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1G Brake pedal goes to floor after sitting.

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DJ23GSX

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Feb 22, 2004
W. Springfield, Massachusetts
I'm having an issue with my brakes after the car sat in out in the freezing cold for a week. I went to move it the other day and the pedal went straight to the floor and barely stopped by the end of the driveway. I pumped it a few times and it felt normal again but if I let it sit for a minute it goes right to the floor again and needs to be pumped up. The brakes were perfectly fine the day I parked it and I have been daily driving it for a month straight before hand with no issues.

So far I've checked the whole system for hydraulic leaks (no obvious ones found yet). I pulled the master cylinder out of the brake booster and that was dry as a bone. I pulled off the brake booster hose and tested the check valve and that was good. The car doesn't appear to be losing fluid at this point either.

Can a master cylinder be bad and not leak?

A few other odd things I've noticed are:

My boost gauge looses some vacuum while I pump the pedal up
My wideband also goes a bit lean while pumping up the pedal
After I pump up the pedal and hold it tight the pedal gradually goes to the floor right after I rev the engine and it pulls in extra vacuum as the rpm's come down. More vacuum = pedal dropping


At this point I'm just looking for some other suggestion of things to look for or at.
 
I'd say its either the line going to the master cylinder (the giant vacuum line) or something inside the master cylinder.
 
Giant vacum line cant be it. Thats just for the booster. Pedal would still work. Sounds like a bad master. They dont have to leak. think miniature hydraulic jack. They simply get old.
 
Sounds like the front seal in the master cyl. Probably worn out and lets pressure bleed off. I just replaced my master for the same reason. That was all the cussing you heard from the southeast last week. Simple job except for the outside nut. Not enough room to get you hand in there to put the nut back on. Brake lines get in the way of using a socket and extension. Finally stuck the nut and washer on my pickup tool and was able to get it started.
 
Sounds like the front seal in the master cyl. Probably worn out and lets pressure bleed off. I just replaced my master for the same reason. That was all the cussing you heard from the southeast last week. Simple job except for the outside nut. Not enough room to get you hand in there to put the nut back on. Brake lines get in the way of using a socket and extension. Finally stuck the nut and washer on my pickup tool and was able to get it started.


Yeah I know what your talking about with that nut! I pulled the master cylinder out of the brake booster to check it for leaks earlier this morning when it was 8°F outside. It wasn't fun at all LOL
 
I think I went out and bought a "crow's foot" wrench just for that nut. Cheap rebuild parts, hard to reach nuts and bolts. Also check the drivers side carpet next to the brake pedal where it goes through the firewall. Mine leaked brake fluid here when the seal went and it wasn't obvious until I crawled under the steering wheel.
 
Well I threw in a new master cylinder yesterday and replaced a rear brake line that bolts to the caliper that had a tiny hole in it and still have the same issue. I bench bled the hell out of the new master then bled it at the lines that connect to it. I couldn't break the bleeder valve loose on the rear caliper so I just bled it the best I could where it screws into the caliper. I know this is far from the ideal way to bleed it but the problem isn't any better. I figured with a little air in the line I'd get the spongy pedal feel but not the pedal to floor problem still.
 
Hi, i'm having the same problem with my brake pedal. How did you solve it ?
Well I threw in a new master cylinder yesterday and replaced a rear brake line that bolts to the caliper that had a tiny hole in it and still have the same issue. I bench bled the hell out of the new master then bled it at the lines that connect to it. I couldn't break the bleeder valve loose on the rear caliper so I just bled it the best I could where it screws into the caliper. I know this is far from the ideal way to bleed it but the problem isn't any better. I figured with a little air in the line I'd get the spongy pedal feel but not the pedal to floor problem still.
 
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