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eliot

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Jul 31, 2015
camas, Washington
Hi everyone. I am a new member, recently purchased a eclipse gst 1997 and I have a few questions

Quick background, when I purchased the car it all seemed fine, low miles, decent shape. But after getting it home it blew an oil line the day of purchase.


The hotside housing of the turbo cracked and I'm looking to replace it. I'm not sure where to go from here. I've been browsing this forum looking for ideas, and browsing different sites like forced performance and extreme psi. TURBOS ARE SO EXPENSIVE JEEZ. I have the money but I'm just unsure what to get and want to make sure I buy the right thing. I need advice, I don't want to push a ton of horsepower, I'm first just looking to get the car running again and reliable, and then down the road possibly mod it to push more boost.

What I want to do is buy a bigger turbo that can be run at lower boost without a ton of modification reliably, do that I can later, when I'm ready, push it harder(evo 3 16g/small 16g).

Can I do this with a evo 3 16g? Or will I need upgraded injectors and fuel pump to even run it on lower boost (12-14 psi). Same with small/big 16g?

Does anyone on this forum possibly have a turbo they would be willing to sell used??? I already messaged a couple people from older posts, but no responses yet.

Should I just go back to the stock turbo till I'm ready for a bigger one???

Also where is a good place to buy bigger fuel injectors? In case I want to go with the evo 3/small 16g?

Does kinugawa make good turbos: ???

http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/o...63tlancerevo3dsm1g2gtd05h-16g49178-01470.aspx

They seem cheaper than other websites.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post and lots of questions.

Eliot.
 
Well I'm not sure its trashed, but the hotside housing is squirting out coolant, and also dripping from a bolt hole thing. I already read through the basic horse power upgrades, but thank you for your response.

Will I be able to run that turbo without major modifications? Injectors/fuel pump?
 
Well I'm not sure its trashed, but the hotside housing is squirting out coolant, and also dripping from a bolt hole thing. I already read through the basic horse power upgrades, but thank you for your response.

Will I be able to run that turbo without major modifications? Injectors/fuel pump?

If you read it, you would not be asking this question................

There was also more than one link posted for reference.

You may want to investigate what is going on with your car before you just start throwing parts at it. By the additional descriptions also not given in your first post, it is clear, you are new to this. Jumping to conclusions is a sure fire way to waste time and money.

If you have this issue going on, you likely have more wonderful things the previous owner has left for you. Posting pictures and learning terminology will be much more helpful if you want some help. As will reading the advice given.

You want to throw another turbo at it? Go for it.....


If you want a decent turbo, check out supporting vendors on this site or classifieds. If you want junk, check out ebay.
 
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Yes, I am very new to this. And that is why I bought this car. I knew it
wasn't in the best shape or currently the best daily driver, I knew it needed some work (a little more than I anticipated) but I bought this car to learn, and work on myself.

Sorry to come as arrogant. I am not, and am thankful for your response and help. The turbo is no longer on the car, I can post a picture of it but the crack it was leaking from cannot be seen, it is very small. And I have already looked for it.

I read through your links. The basic horsepower upgrades is useful, but not what I am looking to achieve. I simply want to get the car running again, and believe I need to buy a new turbo. Wouldn't it make sense to buy a bigger than necessary turbo to leave myself room to upgrade horsepower in the future??

I have been looking through the classifieds but as far as I can tell no replacement turbos are currently for sale.

I have already begun fixing some of the issues left for me from the previous owner. I have replaced the valve cover gasket and the oil pan gasket because of some minor oil leaks. I have purchased upper and lower control arms ready for installation as soon as the turbo issue is fixed and I can take it off the jack stands. I am now currently trying to resolve this turbo charger problem and am looking for advice and direction.

Thank you for the installation guide I am reading through it currently. Does that turbo look like a decent replacement? Or is it poor quality? It looks like a decent deal.
 
Thank you for the help. I am really new and appreciate it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

I realize it is easy for you experienced car guys to find what you need and know exactly what to look for. And as I gain more experience I hope to too, its just I was hoping for a little help. Not to come off as lazy or arrogant at all.
 
Here's my opinion on your original questions....

"What I want to do is buy a bigger turbo that can be run at lower boost without a ton of modification reliably, do that I can later, when I'm ready, push it harder(evo 3 16g/small 16g).
Can I do this with a evo 3 16g? Or will I need upgraded injectors and fuel pump to even run it on lower boost (12-14 psi). Same with small/big 16g? "

Unless you want to get supporting Mods...stick with the stock t25 or T28. You can find one here in the classified for as low as $100 or less. These turbo's will get the car up and running, if the problem truly is the turbo.
If you are dead set on getting a 16g, do the research as suggested (you need slightly more than just bigger injectors to run it successfully). Last thing you want to do is get a brand new turbo and then trash your engine because of a lack of supporting modifications. DONT get an "ebay" turbo if you can help it...better to pay a little more in the beginning than to pay the price of a rebuild due to catastrophic turbo failure.
 
As far as sticking with a T25 or T28 vs a 16G. You wouldn't need anything, but if it's a 16G you need to plumb the turbo outlet to match stock 2G location. And a T28 is just as potent and flows very close to the EVO3 16G (which is the "best" 16G) so there's no saying "if you get a big 16G you have to upgrade injectors or pump" you can and has been done a million times, run a big 16G or T28 on a stock setup, IE: stock boost pressure.
 
Now I'm confused haha.

My plan as of this morning is to buy another 14b because that was what was on the car from the past owner till it cracked. Get the car working with 14b and then slowly do the mods for an evo 3 instead of doing it all at once and getting in over my head.
 
Now I'm confused haha.

My plan as of this morning is to buy another 14b because that was what was on the car from the past owner till it cracked. Get the car working with 14b and then slowly do the mods for an evo 3 instead of doing it all at once and getting in over my head.

Wise choice. Put your money into getting the car running well and taking care of maintenance items. Then enjoy a fun reliable car.
 
Also does anyone know what this fuel pump is? It was in the glove box when I bought the car.

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DO NOT BUY!!!!
Not to put anybody on blast, but that is a small 16g labeled by the seller as a EVO3 16G. The serial number says 49178-05200. There's a huge difference performance and price wise. Stay informed and don't get ripped off, Good Luck!!
Good catch for sure. But the only way to know for sure is to measure wheel spec, 16g's get rebuilt all the time and I'm sure compressor cover is one of those easily damaged and replaced things on a turbo with major shaft play. Still good catch though.


Going from a 14b to a 16g is bolt on. For plumbing. 14b's also show up on classifieds, and in junk yards

Judging by size that pump is the 255-340lph size. It's not a walbro and it's not an AEM though.
 
Alright purchased a 14b and some 560cc injectors, will either use the depicted fuel pump or one I picked up off Craigslist that is supposedly a walbro. Will be working on the car for the next month or so before school starts again. Thanks for all the help everyone. Keep you all posted.
 
Also does anyone know what this fuel pump is? It was in the glove box when I bought the car.

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Remove the foam surround and look for markings.
 
Read a little of this from my phone earlier. Yes, a 16g is perfectly fine to run at lower boost levels. Hell, if you could hold a hx40 to 8psi or less then it would work too. Would perform terribly at that level though.

My advice and i have indeed been out of this for awhile, just getting back in. I can tell you 100% to buy once and buy right. I have 3 sets of injectors now. My PTE 1000s which are really amazing for the size, great injectors. Then i got some bosch 1600s. They are junk.There's a reason you see them sold for 200 a set. Trash and you can't idle/cruise well with them. Just dropped 800 on a set of 2150 FICs, the injector i SHOULD have just bought in the beginning!
This is one example of MANY in my case and other's that i can point out. Example: The car i picked to start out with. After all is said and done i will have right under 30k in it. Had i done things right and bought everything once and got a great stock gsx i would have saved 10k right off the bat. The old "measure twice, cut once" adage rings true here. Good luck bud
 
^this man speaks the truth. I had pte1000's and that piechase should have been my 2150's. The 2150's are kick ass and idle like stock on 94 oct and c16 :) if you habe big dreams ever just go all in rather then spend the $ twice. Hell, I'm on my 4th turbo just from upgrades. Never anything wrong, just wanted more. T25 to 16g (never bolted on) to a scm6152, to an hx40, to now 6466, and after the 6466 will prob be a 67mm it's just how the addiction works
 
Yea thanks guys that's what I'm trying to do. Learn from you guys so I don't make some rookie mistakes that could've been avoided. I think for now I will be satisfied with a 14b and I will be busy getting the car in good shape again. Once everything is solid I will invest in a bigger turbo, but I got the 14b for cheap enough and think it makes the most sense temporarily.

The whole point of this adventure isn't to make the faster car in the world, it's just to learn for now so that someday I can pursue or do something more significant :D.

Now I just how to figure out how to do the timing belt/water pump... it looks like a huge job LOL...
 
Now I just how to figure out how to do the timing belt/water pump... it looks like a huge job LOL...

It's not all that bad. Take your time and research it before hand and you will be alright. Being able to do your own timing belt is a must.
Good job on researching and doing things right, one step at a time :thumb:
 
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