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FWD versus AWD [Merged 2-8]

Posted by TrippleStar, Sep 16, 2002

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  1. TrippleStar

    TrippleStar Proven Member

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    Hello, kids. Here is the Official AWD or FWD? thread. All the hare-brained arguments about "rolling starts" and "top speed" and "deadly transfer cases" and "drivetrain losses" and the rest of the mis-guided "better" advice is right here.

    It's recommended you just skip reading it. You already know which you want, and why. Still, it's a place to dump it all.

    Let's start with this fine opener from 2002 (it really doesn't get much better):


    newbie to DSMs here, whats AWD and FWD. just sold my civic hatchback and got my eclipse not to long ago and im still learing the dsm101 stuff.
     

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  2. bnpimpn

    bnpimpn Proven Member

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    medicine hat,
    awd = ALL WHEEL DRIVE
    FWD = Front wheel drive
     
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  3. DSmAWdGSxTURBO

    DSmAWdGSxTURBO Proven Member

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    FWD = Front wheel drive
    RWD = Rear Wheel drive
    Awd = All wheel drive

    You civic had FWD
     
  4. what_is_dsm

    what_is_dsm Proven Member

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    Hey all. I'm new to the wonderful world of DSM and looking into buying a 91 Laser Turbo FWD. The tires are new and the stock (14b ?) turbo is brand new.
    My question to all you guru's: does it REALLY make THAAAT much difference between the FWD's and AWD's?? what if i put slicks on ??

    (btw, did i mention it's only $500 but has a salvage title, needs the driver's door replaced and the left rear quarter panel pulled)

    Thanks all.....
    LM :thumb:
     
  5. greathuskie

    greathuskie Proven Member

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    yes it makes a big difference in terms of launching

    stock AWD talons/eclipses could outlaunch mustang GT's or most likely even better, though they could not beat them in the 1/4 stock
     
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  6. Rob

    Rob Proven Member

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    In Awd You will love the Rain Never loose a race no matter what car is next to you hehehehehehe
     
  7. TSi92

    TSi92 Proven Member

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    AWD is fun because you can cut a great 60 foot ANYWHERE. I say FWD is a lot more fun to drive. It's a lot of fun fighting traction and torque steer. Mod for mod, AWD will be about .6 to a full second quicker than FWD on street tires. Now you put some slicks and a phantom grip or quaiffe lsd and an AWD will not outlaunch you that bad.

    Another thing about FWD's is that they are about 400 pounds lighter than AWD's they usually have great top end because of the weight and less drivetrain loss. Also, you don't have to worry if your center diff is gonna survive another hard launch.
     
  8. echo

    echo Proven Member

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    i love my FWD. I found out though that it takes alot of practice to launch one and not burn the tires through 3rd. i would say buy it, as long as the engine, turbo, etc... is good on it, and all it needs is body work.
     
  9. DFB

    DFB Proven Member

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    FWD is quiker, but AWD handles better and is a sno mobile in the snow...
     
  10. 90GSX

    90GSX Proven Member

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    Why do you think FWD is quicker?
     
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    10.391 @ 141.128 MPH
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  11. greathuskie

    greathuskie Proven Member

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    quicker and faster have 2 different meanings
     
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  12. DFB

    DFB Proven Member

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    Because I have had the FWD and the AWD..... They both put out nearly the same horsepower, however, with AWD the power is divided by four wheel instead of two, and the AWD weighs more...
     
  13. Hobbes =^.^=

    Hobbes =^.^= Proven Member

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    FWD good for rolls

    AWD good for drags and handling in dry, wet, snow, etc.

    If you want some good times at the track with FWD, make sure you get some LSD and some big slicks up front. Otherwise with AWD, any good tire will do :)

    Thing I like most about AWD is the handling. I feel safer in the car when i'm taking turns and in the rain and snow. Also you don't have to switch out for slicks at all. No more... if I had only slicks excuses ;)
     
  14. what_is_dsm

    what_is_dsm Proven Member

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    HHmm.... as i read these, I'm starting to wonder:
    what's more important: having FUN driving the car (FWD) or having a quicker car but no fun turns ??? :confused: :confused: :confused:

    after the agonizing sleepless nights, :)()i'm leaning towards a FWD option cuz it's about 350lbs lighter and after putting on some nice sticky tires, it will perform almost as good as an AWD on the drag strip.
    Also, I love the feeling of wasting someone on the highway rather than on a drag strip (although that's pretty nice also, LOL )
     
  15. 90GSX

    90GSX Proven Member

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    True, the FWD's power to weight ratio is higher due to its lower mass. BUT when you factor in the AWD's shorter gearing and 300% more traction AWD will be quicker, since it doesn't spend (much) time spinning tires.

    On a top speed run, given equal power/weight ratio, FWD will be "faster" since it's gears are longer, but in a 1/4 drag race AWD has the obvious advantage and is quicker.
     
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  16. svo1990mustang

    svo1990mustang Proven Member

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    I'm going to throw in my opinion here.

    AWD is the best for turning through the twisties
    FWD is fun but the more power you have the more you have to worry about tourque steer and understeer
    RWD is the best for straight line acceleration, and can be setup to take a corner well too if you can minimize oversteer.

    Just my two cents
    Darryl
     
  17. Hobbes =^.^=

    Hobbes =^.^= Proven Member

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    What do you mean no fun turns? GSX outhandles the GS-T and is so much fun in the twisties, rain and snow. GS-T shines mainly on the highway and for good gas mileage. Everything else...GSX.

    Also you can modify the GSX enough so you can outrun the GS-T :) But it takes a little bit more. But if highway if your thing, by all means go for GS-T.
     
  18. DFB

    DFB Proven Member

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    I have had a 91 Laser RS and now own a 94 GSX... The Laser would have probably had the GSX by at least 2 or 3 car lengths in 1/4 mile...These are fun road cars..
     
  19. RuBiCaNT5X

    RuBiCaNT5X Proven Member

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    I might be wrong, but FWD is only one wheel, not two correct? If it were two, the slightest slip of one wheel would turn the steering wheel when you don't want it to...
     
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  20. TSi92

    TSi92 Proven Member

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    Yes FWD have a open front diff. That's why you wanna upgrade to a phantom grip or a quaiffe lsd.
     
  21. rubbersidedown

    rubbersidedown Proven Member

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    i'm sorry but fwd is just no fun. period. i can't stand them. rear or all wheel drive is the best way to go, of course i'd prefer rear over both of the other type but hey, you can't always have what you want. :(
     
  22. biddybengbeng

    biddybengbeng Proven Member

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    i have fun with my FWD... it's a fuggin BEAST on the highway (which is where it counts for me LOL other people like different things for different reasons. go with what works for you, you're gonna be the one that ends up driving it every day!

    yes, FWD is a BIATCH to launch, no joke. i can NOT get my 60 foot under a 2.5-2.6 no matter WHAT i do, and many of my 60's are worse than that :( i'm still trapping higher than a LOT of the GSX's that are running near a full second faster than i am in the 1/4 though :D

    if i had it to do over again, i'd probably go with a FWD just because it pulls like crazy on the highway. but if i were more concerned with drag racing i'd get an AWD.
     
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    1995 Eagle Talon TSi

    14.000 @ 103.400 MPH
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  23. speed

    speed Proven Member

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    i have both, and i love my fwd for rolls, and my awd for 1/4. even though if the awd is very well moded doesent really matter.... ive seen awd smoke fwd on the highway.....
    later
     
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  24. TSi92

    TSi92 Proven Member

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    I take it that you haven't driven a high power FWD car. You seem biased towards RWD and AWD. Well, right now I have my '92 and my wife has a '97 AWD The '97 runs 12's and yes it's great at the dragstrip, but quite honestly I have more fun with my FWD.
     
  25. Saber_TF

    Saber_TF Proven Member

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    When i get the Quaife LSD installed into my tranny, we'll see if it helps with launching my FWD DSM on the track...

    Saber!...!...!
    :thumb:
     
    My DSM:
    1990 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo

    16.347 @ 91.830 MPH
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