Trying to find anyone with results with a borg warner s247,s250, or s252 for the price they seem like a good alternative to a td06h 20g which i plan on putting together. Been looking on the web and tuners and people have had good results with there s300 series but can't find anything on s200 series.

I'm curious on this too, especially the S256 (aka S200SX-7670?). They come with a 1.22 A/R divided T4 for $603 on eBay, I'd like to know what it would do with a 1.00 housing.

For your purposes, check the S251. It's available in .83 A/R divided T4 for $510, which is extremely appealing to me also.

My 95 GSX has a Borg Warner S258 ETT, it hauls like no tomorrow, but it also has a rare .55 A/R BEP housing that you will not find in production now, but the T3 housings or T4 would just lag a little but increase overall output window. Here's a video link to the 11.5 it ran with a 2.4l engine. If I were to upgrade, I would probably go with the 259.

Tiki2777 said:

....it also has a rare .55 A/R BEP housing that you will not find in production now

Click to expand...

ORLY? I think the price just went up on the near-new BEP S252-256 housing that I happen to have on the shelf.

JusMX141 said:

ORLY? I think the price just went up on the near-new BEP S252-256 housing that I happen to have on the shelf.

Click to expand...

yup I would not let that go very easily, I was thinking about going BW s200 series instead of holset but they said that they had a hard time selling them and definitely aren't making any more.

The Small S200's (below 56mm) I'd believe would be a very hard sale.

Not many were internally-gated...so try selling a new turbo with, say, a 51mm inducer and 70mm exducer (somewhere between an 18G and 20G) that has a larger turbine wheel and housing, is laggier, requires aftermarket oil lines, an external gate either on the manifold or o2 housing, and sells for $1000-$1200 new.

The DSM 20G's over here like anything you can do I can do better....

No you can't.

The BEP S200 series turbos (aka S256, S259 etc) are a different turbo with different turbine wheels than the BW/Aierwerks versions the OP is talking about. The .55 BEP housing will not work FYI.

Canadian_CD9A said:

I'm curious on this too, especially the S256 (aka S200SX-7670?). They come with a 1.22 A/R divided T4 for $603 on eBay, I'd like to know what it would do with a 1.00 housing.

For your purposes, check the S251. It's available in .83 A/R divided T4 for $510, which is extremely appealing to me also.

Click to expand...

I agree. The advantages in power delivery on a twin scroll setup are superior for a street/auto-x car IMO. For someone looking specifically for this, I think its a viable option, if they want to sink a bit more money than your standard DSM 20g setup.

Holy crap, you're alive! You had an S259 right?

I'm torn between an S200SX-56 with 1.00 or 1.22 TS T4 vs an HX35, BorgWarner isn't making things easy with that price.

mean4g said:

The BEP S200 series turbos (aka S256, S259 etc) are a different turbo with different turbine wheels than the BW/Aierwerks versions the OP is talking about. The .55 BEP housing will not work FYI.

Click to expand...

The housing I have came from a Bullseye S256 with a 3" inlet and used a 70/61mm turbine. Any of the smaller Borg S200 units using a 70/61mm turbine should fit right into it....the Bullseye S256 and S258/259 which had the 4" inlet and MWE groove in the cover were the units which used a larger turbine in which case the housing I have would still work once it's machined for the correct wheel radius- the depth and housing grooves should already be correct.

JusMX141 said:

The housing I have came from a Bullseye S256 with a 3" inlet and used a 70/61mm turbine. Any of the smaller Borg S200 units using a 70/61mm turbine should fit right into it....the Bullseye S256 and S258/259 which had the 4" inlet and MWE groove in the cover were the units which used a larger turbine in which case the housing I have would still work once it's machined for the correct wheel radius- the depth and housing grooves should already be correct.

Click to expand...

Ahh ok you have the newer version then. fair enough. Still can't believe BEPs prices though.

Canadian_CD9A said:

Holy crap, you're alive! You had an S259 right?

I'm torn between an S200SX-56 with 1.00 or 1.22 TS T4 vs an HX35, BorgWarner isn't making things easy with that price.

Click to expand...

Lol. Ya man don't post too much. Just don't want to deal with trolls here or on evo123. I just have better things to do with my time. Ya I had the s259 in a .55 bolt on housing. I did have the larger 74/64 turbine in mine. The s200sx-56 is a totally different turbo with turbine wheels modeled after the EFR family. Personally if u are looking into a twin scroll setup I like the s200sx Over the HX35 for a couple of reasons.

-flexibility of 5 different sizes of twin scroll turbine housings with the better flowing T4 flange
-much more convenient to build a downpipe than dealing with a big awkward holset turbine housings
-Oil lines are an easier straight forward deal
-Compressor housings on a holset are too large to use on an early evo (although I would also check the new S200 compressor housing size, but I can tell you the BEP version's were around a T04E size)They are just not worth the effort.
- When compared to S200 series a holset offers no price or performance advantage.


Good luck. Hope I helped.