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Landoonter

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Jul 16, 2017
Red Deer, AB_Canada
Good evening ladies and gentlemen. I have recently purchased a 2g DSM (95 AWD auto). I had the car inspected after I made the purchase and had all nessesary maintanence done on the car over the last six weeks. Im looking to mildly modify the car as it will be my weekend/ evening ride. Im looking for reliable horsepower, nothing crazy (maybe adding another 50-70hp) The car currently has an exhaust, manual boost controller/boost guage, and a intake filter. With that being said I called a local shop who has a reputation for building high power DSMs. The owner immediatly started a sales pitch and told me I need to spend at the very least 3k for this build which I think is a bit steep for what im trying to achieve. My question is :

-being the car already has a MBC/exhaust/ & boost guage cant i just buy a 14b have it installed, up the boost a bit, and get a tune?

- Do i need to swap injectors and fuel pump for a mild boost increase

- What would you guys recommend for achieving my goals considering the current mods I have? I dont want to spend 3k on a 3k car that will just be my weekend casual driver. Im not racing it, or autocrossing.

Thanks in advance for the help.
 
He already has a filter, and with his mild goals, anything above what he has or even the stock one will be fine. If you want to do a 14b swap, you can safely turn boost up to 15psi, if I remember correctly, without adding fuel. With your boost controller, exhaust, and intake, you'll probably not have a problem with that setup. You will need a way to tune though. You could find someone to burn a chip for you, buy ECMlink, get SFAC, or something like that. If you just want a spirited weekend/evening driver, I think opting for a chip would be the best. That way you won't have to mess with it all the time.
 
If you want to plan ahead get dsm link. I'd skip the 14b and go right for a 16g. Either one on a 2g involves modifications. I prefer the small 16g because of it's quicker spool up (similar to the t25 just doesn't poop out after 3 seconds) but I'd recommend getting a small fmic if you go that route (my fmic fit perfectly under my crash bar and no bumper trimming; once you go larger you have to start chopping). Change your 02 housing to match your exhaust when you put the new turbo in.
Personally I only use a safc because I only run 550cc injectors. I ran for over 2 years with stock 450 injectors and an Evo X fuel pump and no tuning and was still able to set my MBC to about 16-20psi rarely hitting fuel cut. Afrs were great, just a little rich. You'll need a wideband to monitor. All these parts can be found cheap used.
Also a 4" over 3.5" air filter makes a noticeable difference.
Wait you still have the stock bov? Get rid of that asap. An Evo X is a direct swap but if you plan on upgrading to hard pipes with a fmic, most are pre flanged for greddy, 1g, or hks bovs.
 
Congrats on your purchase!
It sounds like your target is ~300HP at the crank. Fun! You will need ~ 30 lbs/min of flow to achieve that if not a little more. A 14b will only flow up to about 29 lbs per minute and at that point you are really pushing it. It would be better to go slightly bigger like a 16g variant to keep intake temps down. You injectors and fuel pump could theoretically handle that, but would be close and fuel cut isn't exactly pleasant.

1) wideband - So you don't blow stuff up
2) Lowering springs - get it off the stilts
3) fuel pump rewire (STM makes a good kit) - so you don't run out of fuel and blow stuff up (pump voltage tends to drop with stock wiring at higher power demands)
4)ECMlink - So the rest of your stuff can be optimized
5)BOV - Can actually hold more than 13psi
6)Injectors (550s or 650s would be fine) - You are probably going to want to go above 15 psi so you'll need these
7)Turbo - I shouldn't have to explain why
8) O2 housing - fight off boost creep and really restrictive stock part
9) Intercooler/hard piping - looks bad ass and helps prevent heat soak and knock

If you need more I'm sure we can come up with something. There are limitless ways for me to spend your money.
 
I would do:
ecmlink
Wideband
Omni 4 bar map
Evo 8 injectors, larger if you can find em cheap
16g
Make a boost leak tester
T bolt intercooler clamps
Crush 1g Nov

You can run 18 or 19 lbs with that. If your turbo is an e316g, then you could turn it up to 23 or 24 by adding a rrfpr and fuel pump. Would need 660s though. The evo 560s won't support that.
 
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