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Humble,
Texas
Siral3x said:Trucloner11 the 420A is not really worth the money because most upgrades/turbo kits are far beyound a 17 year old budget
wow.. True, most teenagers don't pull in a large amount of money from month to month, but usually if they have a car, they make enough. This was also made, to help those with a lower income achieve the many pleasures of boost.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181134
Siral3x said:I would sell the car and look out for a low millage GST/GSx if you really want the "PHsss" sound.
Us 420a guys are pretty laid back for the most part, but you'll quickly learn that when you recommend an aspiring 420aT'er sell their car and buy a factory turbo car, well..We just don't like that.
And regaurding the "PHsss" sound, when 420a is turbo'd we don't need to be recirculated like 4g63, since we run MAP sensors instead of MAF sensors. So a turbo'd 420a makes the "PHsss" sound alittle bit louder in most cases. Until of course the MAF-T setup is purchased for the 4g63.
Siral3x said:As a noob it will cost you $1000+ in labor only just to install the kit....
How do you know he is a noob? Aside from that, even if he were there is enough information and plenty of helpful members that will help walk him through if he does have any questions or concers throughout the process.
Before I started purchasing parts for my turbo setup I wasn't nearly as wise as I am now. I still have alot to learn, I admit. None the less, I've come a very long way, just from reading here.
Siral3x said:i'm not even talking abt engine prep, and on stock internals you can't run more then 7PSI...I think 8 is too much. Also you need to upgrade the fuel system...other couple $100s..and soo on. You don't want to do it!
Whether you can run more than 7 psi is soley based on the condition of the motor itself. There is no way to know how much it can hold. You could rip the motor apart, and closely inspect everything to make a pretty accurate guess of how much it could take, but one: that's alot of work to do which is really not necessary. and two: if you rip it apart it would be a shame to replace it with OEM internals(no offense X). Second best way to tell if the motor can handle boost is to look at the milage on the motor and to run a quick compression test and make your decision based on it's results.
You said you "think" 8 is too much. 8 psi has become known as the standard max that can be run safely on nearly all boosted 420a's on stock internals. Some are exceeding that by alittle, some are exceeding that by quite a bit. Again, there is no way to know how much pressure the system can actually operate with.
Yes you need to upgrade the fuel system sure, but even if this were a GS-T/X if you were to crank the boost up, eventually you would have to do the same thing.
Siral3x said:+ you have to switch to the expensive 91+ octane gas.
You mean 93?
Siral3x said:I would either keep the car and take really good care of the engine..so you can go thru HS with it , or sell it! save your money!,do you're homework and read read read DMS articles and latter on buy a GST/GSX!
That's a good suggestion to take really good care of it so he will have his car since he is in high school, but many of us 420aT guys have been running pretty reliably for quite some time now.
You also mention he should save his money. He could get $2000-$3000 for his car right now. A GS-T/X will usually run $5000 and up, for it to be in pretty good condition. So he will have to save $2000-$3000 atleast. Which is about the same as a turbo kit costs.