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420A valve cover gasket leak causing exhaust smoke?

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PlanZero

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Aug 13, 2013
Easton, Pennsylvania
I just acquired a 98 rs for my gf. The car was sitting since October because of expired inspection. She drove it an hour home, and upon starting it up the next day it started to blow plumes of oil smoke out the tailpipe within a few minutes. Needless to say, this car was neglected mechanically the last few years. Besides needing struts and brakes, the engine looks like it was dipped in molasses due to a leaking valve cover gasket that's probably been leaking for years (ironically, there's no oil dripping on the ground). The only thing new on this car is the exhaust from the downpipe back. The car runs great, BTW. Before I do a compression and leakdown test for the valve stem seals and rings, is it possible this sludge on the engine is somehow seeping into the manifold causing smoke? There's no smoke from under the hood. I plan on changing the gasket, plugs, wires, oil, filter and seadoaming it this weekend. Then power wash. I'm not trying to dump much money into this car besides the necessities, since my gf is driving it, and it's only a 420a.
 
replace the valve cover gasket.. When you have the valve cover off look for build up. The sludge is not going to seep into, but if cheap oil was used it may have a build up.. Simple fix buy a few oil filters and change the oil a few times. I have ran Delo 400 thru my car a few times changing the oil every other day for a week. do a leak down and check the turbo seals. Im still new tho the turbo side but the rest is basic.
 
Well, unless someone has done some work to it, an RS doesn't have a turbo. That narrows things a little. What color is the smoke? Has anything been done to the car? Got any idea what oil was used?
 
Nothing was done except a new exhaust a year ago. Oil changes were done at "car quest" LOL. Can only imagine what they used. The guy I got it from got it from owned it for three months and never changed the oil. He got it from the original owner and swore it never smoked. I've dealt with this guy before and I believe him. The smoke was definitely tinted bluish grey, and smelled like burning oil.
 
It stays pretty smoky for a while after start up. Unfortunately, no one around here rents compression testers so I'd have to pay to get one done, and that's not in the budget right now. My theory is this: the car didn't smoke before, sat for two months, is covered in sludge, and the long ride home just softened it up. Haven't taken it anywhere beyond short trips since then. I'm hoping that by seafoaming, changing the oil, pcv, vc gasket, most of the sludge will be gone. I'll obviously so another oil change about 100 miles after this one. Sound reasonable? Like I said, the car runs great.
 
OK so I seafoamed, changed the oil, filter, vc gasket, replaced the whole throttle body with one from my wrecked gs (with newer tps and IAC), pcv, and the smoke is starting to be sporadic and less frequent. However, I still have weird idle issues, like a surge right after start up until the car's warmed up a little. I also pulled the map sensor and cleaned it, and the intake is filthy. When I pulled off the tb it was black inside, as well as far as I could see into the intake. I assume this build up is contributing to the smoke. Should I just seafoam it again?
 
My guess is worn piston rings. And remember, the 420a is notorious for blowing its head gasket around 100k.
 
Well there's no signs of hg problems. Its definitely oil smoke, but previous 420as I've owned with bad rings and valve stem seals acted differently. The smoke started slowly and sporadically. This just happened overnight after a long drive, and just started billowing smoke out of nowhere. I know, I know, I'll get a compression test when I get a minute. Problem is the only free day I have my gf is using the car, not to mention that's my time to fiddle with my Tsi. The smoke seems to be dissipating. I want to know what I can use to thoroughly clean my intake manifold. The seafoam didn't even scratch the surface.
 
Did you look at the plugs? And have you thrown any codes yet?
 
Oh yeah. When I changed the plugs, they were all worn, but two had some oil on the threads. Guess that answers my question. Valve stem seals :ohdamn:
On a related note, when I changed the plugs on my Tsi I noticed some oil on the the threads as well, but no smoke. I did notice that two of the plugs were extremely loose, and that car had an extremely bad vc leak when I got it, complete with oil dripping into the spark plug wells. I assume the seals are just worse on the RS. No codes.
 
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