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2G Bought used frankenstein 97tsi. What are parts?

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Bobbert Oswalder

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Hm, don't know where to start. Want to start a quick noobie thread. Came from an Evo x which I did bolt on, tune and turbo, gauges... So I know all the basics and am not new to this game.

Recently bought a 97 tsi awd manual talon after I sold evo. I'm looking for someone to give me quick/dirty answers for the dsm platform without having to go threw pages and pages of idiots arguing back and forth.

-I was told car came with a evo 3 16g. how to check?

-Car comes with a 6 bolt swap (i was told) that something to do with 7 bolt not having a ckps which cause a CEL. Can anyone confirm that a swap would cause a CEL?

-Would a 16g be considered a stock frame turbo for a dsm? I don't know if there is such a thing or if it is t3.

-Whats the the most power that the 6 bolt with stock t case, diffs and tranny can handle without being built safely. Yes I know 'safely'.

-Would I need a bigger turbo and which turbo are dsm guys running now adays. altitude is 2100ft with avail. 91 and 94 oct. when do dsms need injectors, pump... it comes with 510cc yellow top evo 3 injectors, i think a full 3" tbe, intake, bov via with tubular mani.

-The guy I bought it from says its running rich and needs a tune. Under full boost it hits surge/fuel cut SUPER HARD, and even stalls the car. Its like it hits a brick wall. We tuned either threw a POS access port or tractrix obd2 cable with boost and serial data logging 02 wideband. What is my CHEAPEST/FASTEST least hassle way to tune this thing. E tunes doable? I've heard of dsm link, ecuflash, megasquirt, eprom, sending in my ecu. someone clarify this all for me please

-Now for the frankenstein part. It has wires not hooked up and random shit in the pictures. Also supposedly has a 1g swapped in intake mani. Why?
Any and all hints are helpful. Ive played this game before and know my X but dont want to do all the research again for the 2g reading threw what every 16yo kid thinks is good. Thanks guys
 

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Yup, we use GM MAF sensors.

Most common they come off the GM V6 vortex engines. hahhaahhaha this is awesome. i love it. thats why i came back to the dsm thing. i love rigging stuff like this. this makes my life. They are less restrictive than the stock MAF and can be put in line with the upper inter cooler pipe.

You will find that we use whatever we can get our hands on to make our cars look and run different. Including parts from GM, VW, Toyota etc. etc.
 
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so wait I'm expected to "tune" my own car?

you dont e tune these and just do WOT runs in third?

No Way!!

That's too easy!! We like to complicate something that's already complicated. Then adjust it every time we drive!

Link is very good software and has become the most used tuning software because it encompasses all variations possible for these cars and adjusts as the technology advances. You can just run link to program your setup fine tune it and never touch it again. It's really up to you. You have a lot of options here. You can try to get it running right as is, bring everything back to stock setup. Or go all out, big turbo off a John Deere combine, open 6" exhaust, 3 computers monitoring every nanosecond etc.

To help answer the other questions, you can leave the MDP plug alone If you want, we went off on a tangent there.

It's not a bad idea to verify this is a 6 bolt. If you looked at my setup everyone would say it's a 6 bolt 1g engine but it's not. You can mix and match and since your not sure what the PO did it's good to verify.

From the pics it does look like a EVO 16g. You can get a lot of power there, stay with it. Again turbos can be mix matched so verify the numbers. My turbo looks like a Chinese 16g but it's MHI and flows as much as a 19T and spools like a 14B. The proof is in the pudding as they say.
 
So... I am going to safely assume this is a non eprom? Can this one without mods be tuned like you were saying with he new breakthrew?
 

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so I'm told that with my mods i dont need a eprom ecu or socket or any such type of shit and all i need is a 3" gm maf and a translator with a widening and some sort of translator. anyone tell me whats all involved in this process.
 
ok so brother bought a 1g talon totally built with stuff. i took a pic of the ecm. it appears to be eprom. any confirmation that I could use this in my car a 2g?
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