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Posted by Gamble97, Jul 24, 2006
Newbie Forum - Beginner/newbie/general DSM modification questions. First mods, how to run 10's when you haven't run 12's yet, any tech question that doesn't fit in another tech forum.
What does this extension rod do and will I need it?
No because the fork will only go so far before it bottoms out, an extended rod will end up pushing back at the slave cylinder when the fork bottoms out facilitating slave cylinder blow out, this also applies to welding another nut for further adjustments on the master. Both are nothing but bandages that will cause other problems down the road, instead of locating and fixing the hidden cause.
ps. idk what clutch is in my car but i do know thats a heavier duty one. (not stock)
http://www.machv.com/rewoclpa.html (they recommend that you shim up the pivot ball for aftermarket clutches) Also if you are getting a bigger clutch, buy a new clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder (nopi.com is one place for some good ones). Belive me, my clutch went out EARLY because had never changed these parts= me -$300
Thanks for your response but it doesnt help. my car isnt a 1g. i have a 2g, but my question is... does it hurt anything to have the extension rod installed? i put is in two days ago and if it doent hurt anything in time i dont want to have to take it out again. Basically is it safe to have the rod intalled sort term, long term?? thanks
I'm not trying to push your buttons or anything, but why put so much cash into such a nice build up (8.5 ross/eagles, fp cams, GT35 turbo and TRE tranny) and then install a completely mismatched component that will clearly be the weak link?
When was the last time you saw a ~600hp car running a 2100 clutch?
But to answer your last question, no an extended slave cylinder push rod should not harm anything. However, it is a bandaid/patch like modification that is designed to cover up an existing problem in your hydraulic/clutch system.
If everything is set up properly (new or rebuilt fork, pivot ball, master and slave cylinders, properly bled hydraulics etc) you should not need an extended slave cylinder push rod.
Acctually both of these parts will work for a 1G or 2G turbo
Depends on what "short term" means. Yes it is hurting things. Yes you are causing premature wear on other parts. Can you drive it as is to work today? Yes. Should it still be on the car next September? No.
Just get it taken care of sooner rather than later and you will be fine.
Remember that anything in the clutch system that hasn't been replaced in awhile (or ever) will be VERY unhappy to be getting the extra stress (master cylinder, slave, fork, TOB, whatever).
so you probably shouldnt get it if its a DD then?
You shouldn't get one for your DD, your track car, your grocery getter, your Vespa, your Schwinn, your pet monkey, your anything.
There's the half ass jb weld, zip ties, duct tape, clutch extension rod types of fixes, and then there is the right way.
I hate to tell you, but the 2600 with a street disc isn't rated to handle that turbo either. He should be looking at a puck instead of a disc probably, and maybe something even heavier duty than a 2600.
Then again, I don't get the feeling someone asking about the extension rod is going to be squeezing 500-600hp out of this thing. No offense, but you should know what you are doing with a setup like this. Unless you are going to pay someone else to tune it...
A new master cylinder will fix this.