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1G Forced Four shift box help

Posted by amsrn13, Jul 12, 2018

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  1. amsrn13

    amsrn13 Proven Member

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    So ive finally got to the part were im installing the shift box. There is a Ton of wiring..... what exactly am I connecting to. Solinoid “a” b.... etc. there is a 12 pin connector on the trans and 3 3 pin connectors and 1 1 pin?
     

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    My DSM:
    1992 Eagle Talon TSi

    Street Build

    645 whp   498 lb/ft
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  2. ec17pse

    ec17pse Freelancer

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    Damn thats alot of wiring. I think it would be alot easier if the company made a harness adaptor myself! For an extra 200 i think its better then wiring for hours on end and then zero chance of a mistake!

    This seems a more advanced version then road surge's,
     
    My DSM:
    1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST

    Road Race Build

    175 whp   180.1 lb/ft
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  3. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    Here is a rundown of the wires I am using and where they either gather input, give output or the power and ground for powering up the SmartShift box.
    Without the factory wiring for a auto trans, you will have to run these wires direct from or to the respective devices.
    The "reed switch" picture is where the VSS signal comes from but is built into the auto wiring harness. The signal is still there on a manual car but you will have to find it on the back of the instrument cluster as is the tach signal, which is labeled on the pcb board on the back of the instrument cluster.
    I show the solenoid connector to be a 4 pin connector. I spent well over an hour digging thru the FSM for the info you are needing and think I got you all the connections you need.
    Remember, this unit controls ANY transmission with up to 4 solenoids (6 now, I think), so it isn't DSM specific.
    When wired correctly, this unit runs my 92 Talon GREAT.
    Marty

    Edit. I need to add that the blue wire on the SmartShift box will go to terminal 1 of the solenoid valve terminal connector. See the last picture I just added. Its the Pressure Control Solenoid, kinda important for auto cars! This is if you don't have an auto harness to tap into. I will check my wiring again.

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    Last edited: Jul 29, 2018
    My DSM:
    1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    Street Build

    14b   automatic
    1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    13.620 @ 108.460 MPH
    1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    13.612 @ 107.760 MPH
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  4. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    MY PERSONAL SETTINGS:
    I'm going to post this publicly so that everyone can copy or at least look at MY PERSONAL settings for my 1992 Talon. It drives very stock like and the auto-upshift points (for drag racing) are set low because its all stock down to the 13b turbo. I have video on this cars profile also if you feel like seeing it work. I mash the gas in Manual mode and it shifts exactly where I have it set at, everytime otherwise, I can manually shift or flip it into Auto mode and it drives like normal.
    Enjoy all....
    Marty

    Ps. If you find a flaw anywhere, please let ME know! :thumb:
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    My DSM:
    1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    Street Build

    14b   automatic
    1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    13.620 @ 108.460 MPH
    1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    13.612 @ 107.760 MPH
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  5. rEclipserGST

    rEclipserGST Proven Member

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    I planned on getting the smart shift box. Is this the 100? Also, have you tried the converter slip option out yet???
     
    My DSM:
    1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    13.583 @ 108.440 MPH
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  6. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    Its the SmartShift 100.1
    I have been through all of the menus many times but haven't found a "converter slip" function. My car will stall up to 3k before I start to push thru the brakes and it is starting to grab there anyway.
    Interesting.....my auto car is all stock.

    Edit. I do find "stall up" on the analog input and the digital output screens but i don't know how one would configure it to help with stall, so by all means, if you can add to this thread, please do. :thumb:
    You still have to remember, Shawn built these to work with multiple electronic shift applications!
    Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2018
    My DSM:
    1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    Street Build

    14b   automatic
    1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    13.620 @ 108.460 MPH
    1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    13.612 @ 107.760 MPH
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