Terms of Service and Rules

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Terms of Service

The providers ("we", "us", "our") of the service provided by this web site ("Service") are not responsible for any user-generated content and accounts ("Content"). Content submitted express the views of their author only.

You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws.

All Content you submit or upload may be reviewed by staff members. All Content you submit or upload may be sent to third-party verification services (including, but not limited to, spam prevention services). Do not submit any Content that you consider to be private or confidential.

We reserve the rights to remove or modify any Content submitted for any reason without explanation. Requests for Content to be removed or modified will be undertaken only at our discretion. We reserve the right to take action against any account with the Service at any time.

You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.

We do not delete member accounts upon request. If you no longer wish to participate on our site simply disable all email notifications and alerts in your account options, do not post any threads or replies, and do not email or PM any members and your account will essentially become dormant. We will not remove content you've posted or completely remove your account from the system.

These terms may be changed at any time without notice.

If you do not agree with these terms, please do not register or use this Service. .

General Site Rules

  • One account per person. We don't change usernames. Each person is completely responsible for all content posted using their account.

  • NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, PERIOD. Report it to a Moderator, do not reply to it. This means that you are not to insult, harass, belittle, threaten, accuse, or spread slander about another member, non-member, shop, website, organization, etc - either directly or indirectly - nor are you to reply to someone who has done so. This applies to all public and private posts in all sections of the site, private messages and email. No elitist, smart-ass, or negative attitudes. Be welcoming and friendly to all.

  • No Trolling. A "troll" is a person who posts content for the sole purpose of baiting someone into a hostile confrontation - they do this for entertainment, to make themselves feel more adequate, and to get attention. It can be blatant or subtle. Do not reply to troll-like threads. If a message is posted that looks like the person is trying to get a rise out of someone, just report it and move on. The best remedy for keeping trolls away is just ignoring them. Do not reply to their baiting messages. Ignore them and they will go away and take their senseless agendas with them. Take the bait and they will stick around and keep posting.

  • No Flame Wars. A flame war is where a debate ends and an emotional argument begins. The intention is to get the last word in. Though it might not contain direct personal attacks the people involved are rarely civil and end up disrupting the discussion in progress with their back-and-forth banter. These arguments will be removed from the discussion and the members involved are subject to account banishment.

  • No offensive or not-work-safe content should be posted on our site. Other things we would rather not see posted here include, but is not limited to: spam, self promotion, commercial posts (see our Vendor Policy), politics, religion, nudity (hot chick threads), racism, drugs, street racing, illegal activities, etc.

  • Public complaints and accusations about classifieds transactions, other members, or shops are not welcome in our forums. We have a Buyer/Seller rating feature for our classifieds in place of forum complaints, as well as a Vendor Reviews section for vendors. If you're sharing your experience with a product in a thread where someone is asking for opinions, that's fine, but starting a thread to serve as a review for a product or vendor is discouraged - use the Vendor Reviews or Product Reviews section for that, not the forums. The forums should not be used as a soap box for complaints.

  • Please do not use the Private Messaging and/or the Visitor Messaging features to ask members tech questions - use the Tech Forums. The point of the Tech Forums is to allow everyone to see the questions and benefit from the answers that are posted in response to those questions. If you send private questions to members, you're going around the system in terms of the way it was meant to be used. Sometimes the PM and VM features make sense, but for most of your technical questions, use the Forums.

Warnings, Suspensions, Account Termination
We don't ban users, they ban themselves. If you're suspended, it means your account is temporarily frozen - you will not be able to post content on our site or use various site features. Most account suspensions last 3-7 days. If your account is banned you are permanently restricted from the site. Do NOT attempt to re-register under a new account name. Do not publicly complain about a Moderator action in the forums, as they're only enforcing the site guidelines that we've posted. Do not take out your frustration with our site policies on them. If you feel you've been treated unfairly by a Moderator, contact the Site Administrator.

Chances are you'll receive a private warning from the moderators to help you correct your behavior before you're suspended or banned. If the violation is severe enough we'll bypass the warning. If your participation on our site is deemed disruptive, inappropriate, or troublesome, you can be banned without directly violating a specific rule. Again, use good judgment and things should be fine. Don't cause trouble and contribute in a positive way.

Membership Status and Posting Permissions

Why can't I post in certain forums and what is a Probationary Member, Proven Member, Wiseman, Moderator, etc?

1. Probationary Member (formerly known as New Member/Lurker status):
Everyone who registers on our site starts off as a Probationary Member. This title simply means you are new to the site and/or haven't contributed very much tech info to the site. You can view all public forums and Search for all the tech info you need. However, you will be limited to posting in the areas designated for Probationary Member posts ( you must limit your tech questions to the Newbie forum and Maintenance & Repairs forum) until you've met two milestones - 30 useful posts in the forums (answers to questions, links to answers, and/or other helpful contributions in the Newbie and Maintenance forums) and a minimum of 30 days registered on the site. Find plenty of unanswered threads here to reply to with helpful information. Only posts in the tech forums will be included in your post count. You can still send Private Messages to members in lieu of replying to their posts in forums you don't have permission to post in.

Probationary members also do not have the privilege of posting ads in our Classifieds section for security reasons, though they can post classified ads in our regional forums - we heavily recommend not dealing with New Members though. If you do, take extra precautions to protect yourself from getting ripped off. All posts resembling classified ads posted in our Tech forums will be removed. Probationary Members are expected to be familiar with the Forum Rules and to abide by those policies. They will also be expected to do a little bit of research before they post tech questions in the forums - that includes having read all of the DSM FAQ's in the FAQ Forum, all of the Tech Articles in the Tech Guide, all VFAQ.com articles, and to have done a Keyword Search on any topic they'll be asking a question about.

How do I get promoted out of Probationary Member status?

Again, it's simple - contribute 30 useful posts in our Newbie and/or Maintenance forums, be registered for 30 days, and have at least 1 DSM Profile set up and you will graduate from Probationary Member to Proven Member status and will be able to post in all of our public forums and the Classifieds section. The easiest way to do this is to post helpful replies in the Newbie forum and/or Maintenance forums. You don't have to know the answers to every question, simply replying with a link to where the answer can be found is sufficient. You can become more educated by reading through the links in the FAQ Forum to help answer questions and post links to answers, since many threads that get posted are posted by people who haven't done much research. You can also quickly find unanswered threads to reply to here (obviously, you'll need to find unanswered threads in the Newbie and Maintenance forums, where you have access to post). It really isn't that tough.

We require this to encourage an environment where people help each other as much as possible and also provide a basic level of security in our Classifieds section. It's sort of like a rite of passage. Become a helpful, contributing member and we will give you more access to do more things on our site. Padding your post count with short and/or unhelpful replies in the Tech forums or posting bad information will result in your posts being removed and even having your posting privileges revoked.

2. Proven Members:
Once you have been a member for 30 days, you've posted a total of 30 helpful posts in the Newbie forum and/or Problem Diagnosis forum, you will be automatically moved to Proven Member status the following day. You'll now be able to post in all of the public forums and participate in all public areas of the site, including the Classifieds. By now, you should already know the basics of modifying DSMs, how and where to reference tech info when needed, and the guidelines and policies of the site. You don't post common questions and you don't post misinformation. You will receive more private message storage, the ability to use signatures and avatars, permission to post Classifieds, and the ability to post events in our Event Calendar. Entry to this new group is fairly easy, as it only requires a little common sense, courtesy, and contribution to the site.

2. Supporting Members:
Members with this title have elected to pay for an optional Membership Upgrade which affords them special recognition and extended access to site features, including a private "anything goes" forum. Their membership helps support the site's operating costs. These memberships are automatically renewed via Paypal Subscriptions on an annual basis. If you want to cancel your subscription/payment, you must log in to your Paypal account to do so. If you violate our site rules and get banned, you will lose all access to the site, and refunds for your paid membership will not be given. Get more info on Upgraded Memberships here.

3. VIP Members:
Members with this title have elected to pay for an optional Membership Upgrade which affords them special recognition and extended access to site features, including a private "anything goes" forum. Their membership helps support the site's operating costs. These memberships are automatically renewed via Paypal Subscriptions on an annual basis. If you want to cancel your subscription/payment, you must log in to your Paypal account to do so. If you violate our site rules and get banned, you will lose all access to the site, and refunds for your paid membership will not be given. Get more info on Upgraded Memberships here.

4. Supporting Freelancers:
Members with this title have elected to pay for an optional Membership Upgrade which affords them special recognition and extended access to site features, just like the optional memberships above. The main difference however, is that they receive access to post offers for products they make and/or services they provide in the Classifieds section. They also are granted special permission to post a one sentence description of the products/services they provide in their signature. You can find their offerings posted in the Freelancer section of the Classifieds. These members are not vendors, but private parties who make products or provide services to the DSM community as a hobby or side business. They do not represent a shop and the business is not their primary source of income - they usually have day jobs. We cannot vouch for the quality of their products or services. As such, you should take the same precautions dealing with them as you would any other unknown member of the site. These memberships are automatically renewed via Paypal Subscriptions on a monthly, bi-annual, or annual basis, depending on the option you select at sign-up. If you want to cancel your subscription/payment, you must log in to your Paypal account to do so. If you violate our site rules and get banned, you will lose all access to the site, and refunds for your paid membership will not be given. Get more info on Upgraded Memberships here.

5. DSM Wisemen:
Those who have the DSM Wiseman title are members of the DSM community who have been around the block and are knowledgeable in various areas of the DSM platform and they typically go above and beyond when helping others on our site. They are considered the resident experts and are recognized by the site as being some of the most helpful members in the community. They represent what this site is all about. They are to be treated with respect, as they've earned it with their contributions to the site and to the DSM community in general. Debate is fine, but insulting a Wiseman will not be tolerated. If you have a problem with a Wisemans' post, Report the post to a Moderator. Do not get into a pissing match with them publicly. They volunteer their time to help inexperienced members on our site and in most cases, have contributed quality content for years in this community. Soak up what you can from them.

6. Moderators:
We have a number of volunteer Moderators on our site that help enforce the rules and keep order. Though these members might also be, but aren't always necessarily Wisemen, chances are they're very experienced in various aspects of DSM performance. The Moderators have the difficult job of enforcing the rules that are usually ignored by many users via deleting posts, locking threads, moving posts to the correct forum, keeping an eye on problematic members, and overall just enforcing the spirit of the site. They deal with constant criticism for their actions by people who usually haven't read the rules of the site or simply just disregard them. If a Moderator locks or deletes your post or reminds you of a site rule, don't get defensive and instead of publicly calling them on it, go back and read the rules. Moderators are not power-hungry babysitters, they just volunteer their time to clean up messes when necessary and help try and maintain a higher standard around here. They may not handle every situation perfectly, but they have our respect for putting time in to help maintain this resource where others don't. If you have a problem with a moderator, keep it offline and bring it to the attention of another Moderator or an Administrator. Complaining publicly about the moderation of the site will do nothing to help you prove a point, whether your complaint has merit or not.

7. Supporting Vendors and Non-Supporting Vendors:
Many sites like ours have Vendors who post in the forums. We invite all Vendors to participate in our forums to help share their knowledge and experience with our members. However, we have a strict Vendor Policy that states what is, and is NOT allowed to be posted by Vendors in our forums. Any person who appears to be affiliated with a shop or selling products or services for profit will be identified as a Vendor. Those Vendors who help contribute to the operating costs of our website will receive the Supporting Vendor title and will receive special privileges. Those who do not contribute to the operating costs will are considered Non-Supporting Vendors. All Vendors are to keep all product and self promotion out of our public forums as specified in our Vendor Policy. Only Supporting Vendors are permitted to promote their products/services in our Vendor Announcement forum.

8. Temporarily Suspended Member:
These members have been warned for rule violations and have failed to comply with our site policies. They have very limited access to the site - the Search function can still be used to find information but all posting permissions have been revoked. The goal is to give the user the opportunity to review our policies and access information, but face the consequence of not being able to participate. If after reinstatement the user still does not comply with our site policies, they'll lose access to the site permanently.

9. Banned Members:
Members who have violated our site policies and have lost access to the site permanently.

Tech Forum Rules

Yes, we are pretty strict with our Tech Forums. When posting a question in our Tech Forums:
  • Post in the correct forum, no cross posting in multiple forums

  • Use proper grammar, spelling, capitalization, etc. No texting/instant messenger lingo

  • Use a descriptive thread title

  • Give as much info as possible and make sure your profile is filled in.

  • No bumping threads (replying to your thread in an effort to get more exposure without posting additional information). If you do not receive a reply to your question, reply to your thread with additional information that might help others answer your question easier. Do not just reply to the thread repeating the same request for help. Thread bumps will be removed by the Moderators.

  • If you ask a question and get the problem solved, be sure to reply to your own thread and let everyone know what solved it. If someone helps you with a tech problem, be sure and return the favor by giving that member reputation points for their helpful reply.

When replying to a question in our Tech Forums:
  • Stay on topic - do not reply to an existing thread with a new question or topic. Start a new thread.

  • Do not reply to a thread with "Use the Search" - answer the question, link to the answer, or don't reply at all.

  • No elitist or smart ass replies to what you may consider a "dumb" question.

  • Explain your answer in detail. If someone is asking about which clutch is best for their application, don't just reply with "ACT 2600". Explain to them why you think the ACT 2600 is the best for their application, or link to the answer.

  • No Guessing - if you don't know the answer for sure, don't reply - we don't need you spreading hearsay and/or misinformation. If your reply contains phrases like "I think", or "I've heard", or "everyone else does it", or "my brother's uncle's friend did it and had no problems" - it is not useful. Only post a reply if YOU know the answer from YOUR own first-hand experience. Instead of replying with a guess, post a link to a thread where the answer can be found, or the same discussion already took place.

  • Use proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation/capitalization - no texting or instant messaging lingo (in our Tech Forums). It makes your post easier to read and understand, and it helps our search feature find your post. We have a built-in spell check feature in our posting forms. Firefox users have it built in.

Common or Repetitive Questions

Be sure you've done research on the question before you ask. This site has been around a while now, and most of the basic questions and topics posted by newbies have already been covered here and in other DSM resources. Nobody wants to answer the same questions over and over again. We've put together a list of links that should answer 95% of all DSM questions you might have in one of these areas. Read through them before posting a question:

Frequently Answered DSM Questions Forum
Tech Guide & Upgrade Paths
Tech Articles & Tutorials
Forums Keyword Searches
How to Use the Search Feature Effectively

If you post a question that is answered in one of the above areas, your thread will be moved to the Newbie Graveyard forum (a read-only forum) to let you know you didn't do the necessary research before you posted the question. We also suggesting doing a Forums Keyword Search. Be sure to read How to Use the Search Feature Effectively. If the moderators come across two or more discussions about the same topic the threads will be merged together. This is done to keep the forums clean and to ensure the Search function works better.

Vendor Policy and Commercial Posts

We'll have two types of vendors on our site, Supporting Vendors and non-supporting vendors. Supporting Vendors are the businesses who invest in our community and help us pay the costs of running this site in exchange for the opportunity to market their products/services to our members. Non-supporting vendors are the businesses who do not invest in our community and are not to post anything in our forums that would be seen as commercial or promotional. See a list of our Supporting Vendors here.

Supporting Vendors are granted special privileges because they support our community. They are able to discuss their products (pricing, availability, and list contact info) in the public forums where members are asking about their products or are discussing similar products. They also receive access to post special announcements in our Vendor Announcement Forum. We only choose vendors who we believe to be trustworthy to be on our Supporting Vendor list. Click here to find out how to become a Supporting Vendor.

All members who are not on our Supporting Vendors list are not to post anything in our forums that could be seen as promotional. This includes but is not limited to; new product announcements, pricing, availability, market feedback, phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, URL's, links, group buys, etc. This applies to new threads, replies, signatures, private messages and emails on our site. They are not to reference their business, products or services anywhere on our site, including in their profile. The information will be removed and the member will be warned, suspended or banned depending on the severity or the repetitive nature of their violation. Unless you are a Supporting Vendor your posts should not reference any commercial content whatsoever. Our members should not be aware of the fact that you're a vendor at all by your participation on our site. The only situation where we're a little lenient on this policy is when manufacturers want to chime in on a thread where their products are being discussed and they attempt to clear up any misinformation. However, we don't allow non-supporting vendors to use our forums for customer support reasons.

Though we don't mind our members occasionally discussing non-supporting vendors, we may choose to remove contact info, links, URL's, etc, for that non-supporting vendor if we feel that there is any hint of spam taking place. If we find a member posting repeated references to a non-supporting vendor or their products we tend to be suspicious. We also don't allow Group Buy threads in any forum except the Vendor Announcement forum, and they should only be posted by Supporting Vendors.

You're welcome to leave ratings for our Supporting Vendors and Non-Supporting Vendors in our Vendor Reviews section. If you have a complaint about one of our Supporting Vendors, please use that section to post your review and also tell us about it separately. Don't post complaints or (customer service) reviews about vendors in the forums. Product reviews are perfectly acceptable, and even encouraged - in the Product Reviews section. Vendors are not to engage in any type of arguments, personal attacks, or retaliation to an attack or harassment under any circumstances. They are to report the offending post to a moderator so that our staff can handle the situation appropriately.

Signatures and Avatars

Signatures

The signature area should only be used for your first name and a short description of your car. That's it. If it's anything more than that, your signature will be removed or edited. We'd prefer that you just used your first name in your signature. When we say "short description of your car" we mean:

  1. A short summary that quickly and specifically describes your DSM - nothing general or loosely related to cars please. If you have to explain how it relates to your car, it doesn't meet this requirement. Your detailed mod list should be posted in your profile, along with your 1/4 Mile Time and your Dyno info - don't use the signature area in place of your profile. Examples of acceptable signatures would be "16g-powered 91 TSi" or "11-second 97 GSX" or "2005 SCCA Class Champion 95 GST" or "600hp 92 GSX". If you are still not sure what we're asking for here, please just use your name for your signature and nothing else. Our Moderating team will have final say when it's not cut and dry. If they ask you to remove or change your signature to better fit the spirit of these guidelines, please just do so without complaining.


  2. Absolutely NO text that doesn't specifically and directly describe your DSM or isn't your first (or last) name. Our Supporting Vendors are the exception - they will be allowed to post their shop name (and/or domain name) in their signature if they choose. However, there should be no addresses, email addresses, or phone numbers, etc. Supporting Freelancers are also given flexibility to mention in once sentence, the products they offer/service they provide.

Avatars

Avatars must only consist of one of two things - a photo of your face or a photo that clearly depicts the exterior of your DSM - this means any 1990-99 Mitsu Eclipse, Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser, a 91-92 Galant VR-4, or any 4G63-swapped car. One should be able to quickly identify what kind of car is in the photo, please avoid extreme close-up shots. If you don't own a DSM, and only if you don't own a DSM, you are welcome to use a photo that clearly depicts the vehicle you do own. If you do not have a photo of your vehicle please do not use the Avatar feature. The photo should be square in dimension and no larger than 200 pixels wide/tall. Supporting Vendors may use their logo in place of a vehicle photo.

If your signature or avatar is removed by the Moderating Team, then you probably strayed a little too far from the spirit of this policy. Do not attempt to challenge the removal or attack the moderators for the removal - both in your new signature or anywhere else in the forums. If you are not sure why it was removed post a polite question in the Site Feedback forum. We feel the rules are very simple and make sense for everyone. Don't get bent out of shape over something as stupid as a Signature or Avatar, please.

DSM Profiles & Journals

What is a DSM Profile? It's just that - a profile for your DSM. You can add very detailed information about your DSM, including specs, modifications, photos, video links, time sheet info, dyno info, etc. Please choose the appropriate category for your DSM Profile and if there is no appropriate category, contact the site administrator to discuss it before submitting your profile.

What is a DSM Journal (previously called DSM Blogs)? It's a forum thread used to share information with others. The DSM Journals here on DSMtuners are to be used as journals or diaries for your project car build, a track day experience, or a detailed write-up on an install or modification you've done (like a Tech Article). If you want to document your project car build or your racing endeavors, you are to use the DSM Journals section, not the forums.

We ask that you not post about non-DSM related topics or about your personal life in the DSM Journals section - use the Hangout forum for that stuff. Your DSM Journal entries should not contain any accusations, personal attacks, or insults towards other people or organizations. It should also not be used as a place to ask Tech questions - use the Forums for that. The basic Site Rules still apply here. No complaints about Classifieds transactions, and none of the usual controversial topics like politics, religion, war, drugs, nudity, street racing, etc. Vendors are not to post commercial content (anything about products or services they sell) in the Blog area.

If you don't quite understand when to post a DSM Journal entry or a Thread in the forums, think of it this way - are you looking to start a discussion or post an update about your project/racing efforts? If you're looking to get a question answered or start a discussion around a specific topic, you'd start a thread. If you want to post information in an article format to share with others, you'd post a journal entry. Questions can still be posted about the information you posted in your journal, but those questions won't get in the way of the content like they do in a thread.

Classifieds Rules

Private party classified-like posts are only allowed in two places on DSMtuners - the Classifieds section of the site and in the regional forums. For Sale, Trade, or Wanted to Buy (WTB) type ads only please. Probationary Members are not able to post ads in our Classifieds section or use the Buyer/Seller Feedback features due to security and fraud reasons, though they are allowed to submit these types of posts in the regional forums if they like. For more info on how to change your Probationary Member status so that you can post Classified ads, read up on membership status.

By using our Classifieds section, you acknowledge and agree that DSMtuners is not involved in or a party to the actual transaction between buyers and sellers and cannot enforce or be involved in settlement of transactions. Whilst DSMtuners has policies in place and advisors and mentors to review activities on DSMtuners , DSMtuners has no control over the legality, quality or safety of items or content posted by members on our site, the truth or accuracy of listings, the ability of or legal right of sellers to sell items or the legal or financial ability of buyers to buy items. DSMtuners cannot ensure and does not guarantee that a member of DSMtuners will actually complete a transaction or act lawfully in using DSMtuners. Any transaction you enter into is at your own risk.

The only assistance we can offer are these tips to help protect yourself.

  • Try and limit yourself to 5 classified ads submissions per week. No duplicate/repetitive ads should be posted from any member - don't spam our classifieds with your FS posts. If you are parting out a car or have a lot of parts for sale, post 1 classified ad with all the parts you have for sale, with detailed descriptions and images for each/all. Don't post separate ads for each part. If you are parting out a car, post it in the Part Outs category, as opposed to flooding the Parts for Sale category.

  • Do not list your email address in your ad. We will remove it.

  • If you do not have access to post in our Classifieds, you are not to have someone else post for you, nor are you to post something for another member who does not have access.

  • List your ad once and let it automatically expire after 30 days. Do not re-post the same ad for the same product until after the first ad has expired. Do not delete your ad and re-list that same ad more often than once every two weeks, and only do so if the listing is significantly different than it was the first time you listed it - again, we don't want people bumping their ads. Supporting Freelancers can delete ads and repost no more than once every week.

  • Do not post Classified Ads in the tech forums. They will be removed.

  • No Group Buy posts or commercial advertisements in the Classifieds or any of the other forums, period (vendors must contact us for special privileges). This is a private party classifieds forum for individuals to sell their personal items, not businesses to promote their products/services - this excludes the Freelancer section. Vendors/shops should also refrain from promoting their products in the WTB (Wanted to Buy) category. Vendors should not use this section as an opportunity to market their products they sell commercially to our members - they are to use our Vendor forum for that. The only commercial posts in our Classifieds should be posted in the Freelancer section by Supporting Freelancers.

    "Vendor" is defined as: anyone who sells parts for a profit on an ongoing basis. If you're buying and selling parts or cars for profit, and it's your primary source of income, you are a vendor. If it's a secondary source of income, you are a Freelancer. If we determine you are a vendor, and are posting your parts for sale in our Classifieds forum, we will ask you to comply with the rules and may restrict your access on our site if you ignore our request.

  • Transactions are your responsibility, not that of DSMtuners. We will not be liable for any losses as a result of your transaction, nor will we assist in tracking down a fraudulent party, nor will we ban a user at your request. Do not contact us asking us to help you resolve an issue with a buyer or seller. We recommend that you use an escrow service like Escrow.com to help prevent a fraudulent transaction and do as much research on the Buyer/Seller as possible. Resolve all transaction issues outside of our forums. And follow all of the advice given here when buying or selling things online: Tips for buying/selling online

  • No complaints should be posted about buyers and sellers in the classifieds section or anywhere else on our site. You are to use the Buyer/Seller Rating feature in the User Profile area to tell people about your dealings with another member. It is your responsibility to resolve transactions offline. Probationary Members are not able to use this feature. We strongly suggest you become a Proven Member before using our Classifieds system - and we also suggest you avoid entering into a transaction with a Probationary Member (or be extremely cautious before doing so).

    From time to time we will go through the Buyer/Seller Ratings ourselves and will look for trends. If we find too many negative ratings for a particular member or if we receive an alert from Moderators or Admins from another community site, we may choose to restrict a member's access to our site (or our Classifieds) in the interest of keeping our community safer. We'll take care of it on our own though, no need to post public complaints in our forums or notify our site leaders.

  • If you've posted an ad, and the parts have been sold, please edit your your ad and delete it.

    Most transactions will likely turn out fine, but protect yourself and don't be naive. There are some people out there trying to make a quick buck by ripping people off. Take every precaution possible when doing business with other people online. If you experience any errors with the Classifieds system, you can post about it in the Site Feedback Forum.

About the Buyer/Seller Feedback System
This feedback system is meant to be used for all transactions between members of our site by way of our Classifieds section. Probationary Members are not able to use this feature. Every DSMtuners member has a Buyer/Seller feedback rating which is displayed as a numeric rating in their Profile. If you click on the number, you're taken to a page displaying comments from other members they've bought from, sold to, or traded with.

For example: Bob (12) means that the DSMtuners member with the user name Bob has received positive feedback from at least 12 other site members.

This system is only to be used for private party transactions - not transactions that involve a parts retailer or service provider. If you want to leave feedback for a vendor, you can do so here.

How it works
The feedback rating system is easy. You receive:
+1 point for each positive comment
0 points for each neutral comment
-1 point for each negative comment. Ratings and comments will not be removed or adjusted for anyone due to complaints. If we determine there is clear evidence of a fraudulent claim, we'll consider taking action on our own. Do not request us to take action just because someone gave you a negative rating, as we will do so only if we see fit.

When to check a users' rating
Before you send money to a member, the buyer may want to check the seller's feedback rating by viewing their Profile (clicking on their name). Sellers may also want to view the feedback profiles of potential buyers to see how reliable they've been in the past. Ratings and comments will not be removed or adjusted for anyone due to complaints. Again, if we determine there is clear evidence of a fraudulent claim, we'll consider taking action on our own.

How to leave a rating
After you make a sale, purchase, or trade, remember to leave feedback for the DSMtuners member you bought from or sold to, via their Profile page. This helps everyone in the community know what it's like to deal with that member and can potentially prevent fraudulent transactions (but is not guaranteed). Be sure to leave a descriptive title for the feedback and a detailed description about the transaction, especially if it was a bad experience.

If someone leaves you negative feedback that you feel is inaccurate, DO NOT simply retaliate by leaving them negative feedback. Instead, reply to the feedback left for you and give your side of the story. However, if you had a bad dealing with that member, you can still leave them negative feedback. But the comments must give details about the transaction. If the feedback looks like it is nothing more than retaliation, it may be removed. We will not remove negative feedback for any other reason - in some cases, if the member leaving the feedback requests the feedback they left for a member be changed, we will do so. This means that if you receive negative feedback that you feel is inaccurate, your only recourse is to reply to it.

Notes:
Leave one rating per transaction. Giving false or inaccurate ratings and information will get you banned from DSMtuners. If we suspect someone is creating fake accounts (which is prohibited anyway) in order to give themselves positive feedback or negative feedback to others they will be banned without warning. If you have clear evidence that a user has given a fraudulent rating/feedback to another member, bring it to the attention of our Moderating team. We might not remove any comments or ratings at the request of a member complaint but we will certainly look into the situation. If you receive a bad rating, you will be able to leave your own reply on the negative comment by clicking on the comment and clicking the reply button. The reply feature is only to be used to give your side of the story for the negative rating. We constantly monitor the Hall of Shame section of the Buyer/Seller Ratings page here, and so should you.

In addition to using this buyer/seller rating feature, we recommend that everyone use an escrow service and check other DSM/classified sites to research the person they're trading with. Be sure you get phone numbers, addresses, references, and other important personal information before sending money or parts to anyone. If you do not, you are begging to be ripped off. Our buyer/seller feature should not be your sole source of assurance and should not be heavily relied upon. It is only meant to be used as a complimentary tool. DSMtuners will not be responsible for any loss due to our Classifieds section, and all members should use this service at their own risk. We also will not assist anyone in tracking down fraudulent parties, lost money or parts. Please don't contact us asking us to help in your transaction. It is YOUR responsiblity to take all necessary precautions before entering into a deal, and your responsibility to investigate and act on any fraud that you encounter. Use this Feedback System and if we find that any user receives more than a few bad ratings, we'll revoke their Classifieds privileges. Please do not contact us asking us to ban a user who ripped you off - leave them a negative rating to help warn others. The bad seeds will be weeded out on their own in time.

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