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1G Auto 6 bolt motor into current manual car

Posted by tk106, May 17, 2018

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  1. tk106

    tk106 Proven Member

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    I found an auto 6 bolt and planning on purchasing it if it's still available. I've read some thread and don't think I'll need anything for the swap into a manual. The only thing I'll need to do is remove the ring on the crank for the auto flywheel. Is there anything else I need to purchase or modify?

    Thanks, Tony
     

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  2. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    Did you get a wiring harness and TCU with it Tony?
    Just stuff I would think I need if I swapped....and a shifter with the cable.
     
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  3. tk106

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    Marty, I want to put that motor into my current set up, manual. I'm not taking the trans.

    Sorry, should've been more clear.
     
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  4. 1990TSIAWDTALON

    1990TSIAWDTALON Moderator

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    Ahhh, I see. Man you should only need the flywheel off of your setup or a spare 6 bolt flywheel, shouldn't you? And take the pilot bushing out of the back of the auto motors crank (2g's have a pilot bushing for the auto's, not sure if 1g's do or not, just assuming they do). :thumb:
     
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  5. b00st3d

    b00st3d Supporting Member

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    You need to add the dowel into the crank for the flywheel.
     
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  6. tk106

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    Thanks guys! Wasn't sure. Guessing it should be straight forward.
     
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  7. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    Yeah Tony, the motor won't care which trans it has on it, but remember, the auto cars had smaller cams and 390cc injectors so just keep that in mind too.
    I have ran without a dowel before but if you can find one and get it out, it would be good to install it too. Forgot about that little thing.
     
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  8. b00st3d

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    Yep, remove the pilot bushing, install the flywheel dowel. ready to go.
     
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  9. tk106

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    Can I use the cams and caps from my motor? Or is that for a machine shop?
     
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  10. mitsubishikid

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    you can swap cams from one engine to another, but not the cam caps, unless a machine shop align hones the caps to work with it.
     
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  11. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    Cams YES, just reuse the cam caps Tony. Don't ever mix cam caps, they are line bored and should always stay with the head as they are matched. :thumb:
     
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  12. tk106

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    Thanks fellas!!!
     
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  13. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    Anytime man! Hope we got ya the info you needed, I think we did. :)
     
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  14. tk106

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    We did!!:heystupid:
     
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    Another thing about the auto motor. The autos run 43.5 psi fuel pressure. Manuals ran 38 ish which flows about 411 ish cc's of fuel. I can't remember exactly what they flow but I think it was Steve who did the math on that
     
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  16. tk106

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    Steve is the dsm mad scientist :thumb:
     
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  17. tk106

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    Finally saw blue smoke when I started it yesterday. Valve stem seals most likely as it doesn’t smoke any other time. I do lose 3/4 quart in 1k if I’m driving it hard. I got a quote from machine shop of $1000 w upgraded rods pistons and new bearings and $250 to clean and deck the head. Are those figures reasonable? The price is for me to remove block and strip the head.
     
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  18. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    What kind of "upgraded" rods and pistons over the already capable 500hp stock stuff? Its a 6 bolt my man!!! :sneaky:
     
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  19. tk106

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    Not sure. I didn’t get into specifics bc I didn’t want to waste his time since it will most likely be sometime during the winter. Really just wanted a ballpark figure so I can start filling the piggy bank
     
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  20. tk106

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    So just keep the pistons and rods, Hone cyclinders, new rings and bearings and resurface deck??? What would you say would be a ballpark figure?
     
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  21. 1990TSIAWDTALON

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    Man tough to say. Without upgraded rods and pistons you should cut your expense by 400ish maybe more depending on what the upgrade consisted of.
     
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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

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    14b   automatic
    1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

    13.620 @ 108.460 MPH
    1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD

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  22. tk106

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    Thanks, Marty!!!
     
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