Launch Control Solenoid!!!

Posted by red1993gsallmt, Aug 10, 2011

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  1. red1993gsallmt

    red1993gsallmt Proven Member

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  2. awdwhip

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    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXhg1LJB20m4&v=Xhg1LJB20m4&gl=US

    This was a vid from 08 so its been a while. It looks very similar to the one Magnus sells. I'm interested in it too but the price is somewhat pushing me away.

    Here's a link to an RX-7 forum where they discuss the Tilton flow control valve and the Magnus launch control device.

    Who here is running Tilton Flow Control for drag racing? - RX7Club.com

    For added discussion I've also attached a thread from Talk below.

    Making a Launch aide??? - DSM Forums: Mitsubishi Eclipse, Plymouth Laser, and Eagle Talon Forum: DSMtalk.com
     
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  3. nfernotalon

    nfernotalon Proven Member

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    I know its old but has anyone tried this? Buschur doesnt sell it anymore i guess, but magnus does.
     
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  4. awdwhip

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    I don't think anyone has. Im over it though.

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  5. phunny

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    Thought I'd add to this since I just finished my Magnus Launch Control Device install. So after shipping it's a little over $300 then you need to expect around another $200 in fitting and you will have to actually cut and drill your own fittings if you plan on using the stock clutch hardline.

    This kit is so far from a plug-n-play it's really not even funny. I ended up taking it all apart and only using the valve and the solenoid. Partly because the way it come is just way to bulky to actually use in a street cars engine bay. I also decided to move the valve inside the car in the arm rest under the cup holder so the car still looks super clean. I should be able to head to the track within the next 2 weeks so I'll update this thread with some videos and thoughts. So far though this really does make a difference so hopefully the track times will reflect it.
     
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  6. turboglenn

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    Wow 275 bucks and doesn't even fit :( that's sad.. We use to use something very similar but air powered on our drag bike clutches, and i know from having the idea previousely that i could setup eiter a pneumatic release control or even a controled hydraulic unit like that on much cheaper, but to bne honest i'd ather have the pneumatic that way it isn't interfering with the fluid flow on the clutch system (but i'm a daily driver also) YOu can get hydraulic solenoids and control flow valves for about 75 bucks for the pair of them, then you just need lines and a way you choose to activate it. Hmm..anyway, enough of me LOL, i'd like to hear about the satisfaction level after you're using it a little bit

    EDIT: WOW those are the exact same flow control valves and solenoids i can buy locallyt in a pair for the above mentioend 75 bucks they are taking a lot of pride in their manufacture of those littlelines and the few AN fittings with it

    Gl
     
  7. v8s_are_slow

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    I'm just now seeing this thread. Just received mine from Magnus today and wondering how y'all are hooking it up to activate and deactivate it. I'm guessing you just run a power wire to one side and then ground the other wire to turn it on and activate it with a switch. But then how are you guys deactivating it? I'd imagine it'd be a pain to flip the switch on a hard launch when done with 1st gear.

    Other than saying which side went to the slave cylinder and which side goes to the master cylinder, there wasn't anything else with it that suggest how to hook it up. And I know zero people that have this, other than you few guys I'm guessing???
     
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    Use ecmlink switches like nitrous controls to activate it like launch control. Use one of: EGR, BCS, etc.. signal wires. Don't forget the relay.
     
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  9. Hal

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    This ^, except it's "deactivate it".

    You want it "on" when you release the clutch, then use the link controls to "deactivate" it so that it's not "on" for your down track shifts.

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    So basically, I just hook up the lines, and then I can run the wiring of the launch control device straight to the FPS wiring. Correct? I wouldn't need to make any changes to the ecu inputs? And would all of these settings be good?

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  11. Hal

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    Use a relay
     
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  12. v8s_are_slow

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    So I put whatever type relay between the launch control device and the fuel pressure solenoid to keep the voltage down I'm guessing?

    Other than that, the settings look okay??? Thanks.
     
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    Bout to finally get around to installing this in the next couple of weeks or so, so I can drop in my new engine. Anyone have a part number for a relay to use?
     
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  14. bastarddsm

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    I wouldn't waste your time with it. I tried it, and it's soo far from what really needs to happen in clutch control it is rediculous. You need a device that will let the clutch enage to a certain point. Probably about 300ft*lbs worth of holding power, for an initial hit, and then slowly release it the rest of the way, finally achievine lockup by the time wheel speed has reached engine rpm.

    Remember back in the day the fastest cars were on street discs using the old slipdump method.

    The fastest pedal clutch cars, all use a revloc type clutch, and that operates just like a slip-dump.
     
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  15. v8s_are_slow

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    Well, I already spent the cash on it so I'd be stupid not to at least try it out. Besides, last time I was at the track, I bogged all my launches. I kept letting out on the clutch pedal too fast cause I was anxious. And if this keeps me consistant, great. If it doesn't work that great for me, I can always disable it or take it out. If I don't at least try it, I'll never know.
     
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