I highly doubt it unless you had it custom made...
What turbo (hx only): hx35 kinda.. WH1C
Miles on turbo:500 at 24psi
Size of return:3/4 oil resist hose, 2g oil return line on pan and t3 oil drain on turbo
Size of oil line:-4an with no restrictor
Fed from:OFH
Restictor and color:none
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WH1C w/ .55ar BEP
This is good to hear. I've run Royal Purple since I bought the car. My next question is should I leave the ports on the sandwich cooler open to atmosphere, or should I plug them closed?
As long as the coolant tubes entering the sandwhich filter are blocked you won't have an issue with leaving these open or closed. Leaving them open might help you determine if you ever have any issues with the filter housing becoming crushed over time and leaking oil.
coolant fed oil coolers are designed to heat up the oil on cold starts and to help keep oil at a semi constant temperature so its not to erratic while driving. Being coolant cooled also helps keep oil coking to a minimum however its still common practice to idle the engine for a short period of time before shut down.
Question on oil feed lines- Alot of people run a line from the OFH with a restictor but were can I get the ss line to feed it from the head? I figured this way it would be cleaner looking and I may not have to rely on a restrictor. I know these lines have been produced but I can't seem to find them
Obviously I would still need a gauge hooked up temporarily to check for pressure but being as mitsubishi made it this way from the factory I would like to keep it this way.
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92parts car
90tsi awd
96tsi wifes
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As long as the coolant tubes entering the sandwhich filter are blocked you won't have an issue with leaving these open or closed. Leaving them open might help you determine if you ever have any issues with the filter housing becoming crushed over time and leaking oil.
coolant fed oil coolers are designed to heat up the oil on cold starts and to help keep oil at a semi constant temperature so its not to erratic
Ok so I am going to leave the ports open and loop the coolant line at the block.
i will be running an hx-55 on my 2.3 stroker. my current issue is the fact that the hx-55 has a t6 exhaust housing. does anyone have a spare hx-40 turbine housing? i will have plenty of feedback on this turbo.
i will be running an hx-55 on my 2.3 stroker. my current issue is the fact that the hx-55 has a t6 exhaust housing. does anyone have a spare hx-40 turbine housing? i will have plenty of feedback on this turbo.
Wish I could help, I have a hx-35 exhaust housing from an automatic cummins that I would like to sell
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92tsi fwd
92parts car
90tsi awd
96tsi wifes
What size flange, and what CM specifically? I'll have to see what I have (if any)- I just sent a pile of them to the scrap yard although most of those weren't in very good shape.
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~Justin~ '92 TSi FWD, '93 TSi AWD, '97 Eclipse GS
i will be running an hx-55 on my 2.3 stroker. my current issue is the fact that the hx-55 has a t6 exhaust housing. does anyone have a spare hx-40 turbine housing? i will have plenty of feedback on this turbo.
I have a 19cm t4 hx40 turbine housing. It was pulled off a brand new hx40. It is pretty damn heavy.
i will be running an hx-55 on my 2.3 stroker. my current issue is the fact that the hx-55 has a t6 exhaust housing. does anyone have a spare hx-40 turbine housing? i will have plenty of feedback on this turbo.
Went to AMS last thursday to get some numbers on the bolt-on hx40 with a stock intake on 39psi... Everything was the same as it always is but first pull everything was fine until about 5k and the black let off and nothing but oil was burning. I haven't took it out to look at it but I can tell you that the nut for the compressor wheel was laying in the intake right before the turbo... Has anyone heard of this happening with any turbo and if so what could cause it? So I'm pretty sure the turbine wheel and housing are done for... On the positive I think I made 422whp right around 5k before the turbo went...
Well I got this going on tomorrow. Holset hx40/35 hybrid on the t3 stock 12cm holset housing. Im looking forward to it. I bought Ecm link to tune with and a Dyna Tek arc-2 for a good ignition. Im really looking forward to get it moving. http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...428/behold.jpg
This is good to hear. I've run Royal Purple since I bought the car. My next question is should I leave the ports on the sandwich cooler open to atmosphere, or should I plug them closed?
You can remove the cooler completely by buying a new stud for the oil filter housing. You can get it at a Mazda dealer. part number # b630-10-319. It's only $10 and it will free up like 2" of clearance for you DP.
KP116, so sorry to hear. Was that turbo rebuilt? Maybe the improper amount of torque was applied to the nut? ???
Did anyone happen to pull the intake pipe before the run?
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i will be running an hx-55 on my 2.3 stroker. my current issue is the fact that the hx-55 has a t6 exhaust housing. does anyone have a spare hx-40 turbine housing? i will have plenty of feedback on this turbo.
There are several runnig the hx55. It does not have a t6 bolt pattern. It has a bolt pattern similar to a t4 but jsut a LITTLE bit wider. These guys are enlarging the holes on their divided runner t4 exhasut manifolds and the turbo bolts right up.
I'm 99% sure the hx5* series turbos connect the turbine housing to the CHRA via v-band attachment. So you can't use an hx40 turbine housing. Havn't seen one in about a year though.
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dd '90 GST, Holset H1C
There are several runnig the hx55. It does not have a t6 bolt pattern. It has a bolt pattern similar to a t4 but jsut a LITTLE bit wider. These guys are enlarging the holes on their divided runner t4 exhasut manifolds and the turbo bolts right up.
I thought the HX50 series was T6 and it's the HE351VE series that the T4 was close but needed modified to work? Biglady112 could rightly answer this.
I thought the HX50 series was T6 and it's the HE351VE series that the T4 was close but needed modified to work? Biglady112 could rightly answer this.
Biglady like myself runs hx52's. Hx55 can be had in the same htside as the hx52 which is what some have called a T5 to make it easy. It's only slighlt smaller than a t4 and can be easily made to mate to a t4 manifold which is what we're all doing.
well I got it on. This compressor housing is a monstor compared to my old one. Im going to read up on ecm link tonight and fire it up tomorrow. Here is some pics!!!
It looks like your wastegate isn't mounted all the way. Unless you're just mocking it up. I do like to see this though as it shows me what mine will look like
KP116, so sorry to hear. Was that turbo rebuilt? Maybe the improper amount of torque was applied to the nut? ???
Did anyone happen to pull the intake pipe before the run?
There are several runnig the hx55. It does not have a t6 bolt pattern. It has a bolt pattern similar to a t4 but jsut a LITTLE bit wider. These guys are enlarging the holes on their divided runner t4 exhasut manifolds and the turbo bolts right up.
I'm 99% sure the hx5* series turbos connect the turbine housing to the CHRA via v-band attachment. So you can't use an hx40 turbine housing. Havn't seen one in about a year though.
I bought it off ebay and the guy said it was barely used like 1000 miles max. I believe what he said because it was very clean when I got it. So from my knowledge I don't think it was rebuilt.
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Does anyone have pics of it mounted on their 2g? Just looking to see exactly how tight this thing is going to be against the water pipe.
My buddy has a hx35/bolt-on housing with a fp manifold on his 2gb gsx and he needed to dent the water pipe.
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The 8blade hx35 has a 56mm compressor inducer. This is found on 1995-1998 cummins manual pickups. The compressor flows 52 lb/min according to the compressor map. The bolton BEP housing (0.55 a/r) is enough to push the limit of the compressor. There's several 500whp 8blade hx35 cars out there with the bolt on housing. It reaches 20+psi by 3500rpms in 3rd with 272 cams. Smaller cams would equal a faster spool speed in most cases.
The 7blade hx35 has a 56mm compressor inducer. This is found on the 1999-2002 cummins manual pickups. The compressor flows 60lb/min according to the compressor map and logged results from a member here. The bolton BEP housing with the hx35 turbine wheel do not SEAM to have enough flow to really reach the potential of 60lb/min. But many have logged over 50lb/min so far and seen 500whp. The stock hx35 12cm^2 twinscroll turbine housing is a t3 flange housing. This mated to a NON-divided runner manifold has produced a 132mph trap speed with a full weight 1g AWD. This is about 600whp. So the flow is there with the stock housing if you use a non-divided manifold. The spool speed of the 7blade hx35 is similar to the 8blade hx35 with 20+ psi by 3500rpms in the bolton housing and by 4000rpms with the stock housing with a non-divided manifold.
HY35:
The hy35 has a smaller turbine wheel than the hx35. And, it has a turbine housing connection that does not allow for a bolton housing to be used. It does not have a divided housing so any t3 manifold can be used effectively with this turbo. It has the same compressor as the 7blade hx35. We don't know if te hy35 turbine wheel and housing is enough to reache the 60lb/min potential of the 56mm 7blade compressor. Some one try it out already!!! It should at least be a faster spooling viable option to the full t3/t4 50-trim.
H1C/WH1C:
In 1994, there was the Wh1c which has pretty much the identical compressor as the hx35 but with a Vband compressor cover. The turbine wheel is the same. It will bolt into the BEP bolton hx35 turbine housing. It has 4 bolts at the housing instead of 6. So you will need to buy 2 more bolts and use 6 washers cut to make a flat side. Honestly, I just used bolts that were cut a little short and the bolt head was wide enough to pull the chra to the turbine housing. No sealing issues. Since the Wh1c is for all practical purposes an 8blade hx35 the spool and flow is the same too.
I have the big h1c. It comes on the INTERCOOLED 1991-1993 cummins pickups. It has the webbing for MWE but no groove cut like the hx35/wh1c has. This turbo I term the big h1c because it has a 54mm compressor inducer and same exducer than the 8blade hx35/Wh1c. The other h1c is the small h1c found on the NON-intercooled cummins pickups. This has a 50mm inducer but only 7blades and has no webbing for MWE. Less blades helps flow, but so does a larger inducer diameter. The most whp ever recorded on a gas 4cylinder with the small h1c was done on a KA24 nissan: 411whp. Since the big h1c has a 4mm larger inducer and the same turbine wheel as the hx35, it is safe to say that it flows enough for between 411whp and 500whp. The diesel sources state that it flows SLIGHTLY less than the early hx35. So 4lb/min less than the 8blade hx35 puts the flow of the big h1c at 48-49lb/min right where a 50-trim or 20g is. The small bep housing is all that's needed to get the most from the compressor and the spool speed is 20+psi by 3500rpms.
HX35-40 hybrid:
Keeping the long tradition of the marriage of sportcompact and hybrid turbos, there is the hx35 turbine and the hx40 compressor. It is strongly recommended to use the large bep turbine housing or the stock hx35 turbine housing with an non-divided t3 manifold for this turbo. The small bep housing around a t31 size hx35 turbine wheel is probably not enough to merit any of the hx40 compressor wheel upgrades. 20+ psi by 4000rpms can be seen in the hx35/40 with the hx35 12cm^2 turbine housing with a non-divided t3 manifold. With the large bep housing, spool times are to be determined. But likely similar.
HX40:
The 8blade hx40 has a 58mm inducer and flows about the same as a 60-1 (around 60lb/min) with ALOT better high boost efficiency and spool speed. It is the most common hx40 out there. The small bep housing with the hx40 turbine wheel is plenty to reach the full potential of the 60lb/min 8blade hx40 compressor. 20+ psi by 4100rpms with 272s.
The 7 and 6 blade hx40 is called the super40 and has the 60mm compressor inducer. This compressor flows around 69lb/min. You can get this wheel in billet style (think HTA). The non-billet wheel spools as fast as the 8blade hx40 in the bolton bep housing and has done 653whp at 40psi per the holset results only thread. Billet should spool even faster. The t3 .70 a/r BEP housing slows spool about 400rpms. But reports show a significant gain in flow per psi. So expect more power at lower boost with that turbine housing.
H1E/WH1E:
The Wh1e is like it's little brother the Wh1c. It mirrors the hx40 8blade in every way except that it has a v-band compressor cover and a 4bolt chra-turbinehousing pattern. It will consequently bolt into the hx40 bep bolton turbine housing and this is plenty of flow to max out its 60lb/min compressor.
The h1e is like it's little brother the h1c. There are different size compressors. . . BUT there are also different size turbine wheels too. Check measurements before buying this turbo if you plan on running a BEP turbine housing. There are lower flowing compressors than the 58mm 8blade that are out there. So this turbo may not flow any more than an hx35 if get the wrong one. You need at least a 58mm compressor inducer for this to be a worthwhile turbo vs the proven hx35 or 8blade hx40.
HX52:
This is a big sucker. It is commonly found on the Volvo Semis and usually has a billet compressor wheel. It flows 88lb/min. There is no bolt on housing for it. If you want a bolton housing for this turbo, then you don't want this turbo. In fact if you want a t3 flange turbine housing for this turbo, then you don't want this turbo. You DO want this turbo if you're looking at a gt4294r or gt4202r. The turbine inlet is slightly different than a t4 bolt pattern. You can still get the t4 manifold to work just fine by enlarging the bolt holes.
Misc.:
Holset's don't spool slow. They spool faster than their garrett or mitsubishi counterparts. Diesel exhaust is cold and slow moving.
The holset turbine wheel is a work of art. It has been shown to flow very well in a very small turbine housing. For example the hx40 turbine wheel in the small .55 ar bep bolton housing flows as much as a garrett gt35r turbine wheel in a larger .63 ar garrett t3 turbine housing. The hx40 with this configuration spools about 500rpms faster! You can upgrade to the .70 a/r BEP t3 turbine housing and have the same or slightly faster spool speed as the above gt35r with ALOT more flow per psi and consequently more horsepower per psi. This makes for VERY good pumpgas numbers.
Holset patented map width enhancement. They do not have extended tip technology, but there compressors show more efficiency than their garrett or mitsubishi counterpart.
They have superback technology witch leads to VERY, VERY durable compressors. The are designed to be overworked and underpaid.
There are discrepancies all over the web concerning the compressor maps. Take what you hear/read with a grain of salt and a shot of tequila, and the worm.
The holset is fine with stock 4g63 oil pressure from the oil filter housing. If you have no b shafts, you'll need a restrictor. The drain line is a garret bolt pattern. The feed line is different for different turbos.
It should at least be a faster spooling viable option to the full t3/t4 50-trim.
