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Is this Evo 3 16G the real thing or just a big 16G?

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Ski Bum

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I have been considering buying an evo 3 16G from a guy. He states it is a Buschur Evo 3 16G. The guy posted pictures of the turbo and for all intents and purposes it looks like an Evo 3 16G. The serial # on the compressor housing is consistent with other Evo3 16G's but the turbine housing looks like any other 16G or 14B for that matter. The pictures on Slowboys site show a different turbine housing with a contoured rather than square flange for the exhaust inlet that attaches to the exhaust manifold.

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Here is another common picture of an Evo 3:
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Here are the pictures the seller provided:
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Could the compressor housing be an Evo 3 with the turbine housing being something else? Does Buschur make any changes to their Evo 3?

I have never seen an actual Evo 3 16G and what to make sure I'm getting the right turbo.

Thanks.
 
The serial numbers are consistent with a Big 16G and not an EVO III. A true EVO III will have 01470 as the serial suffix.

Just for reference, the numbers break down like this:

49178-01420: Big 16G
49178-01520: Small 16G
49178-01470: EVO III 16G

All share the same TD05 compressor housing with the 14B, however the EVO III and EVO III GT are available with 34mm flappers to avoid boost creep as opposed to the 31mm flappers that are more common on standard 16G's. Unless the wheel was swapped, that's a Big 16G.

Sorry,

Andy
 
CanadianTSi said:
You can tell it's not an Evo 3 by looking at the exhaust housing Inlet...if it doesn't curve in then it's not an Evo 3.

I wasnt entirely sure if the curved flange on the exhaust housing was a trait specific to the Evo 3 that distiguished it from others.
 
It's definately not an EVO3 turbo thats for sure.

And why does one of the bolt holes on the downpipe side of the housing look like its been cut out?

Here is a list of the numbers that I have managed to come up with from over on this side of the pond.
And Andy, I never realised that the 1420 was a big 16g. It is from a VR4 RS but over here we always thought it was a small 16g. If someone has one could they possibly measure the wheel so it can be confirmed?

49178-01400 = vr4 turbo a.ka. 14B
49178-01410 = vr4 turbo ASPEC
49178-01420 = vr4 RS turbo Big 16G- Thanks to Andy!
49178-01450 = Evo-1 turbo big 16G? (mine is anyways)
49178-01460 = EVO-2 turbo
49178-01470 = EVO-3 turbo
49178-01580 = EVO-7 turbo

Thanks for the praise Andy :)
Always good to get new information!

Thanks

Tim
 
Tim,

Good post and well done on the research!

To complete your list, the 01520 suffix is indeed a small and the 01420 is a big. I've confirmed this by calling a number of Mitsu turbo vendors when I was try to find out many moons ago.

G'day,

Andy
 
arite guys, can you help with this ad from ebay? is it a realy evo 3 16g?

This auction Contains:
Complete 16G Turbo

Walbro 255 Fuel Pump

Fuel Pump re-wire kit

This is a New EVO 3 16G Ported Turbo and a Walbro 255 fuel pump and wire upgrade kit. I purchased all this NEW off Ebay and never installed anything.I am selling all this as a package deal only. internal wastegate turbo supports 380hp and delivers 550 cfm. It has a 16G compressor wheel, TD05H turbine wheel and a specially designed turbine housing. It is ported and has a larger wastegate. It fits 89-99 MItsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser with the 4G63 Engine. It is a direct replacement for the 14B Turbo. And also comes with the install kit for the 95-99's

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There's nothing on the casting that I can read or even see. If it says TD05H and the serial reads 49178-01470, it's a real EVO III. If it doesn't say anything or says EVO III GT, then it's not.

We have tons o' threads on this.

Andy
 
andymoraitis said:
We have tons o' threads on this.

Andy

Isn't that the truth :cry: Anyway, to ellaborate, it looks like a chinese knock off of the e316G and remake of the evoGT. The true e316G has the casting marks and serial numbers, the evoGT literally says evoGT on the comp cover, and the blank ones are just plain old knock offs. It's kind of like eating fake spam. :thumb:
 
andymoraitis said:
The serial numbers are consistent with a Big 16G and not an EVO III. A true EVO III will have 01470 as the serial suffix.

Just for reference, the numbers break down like this:

49178-01420: Big 16G
49178-01520: Small 16G
49178-01470: EVO III 16G

All share the same TD05 compressor housing with the 14B, however the EVO III and EVO III GT are available with 34mm flappers to avoid boost creep as opposed to the 31mm flappers that are more common on standard 16G's. Unless the wheel was swapped, that's a Big 16G.

Sorry,

Andy


So what kind of turbo is this?

http://www.dsmtuners.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=47162&cat=fav

looks like the numbers read 052 somthin
 
Do yourself a favor - go to extremepsi and spend the $530 and get a REAL MHI e3b16g..

That's what I just did, and the turbo is a monster :) I had to go external gate though because the 32 wasn't flowing enough.

Oh well, I've been meaning to do that anyway.

And that one you just posted doesn't look liek it either - it's got a weird serial #.. Not to mention the dude is selling t for more than you can get brand new from extreme ?!
 
So which one flows more? evo 3 or b16g ?

It's definately not an EVO3 turbo thats for sure.

And why does one of the bolt holes on the downpipe side of the housing look like its been cut out?

Here is a list of the numbers that I have managed to come up with from over on this side of the pond.
And Andy, I never realised that the 1420 was a big 16g. It is from a VR4 RS but over here we always thought it was a small 16g. If someone has one could they possibly measure the wheel so it can be confirmed?

49178-01400 = vr4 turbo a.ka. 14B
49178-01410 = vr4 turbo ASPEC
49178-01420 = vr4 RS turbo Big 16G- Thanks to Andy!
49178-01450 = Evo-1 turbo big 16G? (mine is anyways)
49178-01460 = EVO-2 turbo
49178-01470 = EVO-3 turbo
49178-01580 = EVO-7 turbo

Thanks for the praise Andy :)
Always good to get new information!

Thanks

Tim
 
Here is the question. Their are 2 evo 3 turbos available depending on the evo 3 build date. So what's the difference between them?

mr187776 and mr239346
 
Those are mhi PART numbers. The numbers I posted are from caps. Asa mitsubishi says their are 2 evo 3 turbos depending on build date.
 
I know what they are. Caps says both are for evo 3. Not one for evo 2. Anyway wondering what the difference is.
 
I know what they are. Caps says both are for evo 3. Not one for evo 2. Anyway wondering what the difference is.

Evo 1/2 =big 16g
E3=Evo 3

Thats a sexy ass lip you got on the bumper there,thats slick.
 
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