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Pablobtown

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Sep 16, 2013
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I will be getting link vs in the next week or two. I've always wanted a "sport" modes like we see in the EcoBoost line from ford. Is this a possibility with link? Or something I will have to program myself? I'd love to replace that mysterious third button (the blank with the hazards and rear defrost) with a button programmed to switch in and out of Sport Mode. Anyone who has done this before? It'd be really nice as I DD my dsm.
 
if your getting link tune your car where you want it and leave it alone. the sport button is called your foot and gas pedal. if your car make 400hp at 25 psi doesn't mean you have to hit full boost and use that 400hp from the time you start the car to the time you shut it off LOL
 
Well, you could have this "push button" be tied in somehow to an electronic boost controller. If you use a push button set-up you would only have the option to go from low boost to high boost...nothing in between.
 
yes but you still would have to change your timing and fuel trims to match your low boost and high boost
 
yes but you still would have to change your timing and fuel trims to match your low boost and high boost

Imagine there was no 2 position electronic boost controller. Do you have to stop and pull out the laptop when you go from 10psi to 20psi? No. You dont. Because you tuned the full range of boost you plan to run from idle to WOT. Johnmyers has the best idea for a true "sport mode" button(or whatever the hell its called). Putting a switch in to control boost doesn't erase your DA table suddenly..... it's still there.

EBCs are expensive OP, might i suggest just a simple hallman in-cabin boost controller? You could set it for your "normal" mode then just remember how many turns it takes to get to the high boost setting.
Not quite as trick as a momentary button, I agree, but a whooooole lot cheaper and you can adjust it pretty fast.

I can engage "sport mode" in most cars by using my right foot. But i gotta say, an EBC does sound like a nice add-on down the road. I mean when every single bolt is polished and every last thing is done i would probably install one. More for the passengers to get a kick out of it.
 
Link doesn't do this on the fly?[DOUBLEPOST=1414119088][/DOUBLEPOST]thanks boost97gst...beat me to the reply. I run ProEfi so not familiar with link, but I was hoping you don't need to adjust your tune everytime you change boost level LOL
 
yea your right if you tuned for 30 psi from idle to wot it whould be tuned thur the spool brain fart on my part. but I still feel it to be unnecessary to do this sport button. my wrx was at 370 hp on 23 psi and if I didn't want to go fast I didn't have to and if I wanted to full boost I put it to the floor. I feel we are the boost control sport mode button switch whatever you wana call it. but that's just my opinion. not trying to down any idea that's what keeps us going
 
^^^ You still need an EBC with the boost by gear but yea, there are options in Link. I havent messed with any of them. With a FWD especially it was annoying hit full 30psi in first and second. You can help by easing off the throttle but boost tends to want to build FAST as we all know so its a bit of a hassle feathering it. Meh, im just lazy haha. It wasnt "useable" power until mid way through 3rd. Spinning all the way. Thats at ~500hp though. I think an EBC might need to be a little higher on my list even after i go AT and AWD.
 
Ok thinking away from "Sport Mode", then maybe it would be nice to have "Eco Mode" to lean the AFR and limit boost. I know the ecoboost engines are kinda cool, it leans the mixture way out for normal driving, then in "sport mode" it riches it back to a proper 4-cyl turbo motor (Or so I believe that how they work). My friends Ford Fusion is scary fast... but also gets like 40mpg highway...
 
Ok,ok.... This is "pre google" info im about to spew unto the interwebs. The ecoboost ford uses most likely has GDI. Direct injection. GDI allows for very very lean conditions under low load driving i.e. interstate cruise.
You're talking afrs in the 17:1 and even leaner at times. Just like out ecus, when it sees higher airflow, it backs off the timing and richens the mixture up quit a bit to avoid detonation and produce maximum performance for whatever octane fuel is being used.

You can only lean out a 4g63 so much. Primary reason? The way the fuel is injected into the cylinders. Its a conventional way. The reason my 2014 focus can get over 40mpg at 65mph is the GDI. Im sure you can go on youtube and watch some vids on how GDI works and how it can effectively cool the cyl temps at such lean afrs.

Our engines lean the afr out too when we're not past the 0 mark on the boost gauge.

And IMO, the ford Fusion is not fast by ANY means bro.... you gotta push the dsm a lil bit and itll kill any fusion

Edit: Without googling, Im also pretty sure the new ecoboost uses some form of variable valve timing which helps even more with MPG on the cruise/low load side and more power throughout the range from idle to WOT.
Newer tech IS better. Go buy a new Evo, now thats about the best you can get, new, for 35 grand. If you want awd and turbo, that is. And that's purely subjective LOL

ANOTHER edit.... sheesh: You want a button that basically makes it GO or NO GO, it sounds like. So have you thought about the most simple and powerful button LOL? A 50 shot N20 kit. IDK much about nitrous but a 50 shot wet kit would put a god damned smile on your face and can be made to be safe and not cause damage to internals(like they have such a bad rep for) Ok ok ok, i am OUT of this thread. hope i could help, sorry if its too much info and if im wrong on any point please correct me.
thanks
 
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All eco boost is, is vvt. "variable valve timing" in fords nifty wording. Also one of the last manufacturers to jump on board with this.
I've never been Ford fan, never will, I see more new fords dead on the side of the road then any other brand.
I am however impressed with their output and choice of forged parts!


I'm pretty sure DSM link will allow you to do what you want to a certain degree! Their support forums are amazing!
 
Oh I'm by no means a ford fan whatsoever, I just think it's a really cool idea and feature, i have yet to race the thing, but I have driven it and it'll put you back in your seat a good amount! So in other words... we aren't getting 40 mpg anytime soon. But I'm ok with that. I'd prefer to walk v8 mustangs anyway :sneaky: Thanks for the input
 
Ok thinking away from "Sport Mode", then maybe it would be nice to have "Eco Mode" to lean the AFR and limit boost. I know the ecoboost engines are kinda cool, it leans the mixture way out for normal driving, then in "sport mode" it riches it back to a proper 4-cyl turbo motor (Or so I believe that how they work). My friends Ford Fusion is scary fast... but also gets like 40mpg highway...

ford fusion and scary fast should never be used together LOL

eco button sport button how ever you want to drive then drive it that way we get decent mpg when your not full boosting everywhere. and when you want to go fast push the pedal want to save gas don't push it as hard LOL. seems like a waste of effort when you can control it with the gas pedal.
 
Ok just to clear up a few things eco boost are turbo charged, direct injected and have variable valve timing plus a pretty high c/r. V6 and 4 cylinder both have gdi and they use a certain way of injecting the fuel called lean burn or stratified charge. Couple that with a higher efficiency (higher c/r) and you get much higher fuel efficiency. Vvt will also allow an egr effect.
 
I'm wrong, I'm thinking of duratech, guess the ecoboost tag is the smaller turbo charged motors.
And or my bad.

I've always thought it was just vvt, as they seemed to have a little more pep, wouldn't of thought that focus would have a turbo in it.
 
I applaud their efforts to FINALLY push the the tech forward. I know Mitsubishi actually used gdi first, but u.s fuel had too much sulfur and that caused problems. Obviously vvt and turbo charging aren't new but combined with a dohc 4 valve per cylinder, shallow included angle pent roof angle ( gm still uses 2 valves and same basic original design in the new vette, really?)it seems to be a step in the right direction. And once they have the machining for these new parts they should eventually get better and cheaper. Maybe one day their will be an American car that we might like better than an import!
 
Ecoboost is light years ahead of dsm anything as far as technology goes, it's strange to hear them mentioned together. You could use the aux. maps and switch back and forth but on the same fuel there wont be any real benefits. But My car runs daily @32 psi and i get 18-20 mpg, not too bad if you ask me.
 
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