Where would I go about getting my hands on an HX40 with the billet wheel?
And what would you guys recommend for a turbo to make 600-650 AWHP? HX40 pro,s362ett or s366 ett? I am running a t3 manifold so I need to stay in that area. I have full supporting mods to make that kind of power. For the price will an off the shelf hx40 7 blade in the BEP .70 t3 housing almost make that power.
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An 8-blade HX40 60 lbs/mins falls right in between the 30r 52 lbs/mins and 35r 65 lbs/mins power wise yet it spools faster than both of them. If you want to overpower a 35r the 6-blade or 7-blade would do it both power and spool wise.
I would but I already have a BEP housing 8-blade HX40 sitting next to my bed
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Josh
Holset Hx40 powered in '09
Well, 1FAST2G made a 139.03 mph pass with 2760lb race weight. That's 580whp. 33psi at peak hp with a his street tune, and stock 6bolt. His dyno obviously reads low. . .
This is using the 8blade hx40 compressor, stock 7.8 pistons, and bolton housing with portmatched 2g manifold !
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Matt
dd '90 GST, Holset H1C
That is awesome, actually, I think he mentioned a JMF SMIM and FP2 cams. But this is very impressive. This trap is for 10.2-10.3 pass. My friend ran 10.6@ 136, several times, so I think it is safe, that I made that/about 10.2-3/ assumption.
P.S. 1FAST 2G, do you get enough traction and kind of tires did you use???
We need a better mitsu-flanged o2 housing. The turbine outlet of any of these BEP housings is larger than the inlet of any o2 housing I could find. I'm running an FP manifold so I'm going with external off the o2. I'm using punishment's 38mm recirculated piece but this makes for a step down from the turbine housing to o2. Also the recirculation tube comes back into the exhaust path at about a 90* angle, further disrupting flow. I'd love to use this eBay Motors: 95-99 Eclipse 2G DSM 46MM WG O2 Housing Dump Pipe 4G63 (item 260364826242 end time Feb-26-09 00:26:28 PST) o2 but I already have a 38mm gate. Should I be concerned about the o2 being a bottleneck? Your running about the exact same thing Matt, what do you think?
That is awesome, actually, I think he mentioned a JMF SMIM and FP2 cams. But this is very impressive. This trap is for 10.2-10.3 pass. My friend ran 10.6@ 136, several times, so I think it is safe, that I made that/about 10.2-3/ assumption.
P.S. 1FAST 2G, do you get enough traction and kind of tires did you use???
Overall excellent work !!!
Oh there is still more in this. The turbo was flowing 3lb/min less than the map shows at 60%. Not many guys run such low timing with e-85 with such low compression, too! On the link forums he said that he just rolled on the dyno with his street tune and that is his results. No dyno tuning. It's not like he could push it much more with stock rods and pistons.
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Matt
dd '90 GST, Holset H1C
P.S. 1FAST 2G, do you get enough traction and kind of tires did you use???
Overall excellent work !!!
That day at the track I didn't get my run in till about 5:45pm and the track was cold. I usually do a small burn out in the water box and this helps get my 60's down into the 1.7's and sometimes 1.6's. I didn't do one this time though cause my car was leaking coolant out of the overflow the first time I went up to run and they didn't let me run. So since this was the last pass for the day I didn't want to do a burn out and push coolant out.
I'm running 225 45 17 kumho mx's. The car has a JM stret smim and fp2's. I didn't do no tunning on the dyno cause I felt that 534hp was enough for the stock rods and pistons.
I know the car has mid 10's in it at least once I get some drag radials and a better shifting tranny. This trans is notchy. When the car is off I can't shift through the gears with out using the clutch, thats how notchy it is.
That day at the track I didn't get my run in till about 5:45pm and the track was cold. I usually do a small burn out in the water box and this helps get my 60's down into the 1.7's and sometimes 1.6's. I didn't do one this time though cause my car was leaking coolant out of the overflow the first time I went up to run and they didn't let me run. So since this was the last pass for the day I didn't want to do a burn out and push coolant out.
I'm running 225 45 17 kumho mx's. The car has a JM stret smim and fp2's. I didn't do no tunning on the dyno cause I felt that 534hp was enough for the stock rods and pistons.
I know the car has mid 10's in it at least once I get some drag radials and a better shifting tranny. This trans is notchy. When the car is off I can't shift through the gears with out using the clutch, thats how notchy it is.
Yea your car still has a lot left in it, especially with your current bolt ons.
Good numbers, and your race weight is 2760? Is that with driver, I cant imagen it being that low on a 2g unless its seriously gutted, that even a good deal lighter than my Laser ( 2850 w/ me in it)... But if so, good stuff.
We need a better mitsu-flanged o2 housing. The turbine outlet of any of these BEP housings is larger than the inlet of any o2 housing I could find. I'm running an FP manifold so I'm going with external off the o2. I'm using punishment's 38mm recirculated piece but this makes for a step down from the turbine housing to o2. Also the recirculation tube comes back into the exhaust path at about a 90* angle, further disrupting flow. I'd love to use this eBay Motors: 95-99 Eclipse 2G DSM 46MM WG O2 Housing Dump Pipe 4G63 (item 260364826242 end time Feb-26-09 00:26:28 PST) o2 but I already have a 38mm gate. Should I be concerned about the o2 being a bottleneck? Your running about the exact same thing Matt, what do you think?
-John
I noticed this too when I matched up my BEP housing with my punishment o2 housing. I am thinking of porting the punishment flange just at a little angle to make the transition a little bit smoother. I'm interested in everyone else's opinions as well.
^^^ that is what I did with my ebay tubular o2 housing. Spool with my turbo is as good as anyone elses, so I assume it's *OK*. Anything that will help here will really help flow. It's a big deal, and I don't like settling with radiusing the entry to the o2 housing.
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dd '90 GST, Holset H1C
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Yea your car still has a lot left in it, especially with your current bolt ons.
Good numbers, and your race weight is 2760? Is that with driver, I cant imagen it being that low on a 2g unless its seriously gutted, that even a good deal lighter than my Laser ( 2850 w/ me in it)... But if so, good stuff.
Yea it is seriously gutted. Still all factory panels and glass. Still on the stock power leather seat. The car weighs 2520 and I weigh 240.
All sound deadening removed. No stereo or speakers. no sway bars, no exhaust (just stock DP). Door bars removed. No power anything. custom rewired to only have head lights, parking lights, brake lights and a horn. Main wiring harness stripped down to only bare essentials. heat shielding from the drive shaft tunnel removed. All un needed metal from the trunk removed. No wipers, no wing. Thats all the stuff I can think of off the top of my head.
So im gonna pick up my hx35 tomorrow for 150bucks the guy is throwing the used for 150 and a spare hx35 for parts! So thats 2 of them for 150
Has anybody ordered a DSM housing recently from anybody? Anyone know if theyre still available?
Ill post some pics for you guys when i get back.
Haha I saw this same ad on craigslist, and I was sooo tempted to give him a call, but I really want a HX40, so I didn't want to settle even though that HX35 - with the "spare parts turbo" included - was a steal. Good stuff man
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E3 16G 25PSI E85 - 95 TSI
My hx-52 build is just getting underway. I ordered my rotating assembly last week from magnus motorsports. I got their 2.4l long rod billet kit. It will use their custom 9:1 pistons, aluminum rods, and crankshaft. Hopefully the added displacement and the better rod ratio will allow me to spool this monster faster and rev higher to give me a nice powerband.
The next item I plan on purchasing is a manifold, but I am not sure what would work best. I am thinking about the shearer top mount, but I am worried about fit and clearance with my 2g. Do any of you hx52 guys have any info on that?
For anyone looking for Bolt on Housings. Theturbotrader is taking pre orders. That way you will know you will be getting on. You will need to call in to get your name on the list. There are only going to be 25 housings made and that covers both the HX35 and HX40.
My hx-52 build is just getting underway. I ordered my rotating assembly last week from magnus motorsports. I got their 2.4l long rod billet kit. It will use their custom 9:1 pistons, aluminum rods, and crankshaft. Hopefully the added displacement and the better rod ratio will allow me to spool this monster faster and rev higher to give me a nice powerband.
The next item I plan on purchasing is a manifold, but I am not sure what would work best. I am thinking about the shearer top mount, but I am worried about fit and clearance with my 2g. Do any of you hx52 guys have any info on that?
Thanks,
Justin
If you plan on running a hx52 and a top mount with that kinda engine setup fabricating better be something you ca get done or know how to do because some parts will have to be one off to make the setup run right. If you do sounds like you will have a real nice setup
Something tells me that demand will go up by mid season
Finally, after years it is good to see Holsets are moving again...
The O2 housings for the Mitsu bolt-on ideally are two:
-EVO3 O2, which is bigger than 2G and when ported can get much bigger than 63-64mm exducer of turbine wheel.
- Punishment racing used to make 3" O2 housing, they probably will make another, if someone requests. The only problem with that is because of the 3" size, the other part of the O2 housing, where usually external WG is mounted OFF the housing is too small and might not be big enough to relieve/divert the desired amount of exhaust gases. If you have your WG OFF the manifold, you are golden, if not, Evo3 O2 housing is your best bet guys.
If you plan on running a hx52 and a top mount with that kinda engine setup fabricating better be something you ca get done or know how to do because some parts will have to be one off to make the setup run right. If you do sounds like you will have a real nice setup
Right now, my main concern is with the manifold/downpipe setup. I'm not dead set on the top mount. I am also looking at the JHR manifold. I think once I get that worked out, either myself or a local machine shop can handle the rest. There is a lot of work to be done though.
Right now, my main concern is with the manifold/downpipe setup. I'm not dead set on the top mount. I am also looking at the JHR manifold. I think once I get that worked out, either myself or a local machine shop can handle the rest. There is a lot of work to be done though.
amen to that. It's even harder to do all that while trying to not sacraficing streetability. That's why I'm trying to sell my kirkey because the gf isn't a big fan of the aluminum seat with cover
Haha I saw this same ad on craigslist, and I was sooo tempted to give him a call, but I really want a HX40, so I didn't want to settle even though that HX35 - with the "spare parts turbo" included - was a steal. Good stuff man
I thought it was a damn good deal especially for two of them, I can sell one if needed too. I called the guy as soon as I saw them, im going to pick them up today.
I thought it was a damn good deal especially for two of them, I can sell one if needed too. I called the guy as soon as I saw them, im going to pick them up today.
Definitely, I hope they work out for you.
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I thought it was a damn good deal especially for two of them, I can sell one if needed too. I called the guy as soon as I saw them, im going to pick them up today.
So would it be the good one for half of what you payed? Or would it be the bad one for less then half since it needs rebuilt.
Finally, after years it is good to see Holsets are moving again...
The O2 housings for the Mitsu bolt-on ideally are two:
-EVO3 O2, which is bigger than 2G and when ported can get much bigger than 63-64mm exducer of turbine wheel.
- Punishment racing used to make 3" O2 housing, they probably will make another, if someone requests. The only problem with that is because of the 3" size, the other part of the O2 housing, where usually external WG is mounted OFF the housing is too small and might not be big enough to relieve/divert the desired amount of exhaust gases. If you have your WG OFF the manifold, you are golden, if not, Evo3 O2 housing is your best bet guys.
Hmm, I have the punishment 2.5 recir o2 housing w/ 38mm external gate right now mounted off the o2 housing. I used to have a Evo3 o2 housing on there, I never considered the punishment piece to hinder flow, I just knew it worked better for controlling, and holding boost to redline, thus were I seen my gains.
Most people are probably doing off the o2 external gates now days, being a lot of people are running Fp manis etc. It would be nice to see a bigger and better flowing o2 housing on the market for those running external gate. I wonder how much your actually loosing though, especially if the rest of the exhaust system is above par.
Also are any of you porting your BEP tubine housings for more flow, or just slapping them on with your hx35s and 40s?
Hmm, I have the punishment 2.5 recir o2 housing w/ 38mm external gate right now mounted off the o2 housing. I used to have a Evo3 o2 housing on there, I never considered the punishment piece to hinder flow, I just knew it worked better for controlling, and holding boost to redline, thus were I seen my gains.
Most people are probably doing off the o2 external gates now days, being a lot of people are running Fp manis etc. It would be nice to see a bigger and better flowing o2 housing on the market for those running external gate. I wonder how much your actually loosing though, especially if the rest of the exhaust system is above par.
Also are any of you porting your BEP tubine housings for more flow, or just slapping them on with your hx35s and 40s?
FP sells 2.5" and 3" o2 housings and they claim no improvement in performance with the 3". But the thing here with the BEP housing and punishment o2 housing is that the BEP outlet flange is larger than the Punishment o2 housing inlet flange, making a step that theoretically causes lots of turbulence. I think the best thing to do is port the Punishment flange just a little bit so there is a gradual decrease in diameter rather than a sudden step.
I believe most people just slap the BEP housing on without porting, as I'd imagine porting a stainless steel housing to be a huge pain.
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the guy is throwing the used for 150 and a spare hx35 for parts! So thats 2 of them for 150
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