01-29-2007, 12:07 PM
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Forced Performance Race Manifold!
The perfect compliment to your DSM turbocharger is our BRAND NEW FPRACE MANI!
This manifold gives you an option besides the typical EVO3 manifold when making the selection for your beloved DSM. In the past you had your choice of 1G, 2G, or EVO3 cast iron exhaust manifolds. But even though you had three to pick from, they were pretty much all the same. All of them had to be ported to perfectly match the 60mm collector diameter found on all performance DSM turbochargers. And all of them somehow expect the exhaust gas to make a drastic 90 degree turn just prior to entering the turbine housing volute. On top of that, cyl #1 and cyl #4 are blowing directly into each other in all three of the OEM options for exhaust manifold.
Well, that is all in the past now. Our BRAND NEW manifold, the "FPRace Mani", is a high quality investment cast manifold that actually has a full collector built right into it. Now you can have a strong cast manifold that acts like a header. Now you can benefit from having all 4 runners pointing straight down the throat of the turbine housing volute. This is the first ever DSM exhaust manifold to incorporate a true 4 into 1 collector. On top of that the manifold only weighs 11 pounds! the EVO3 manifold I weighed at the same time weighed over 17 lbs. This means that running a FPRace Mani and a FP30 turbine housing can save you over 12lbs in dead weight since the FP30 housing also 6+ pounds lighter than a typical turbine housing.
Additionally, the interior surface of the collector and the FP30 housing interior surface are tangent to each other at the manifold/turbine housing interface. No odd angle, just smooth interior flow from the manifold into the turbine housing. Almost as if they were made to run together
We are sponsoring the Time attack car of Ludachris from the board here with the FPRace Mani and our brand new FP3150 turbocharger (dual bb 50trim stage 3 turbine w/ T04E cover) that will debut within the next 2 weeks, keep a look out for that one! I’m sure he will be happy to share pics and impressions once that time attack car is together.
Now down to the GB info. What we'd like to do is offer this FPRace Mani at a hot low introductory price of $249, that's $50 off the expected street price of $299. Don't freak out, we realize that $299 is already a crazy low price for an item like this, but $249 is even crazier and if you are doing a GB you need a crazy price right? The black ceramic coating (not pictured) will be an extra $75 for those of you interested in coatings.
We will accept advance GB orders for the FPRace Mani starting now. We expect the first batch of the manifolds to be in stock and ready to ship sometime in March. The GB purchases for the FPRace Mani will be filled out of this first production batch of manifolds.
To get in on the GB email Amber@forcedperformance.net and place your order.
The samples are in hand. Some are being coated and fitted to some high profile cars to get some cool installed pics to show, for now I can share a few pics of the manifold not installed. Here goes...
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01-29-2007, 12:26 PM
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Any chance on them having a 38mm wastegate flange on the #1?
Thats going to be my only reservation from swiping my credit card right here and now.
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01-29-2007, 01:44 PM
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Sorry, no single runner wastegate flanges on our manifold. People still do that?
What happens if you need to WG more than 25% of the flow out of the motor to hold motor down to a certain boost? Does that mean that some of the flow from the 3 other runners has to travel backwards down the #1 runner in order to get out of the WG? That is rhetorical of course, do not attempt to answer, we all know how poor of a solution that truly is.
This manifold is designed to support the FP30 turbos, and they all have integral WG ports made into the turbine housing so that WG flow can be drawn equally from all runners. Of course most turbos are made this way with internal gates, and any of those will work rather well with this manifold.
well, back to the lab.
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01-29-2007, 01:54 PM
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Will this be an exact OE fitment replacement? I have a 1G and will be puttig on an EVO3 16G. Everything like the downpipe etc will all matchup and fit the same placement wise as OE?
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01-29-2007, 05:15 PM
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Where would one install a singel EGT and lambda sensor especially if using a FP matching turbo ?
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01-29-2007, 06:11 PM
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I don't know of anyone that puts wideband sensor in their exhaust manifold.. most do it in the downpipe. EGT you could just tap into the manifold like everyone else does on manis that don't come prethreaded.
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01-29-2007, 10:28 PM
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Hoooooooooooooly crap! Goodbye EvoIII, hello FP! Very nice work and from the looks of it, it's not going to need a $50 or $100 "porting" job like someone elses cast manifold (which is real nice of them since they can cast it "as ported" from the get-go). Awesome! The only thing I would improve on or ask for would be for you guys to come up with a heat-shield of some sort to fit over that thing. Just make an affordable stainless one and I'm sure it'll sell well with the manifold.
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01-29-2007, 10:40 PM
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Perfect timing. Now i can have a complete FP turbo system. I want to get in on the group buy but i wish to purcahse a complete 3065 system as well and would like everything shipped out to me at once. how would i go about doing all of that? thanks
- Jose
PS: I know it's not til march which is perfect, do we need to pay for the mani up front? deposit? thanks
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01-29-2007, 10:58 PM
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I am not trying to speak for FP in any way, but to me it looks like those dimples right behind where you bolt it to the head are there for the purpose of drilling/tapping an egt probe....
but like I said, just my observation...
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01-29-2007, 11:26 PM
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I am not trying to speak for FP in any way, but to me it looks like those dimples right behind where you bolt it to the head are there for the purpose of drilling/tapping an egt probe....
but like I said, just my observation...
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That would put the egt sensor too close to the head
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01-29-2007, 11:54 PM
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this looks likes a very good mani!!! im buying a PF3065 soon well in about a month or so and the manifold to go with it hot dam! One quez if u where to port the mani and turbo would it help on t-lag?
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01-30-2007, 12:01 AM
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I was wondering about collector placement, is it in the same location as stock? I've heard you need to run a spacer with the FP3065 & the stock exhaust mani, is this true & will it still be required with this manifold?
I will be placing an order for one of your FP30 setup in the next couple weeks from one of your distributors. If I descide to run one of these can I add one of these to my order as well & get the intro price or does it have to be direct? (prefer from the distributor because of shipping)
One other thing, are there any warranty on cracking if so what & how long? The last cast manifold I bought from a well know vendor on here had several cracks within 6 months of use  .
Judgeing by the finish & size, I would say no porting required 
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01-30-2007, 12:28 AM
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Being one of the few to have held this beautiful peice of steel in his hands, I must say that for a mitsu flanged mani, it is a dream come true. This is designed (from what I gathered from Robert) to be a direct replacement for the OEM manifold but to flow a lot more than OEM to better support the FP series turbochargers. Guys, jump on this deal. The flange is also angled slightly to provide clearance away from the waterpipe for S-type compressor housings.
Thank you, Robert, for finally making an affordable, properly designed aftermarket manifold.
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01-30-2007, 08:28 AM
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After re-reading the product description what is this manifold cast from, stainless like your turbine housings or iron/alloy?
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01-30-2007, 10:41 AM
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After re-reading the product description what is this manifold cast from, stainless like your turbine housings or iron/alloy?
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It is a high Ni iron alloy, much like the evo turbine housings.
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01-30-2007, 11:56 AM
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high nickle is what marine blocks are made from,
that means less rust when used with saltwater cooling,
cheaper than stainless to make right?
any chance there will be a stainless manifold on the way?!
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01-30-2007, 12:12 PM
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I must say that for a mitsu flanged mani, it is a dream come true. This is designed (from what I gathered from Robert) to be a direct replacement for the OEM manifold but to flow a lot more than OEM to better support the FP series turbochargers. Guys, jump on this deal. The flange is also angled slightly to provide clearance away from the waterpipe for S-type compressor housings.
Thank you, Robert, for finally making an affordable, properly designed aftermarket manifold.
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Ditto. Boosted98gsx is right. This thing WITH the ex. housing on it weighed as much as just my current Manifold. And it's even prettier in person. Yall better get in line, because there are at least a dozen of us down here that saw the quality up close and personal and are wanting to pick it up.
Thanks for bringing it by Rob!
-Jeff
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01-30-2007, 12:13 PM
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I really like the manifold idea, but I dont see what advantages if any will be seen from switching from a ported 2g mani or evo 3 mani to this one? I believe alot more people would be interested in this product if there was a flange tapped for a 38mm tial or something of this sort, which would give some people a "reason" to purchase this item as it would be a quick, great alternative to goto an externally gated setup.
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01-30-2007, 12:25 PM
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It is a high Ni iron alloy, much like the evo turbine housings.
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Ah, so it will end up looking like the 1G, 2G, and EVO mani's then after a bit, if only they had a heatshield to cover it up! Any possibility of this happening or is that just a pipe-dream, I didn't see any provisions on it for bolting anything like that to the manifold.
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01-30-2007, 01:40 PM
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Do you guys plan on ever offering this item as a t3/t4 or t4 bolt option or will it always be mitsu?
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