FP DSM88HTA First Tune, still alot more to go.

BlackHawkAWD91 · 05-28-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by diambo4life

67mm turbo does not have an on-off switch on a 2.0L. Power onset is very smooth and gradual.

I would like to consider my 67mm on a 2.0L hits pretty hard, but it's a T4 setup with a nice manifold.

From my dyno graph at 31-32psi, I go from 220ishTQ@4200 to 460TQ@4900 (roughly) Also 180HP at 4200, 450@ 4900rpms (roughly).

The FP88HTA should be a badass turbo, but without a doubt put it in a T4 housing.

The_EE · 06-04-2008, 03:38 PM

Hey Boz, is Paul ( white evo ) still there? Tell Al, Jen and Paul that Jason ( Silver GSX ) says hi!

TheBoz · 06-06-2008, 10:29 PM

Here is the dyno Video.

Galant VR4 460AWHP Dyno Video Tuning Technologies

Slippi84 · 06-07-2008, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHawkAWD91

I would like to consider my 67mm on a 2.0L hits pretty hard, but it's a T4 setup with a nice manifold.

From my dyno graph at 31-32psi, I go from 220ishTQ@4200 to 460TQ@4900 (roughly) Also 180HP at 4200, 450@ 4900rpms (roughly).

The FP88HTA should be a badass turbo, but without a doubt put it in a T4 housing.

That must be a stroker cause no way a 67mm turbo in t4 housing spooled that good.

Edit: I just looked at your profile you have 9:1 block I take it that is the reason. Kinda makes me happy to see higher compression has that much of an affect on spool. A lot of people used to argue that the 8:5:1 2g pistons on 1g rods didn't do anything but obviously it does.

diambo4life · 06-07-2008, 06:59 AM

Rob's case is atypical. His setup just spools really well. It will not apply to many 67 setups on 2 liters esp. those with sizable housings. Not .63a/r junk.

It could be the divided housing he's using too. C.R. doesn't really affect spool much. My car gets full spool at the EXACT RPM with the stock 7.8:1 C.R. and the 9:1 it has now on the same setup. That's more than one point increase with no change in spool. Displacement helps a ton though.

Slippi84 · 06-07-2008, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by diambo4life

Rob's case is atypical. His setup just spools really well. It will not apply to many 67 setups on 2 liters esp. those with sizable housings. Not .63a/r junk.

It could be the divided housing he's using too. C.R. doesn't really affect spool much. My car gets full spool at the EXACT RPM with the stock 7.8:1 C.R. and the 9:1 it has now on the same setup. That's more than one point increase with no change in spool. Displacement helps a ton though.

Hmm well I figured he was more the exception than the rule but still that's pretty good spool characteristics no matter how you cut it. I'm going t3 .70ar with my setup trying to keep it street friendly with good top end.

TheBoz · 06-07-2008, 09:13 PM

Also my max timing was 13 degrees at full load and full boost.

Slippi84 · 06-09-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by diambo4life

Rob's case is atypical. His setup just spools really well. It will not apply to many 67 setups on 2 liters esp. those with sizable housings. Not .63a/r junk.

It could be the divided housing he's using too. C.R. doesn't really affect spool much. My car gets full spool at the EXACT RPM with the stock 7.8:1 C.R. and the 9:1 it has now on the same setup. That's more than one point increase with no change in spool. Displacement helps a ton though.

What kinda power increase did you see at the same given boost when you switched?

diambo4life · 06-09-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Slippi84

What kinda power increase did you see at the same given boost when you switched?

Can't say. I only dyno'd the car after. I'm not a big fan of high compression pistons actually. Just got a good deal on these slugs and said "..why not?"

Slippi84 · 06-09-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by diambo4life

Can't say. I only dyno'd the car after. I'm not a big fan of high compression pistons actually. Just got a good deal on these slugs and said "..why not?"

I'm in the same boat. I half regret it actually. But I wouldn't have got even close to as crazy as I have had I not found the deal I did and my deal was for a assembled shortblock so I REALLY couldn't say no. But just from yoru butt dyno do you think the transient response with a big turbo and extra power is noticable or just a waste?

NewTurboTuner · 06-14-2008, 08:58 PM

I think 460 @ 24lbs is pretty good!

I'm very interested to see how the turbo responds at higher boost. I'm getting a GT4088R soon and It'll be cool to see how these compare.

Make sure to keep us updated!

vaboys2ndgen · 06-17-2008, 08:48 AM

Called and talked with FP today will have my mitsu flanged hta88 thursday

TheBoz · 06-17-2008, 09:03 AM

Galant VR4(12.4@115) vs Tacoma

Galant VR4(12.6@115) vs Mustang GT

A few videos of my track runs. The car is still running awesome. The car was only running about 20-22psi, manual boost controllers suck.

California Speed Way (6/14/08)
RT ... 0.166
60' ... 1.883
330 ... 5.326
1/8 ... 8.077
MPH ... 86.68
1000 ... 10.451
1/4 ... 12.420
MPH ... 115.36

And yes I still need to learn how to drive

. It is getting there, everytime to the track the car gets faster.

vaboys2ndgen · 06-17-2008, 10:33 AM

good stuff boz. i can't wait to get mine up and running and hit the track. what happened with the MBC?

TheBoz · 06-17-2008, 07:05 PM

They are very inconsistent. So, the boost bounces from 19.5psi-22.3psi and back an fourth. I have an eletronic one I just have to fix the wiring on it and tune it. I have an 18psi WG Spring in right now, but once it goes above that, the MBC just does not want to keep the boost at 24.5psi. I will get it sorted out, I have bigger things that need adjustment. Like my launch

1.8 60's are ok, but I would like to see the 1.5-1.6 60's. I also need shift faster between gears and setup the NLTS. I should be able to get the traps, and overall et much better.

vaboys2ndgen · 06-18-2008, 12:14 AM

gotcha i'm kinda skeptical to run my turbosmart dual stage MBC now... but i've heard at high boost levels 28+ or so that MBC is the way to go.

bastard dsm · 06-18-2008, 09:04 AM

your mph sould be higher with those #'s, i ran 12.0 @ 119mph with 445hp on my gvr4.
your car sounds good, i was looking into the fp hta but i might go with a bw turbo.

NewTurboTuner · 06-18-2008, 11:00 AM

Is your car full weight TheBoz?

daren_p · 06-18-2008, 02:05 PM

Sounds like its coming along nicely, I wouldn't worry about some of the comments. There's always somebody, who knows somebody who made more power on less boost with a smaller turbo, with one cylinder not running, etc, etc

Add some timing in that tune & I'm sure things will really start to wake up

TheBoz · 06-18-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NewTurboTuner

Is your car full weight TheBoz?

Yep full weight, and I am not a skinny guy by any stretch of the imagination. Hell the car even has the spare tire in the back. However even if I gutted everything out of the car, it would only save me about 100lbs, maybe a little more. So I could say that maybe my car might be 1 10th faster if it was striped down.

TheBoz · 06-18-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by daren_p

Sounds like its coming along nicely, I wouldn't worry about some of the comments. There's always somebody, who knows somebody who made more power on less boost with a smaller turbo, with one cylinder not running, etc, etc

Add some timing in that tune & I'm sure things will really start to wake up

Yep, I get the same stuff on every forum. It is cool, people have there opinion and I respect that. The my car runs 9's at this hp, is good to know also, because I know how far off pace I am. It also means that my car has a lot more ET and Trap speed in it.

I will continue to post all my good runs and bad runs, because I want people to see how my setup runs in the real world. I am not a pro racer, I am a weekend warrior.

Thanks everyone for the feedback so far.

vaboys2ndgen · 06-19-2008, 10:09 AM

Got mine in today. Can anybody figure out the dilemma i got on my hands now?

Boz what WG are you running or anybody else for that matter with the HTA88 turbo?

NewTurboTuner · 06-19-2008, 10:19 AM

You haz a non v-band Waste Gatez???

daren_p · 06-19-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by vaboys2ndgen

Got mine in today. Can anybody figure out the dilemma i got on my hands now?

Boz what WG are you running or anybody else for that matter with the HTA88 turbo?

You need one of these, a Tial Vband 44:

TiAL Sport.com

vaboys2ndgen · 06-19-2008, 10:31 AM

So besides having to PAY to ship it back to FP or sell it is there any other option i can't think of right now?

daren_p · 06-19-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vaboys2ndgen

So besides having to PAY to ship it back to FP or sell it is there any other option i can't think of right now?

You bought everything from FP? Did you tell them what you wanted or order online, etc? Did no one there think to ask, "why is he ordering a square flanged WG, while everything else on the order is vband?"

NewTurboTuner · 06-19-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by daren_p

You bought everything from FP? Did you tell them what you wanted or order online, etc? Did no one there think to ask, "why is he ordering a square flanged WG, while everything else on the order is vband?"

Word
You'd think the people at FP would realize that the WG wouldnt fit

If FP messed up, then they should pay the shipping cost to have it switched.
But if you order it wrong from the Web, then its only fair that you pay the shipping cost to have it switched.\
Either way.... give FP a call. I'm sure they'll switch it for you.

vaboys2ndgen · 06-19-2008, 11:45 AM

Nope I called and placed the order with FP on the phone. stated what i wanted and what i got was the list of what he stated i needed. he being aniel. but i talked to amber on the phone today and shipped it back to them out of my pocket, she is going to exchange it for the correct WG 44Vband

NewTurboTuner · 06-19-2008, 02:47 PM

Yeah FP does a pretty good job.

Just out of curiosity though..... did the subject of shipping reimbursement come up?
Were you told that you had to pay for the extra shipping cost from their mistake? Or did you just not say anything about it, and decided to eat the shipping yourself?

vaboys2ndgen · 06-19-2008, 06:10 PM

It didn't come up once she said they were going to just exchange it now if they get the 41mm back next wednesday call me and be like you owe the difference then we will go from there. i can get it cheaper through someone else than get it through FP anyway. but since i had a big order figured just do it all at once.