sexyxe
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- Sep 10, 2016
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Darwin,
Australia
Recently out of boredom I decided to pick up a September 91 built Galant VR4 to let me swing some spanners on.
Fairly long intro to follow.
The short of it: 91 GVR4 with two dead engines. Getting a spare car for parts.
I found one for $750 and figured I have spent more money on bigger weekends, I couldn't go wrong.
The back story is:
Owner I bought the car from bought it not running. He had the same intentions I do. To strip it down and make it a fun daily. He was told by the previous owner that it failed to start one day, and they suspected the starter motor. Proof of this was the brand new starter motor in a box on the passenger seat. The old one was removed and the new was only partly fitted - bolts never tightened or power connected. They had been attempting to modify the timing on the car and do some 'work' on it. Unsure what that meant as I couldn't get it out of the owner as he didn't know either.
The bloke I buy it from picks up a spare motor with the idea of swapping the not running one out with this engine. Unfortunately for him he bought the spare engine already out of a car do no proof of it running besides a blokes word.
12 months pass, he had been spending a bit of time modifying his daily truck instead and this has sat idly by waiting.
I ask the bloke if I can come by and have a look and see if it is worth buying, he is happy to let me check it out and swing some tools around and make a decision.
I come along, throw in a battery and... nothing. Lights dim but nothing else. Basic fault finding leads me to the starter not being connected or bolted in. So I figure I'll go back to basics. I check the plugs and they are destroyed. I take a guess that it has dropped a few valves. He was pretty surprised. Not the most mechanically minded bloke though. Engine is seized. Breaker bar on the crank and it wont turn over. No biggie, there is always the spare engine. Timing looked good when i pulled the engine apart, but the crank bolt was finger tight. So it was destined to happen. To bad so sad.
I have a quick look over the long block, it turns over nicely, plugs are nice, all looks a treat. So I buy it. Comes with an Evo3 turbo, custom (horrible) steampipe exhaust manifold, and 4 lightweight rims. Im happy. I cant loose. I love working on cars.
Now it is in my possession:
I tow it home and get to work on pulling out this dead engine.
The more it come apart the worse the car looked. Wiring is all hack job, and I hate electrcial stuff so that should give you some idea of how it is. It appears it is all cut, twist, electrical tape job. No crimping, connectors, heat shrink, tape. Horrible stuff. The ecu is also in rough shape. So I'll send that off to ecmlink for repair.
So the engine is now out, i decide to pull down the 'good spare' top end to have a look and make sure it hasn't got any hidden damage. First thing, worn cam journal. Not great. End up pulling it completely down and it has spun a big end bearing, which has destroyed every other bearing and ultimately a cam and the head.
No biggie I'll use the other engines head and frankenstein one together. Take them to a workshop and the journal is too far worn, mo surprises. But the dead engine has taken such an ass whopping from the 6 valves it has dropped and the other 6 it has bent the shop has declared it not economical to repair. They will but they expect it to be over a grand (Aussie dollars here). The valve seats and cracked too. So that sucks.
Im now stuck with two stuffed heads, probably a good bottom end between the two other blocks, both bores feel fine - yet to be confirmed. No big drama, I'll find a new head. After a bit of surfing ebay and car sites it appears I am up shot creek without a paddle. They are expensive, if even available. Even if I have a friend in the US buy one and then ship it to me, I'm looking close to a grand.
So second plan. Whole new engine. Even harder to find. Plenty of evo donks around but no GVR4s... besides one in a CB lancer that has had a 4G63 transplant.
So this is where I currently sit. Waiting to get home from a trip away with work to go and check this new car out. The bloke is happy to let me compression test the engine as long as it is at my cost - I have the gear so no issues. The car runs and drives, but is fwd only, so no one wants it. It is also not able to be registered in my State due to modification laws do no one wants it. It apparently makes 192fwkw ~250hp at the front wheels. Some go fast bits, big 16g, some more rims, boost controller, some gauges etc.
I figure for the ~1500-2000 I pay for this car by the time I strip it for parts I'll be even or up - abs delete, bigger turbo, MBC, gauges, not having to rebuild a head, interior trim items.
Thats my long intro. I've been doing a heap of reading, and a fair bit of stalking before posting so hope to getas much knowledge and fault finding as I can from here and contribute back.
I also own a 2004 E55 AMG with a few mods if anyone is keen on that and my hack is a Landrover Discovery as the workhorse
Fairly long intro to follow.
The short of it: 91 GVR4 with two dead engines. Getting a spare car for parts.
I found one for $750 and figured I have spent more money on bigger weekends, I couldn't go wrong.
The back story is:
Owner I bought the car from bought it not running. He had the same intentions I do. To strip it down and make it a fun daily. He was told by the previous owner that it failed to start one day, and they suspected the starter motor. Proof of this was the brand new starter motor in a box on the passenger seat. The old one was removed and the new was only partly fitted - bolts never tightened or power connected. They had been attempting to modify the timing on the car and do some 'work' on it. Unsure what that meant as I couldn't get it out of the owner as he didn't know either.
The bloke I buy it from picks up a spare motor with the idea of swapping the not running one out with this engine. Unfortunately for him he bought the spare engine already out of a car do no proof of it running besides a blokes word.
12 months pass, he had been spending a bit of time modifying his daily truck instead and this has sat idly by waiting.
I ask the bloke if I can come by and have a look and see if it is worth buying, he is happy to let me check it out and swing some tools around and make a decision.
I come along, throw in a battery and... nothing. Lights dim but nothing else. Basic fault finding leads me to the starter not being connected or bolted in. So I figure I'll go back to basics. I check the plugs and they are destroyed. I take a guess that it has dropped a few valves. He was pretty surprised. Not the most mechanically minded bloke though. Engine is seized. Breaker bar on the crank and it wont turn over. No biggie, there is always the spare engine. Timing looked good when i pulled the engine apart, but the crank bolt was finger tight. So it was destined to happen. To bad so sad.
I have a quick look over the long block, it turns over nicely, plugs are nice, all looks a treat. So I buy it. Comes with an Evo3 turbo, custom (horrible) steampipe exhaust manifold, and 4 lightweight rims. Im happy. I cant loose. I love working on cars.
Now it is in my possession:
I tow it home and get to work on pulling out this dead engine.
The more it come apart the worse the car looked. Wiring is all hack job, and I hate electrcial stuff so that should give you some idea of how it is. It appears it is all cut, twist, electrical tape job. No crimping, connectors, heat shrink, tape. Horrible stuff. The ecu is also in rough shape. So I'll send that off to ecmlink for repair.
So the engine is now out, i decide to pull down the 'good spare' top end to have a look and make sure it hasn't got any hidden damage. First thing, worn cam journal. Not great. End up pulling it completely down and it has spun a big end bearing, which has destroyed every other bearing and ultimately a cam and the head.
No biggie I'll use the other engines head and frankenstein one together. Take them to a workshop and the journal is too far worn, mo surprises. But the dead engine has taken such an ass whopping from the 6 valves it has dropped and the other 6 it has bent the shop has declared it not economical to repair. They will but they expect it to be over a grand (Aussie dollars here). The valve seats and cracked too. So that sucks.
Im now stuck with two stuffed heads, probably a good bottom end between the two other blocks, both bores feel fine - yet to be confirmed. No big drama, I'll find a new head. After a bit of surfing ebay and car sites it appears I am up shot creek without a paddle. They are expensive, if even available. Even if I have a friend in the US buy one and then ship it to me, I'm looking close to a grand.
So second plan. Whole new engine. Even harder to find. Plenty of evo donks around but no GVR4s... besides one in a CB lancer that has had a 4G63 transplant.
So this is where I currently sit. Waiting to get home from a trip away with work to go and check this new car out. The bloke is happy to let me compression test the engine as long as it is at my cost - I have the gear so no issues. The car runs and drives, but is fwd only, so no one wants it. It is also not able to be registered in my State due to modification laws do no one wants it. It apparently makes 192fwkw ~250hp at the front wheels. Some go fast bits, big 16g, some more rims, boost controller, some gauges etc.
I figure for the ~1500-2000 I pay for this car by the time I strip it for parts I'll be even or up - abs delete, bigger turbo, MBC, gauges, not having to rebuild a head, interior trim items.
Thats my long intro. I've been doing a heap of reading, and a fair bit of stalking before posting so hope to getas much knowledge and fault finding as I can from here and contribute back.
I also own a 2004 E55 AMG with a few mods if anyone is keen on that and my hack is a Landrover Discovery as the workhorse