame turbo. With 8.8:1 and a T4 frame turbo you will have a LOT of lag.

 

[EDM95]

What about a AEM fuel rail? Will that work with OBX manifold?[/QUOTE]

The 420a fuel rail can handle a lot of flow, I would just keep it stock. Maybe the guys on 2gnt could help you out a little more. If you want to upgrade your injectors to 450cc read this link.
2GNT.com - 4g63_450cc_Injectors_in_a_2GNT

 

[safirenside]

Well just thought id update with a few pics. I have the motor out and apart. Pistons 3&4 have cracked ringlands, rod bearings have scoring marks. Next update will be ordered parts.

 

[Fotowntalon]

Those poor pistons. Nice pics though.

 

[safirenside]

Those poor pistons. Nice pics though.

Well it was a ebay rebuild kit . Thanks

 

[safirenside]

So I've started striping the paint from my engine bay, its comming along pretty good. I'm gonna primer it gray then paint it red. I also ordered my pistions last week JE 8:5:1 should be here some time this week of next. I already have my eagle rods, when I get the pistions my block will be headed to the machine shop. Ill update with pics later.

 

[scottyhops]

looks good! i also am putting together my turbo 420a. i think i read up that the je pistons have some piston slap to them, i went with the wiesco low comp pistons. eagle rods. arp main studs. Also it looks like you were running the ic pipes from the turbo to the tb. How much psi were you running when it blew?

 

[safirenside]

looks good! i also am putting together my turbo 420a. i think i read up that the je pistons have some piston slap to them, i went with the wiesco low comp pistons. eagle rods. arp main studs. Also it looks like you were running the ic pipes from the turbo to the tb. How much psi were you running when it blew?

Yeah I've read that to but also read that wiesco break. The gauge read 12psi 3 wot and smoke everywhere think it had to do somtning with the fuel to air ratio

 

[safirenside]

Primered engine bay.