Holset Turbos, PART 3 - Page 4

GORBS88 · 01-13-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Maglin

Thank you Matt. If a 50/55 flows 92 lbs/min I would hope the 52 would be a tad less, but even if it's a tad more it won't be the 120 lbs/min that was going around on the diesel forums when I bought it last year. I do know the diesel guys where pushing 60 PSI with it and it was definitly very powerful up until it broke the turbine shaft. Let us know what you think of your 40 PRO man. I'm hoping it's in the holset TH.

Sorry dude, it's in the BEP housing right now. This exact turbo was dynoed at 521awhp at 28psi so we'll see how it works. If it's not enough at that point then i can go to the .70 A/R housing.

dsm-onster · 01-13-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maglin

Thank you Matt. If a 50/55 flows 92 lbs/min I would hope the 52 would be a tad less, but even if it's a tad more it won't be the 120 lbs/min that was going around on the diesel forums when I bought it last year. I do know the diesel guys where pushing 60 PSI with it and it was definitly very powerful up until it broke the turbine shaft. Let us know what you think of your 40 PRO man. I'm hoping it's in the holset TH.

Considering an hx55 flows enough for 1000hp in any atmosphere anywhere on earth

, I suspect your turbo should do well for what you and I talked about over the phone.

GORBS88, is that an hx35/40 hybrid. . . or a straight hx40 pro with the bep housing?

ceedawg · 01-13-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dsm-onster

GORBS88, is that an hx35/40 hybrid. . . or a straight hx40 pro with the bep housing?

Go back to thread #82

GORBS88 · 01-13-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dsm-onster

Considering an hx55 flows enough for 1000hp in any atmosphere anywhere on earth

, I suspect your turbo should do well for what you and I talked about over the phone.

GORBS88, is that an hx35/40 hybrid. . . or a straight hx40 pro with the bep housing?

It's a straight HX 40 pro with the smaller BEP housing, should be good for what i'm looking for

... i hope!!!!

joeracer321 · 01-13-2008, 09:47 PM

Like GORBS88 mentioned that exact turbo on my evo made 521 WHP, but that was maxed out, I couldn't squeeze anything else out of that housing. If you want to exercise that turbo to its full potential you need to stick it in the new BEP .70 A/R T3 housing, add about 10 more PSI and I would expect some 625+ WHP results.

ceedawg · 01-14-2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joeracer321

What are you going with now?

Not sure!

JWoodley · 01-15-2008, 07:54 PM

Does anyone have a WGA for an HX40? I've sourced a turbo and a housing, but need a WGA. PM me inf you've got what I need.

joeracer321 · 01-15-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JWoodley

Does anyone have a WGA for an HX40? I've sourced a turbo and a housing, but need a WGA. PM me inf you've got what I need.

I have a few different bracket and WGA combinations, just let me know what you are looking for.

JWoodley · 01-15-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joeracer321

I have a few different bracket and WGA combinations, just let me know what you are looking for.

Josh, PM sent.

joeracer321 · 01-15-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JWoodley

Josh, PM sent.

PM replied.

dsm-onster · 01-16-2008, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by joeracer321

Like GORBS88 mentioned that exact turbo on my evo made 521 WHP, but that was maxed out, I couldn't squeeze anything else out of that housing. If you want to exercise that turbo to its full potential you need to stick it in the new BEP .70 A/R T3 housing, add about 10 more PSI and I would expect some 625+ WHP results.

I am most certainly NOT calling out your particular tuning skills or anything similar. It is just very interesting that a BEP housing hx35 can be pushed to 500whp. . . Dent Sport Garage

Hasn't another guy rolled out quite a bit more hp with a hx40 pro in a bep housing?

Edit: I found it . . .

hx-40 pro: 600whp at 28 psi. BEP test units. 2.0L displacement, bolt-ons (bolt-ons to me are: cams, smim, fmic, exhaust).

Steve93Talon · 01-16-2008, 06:56 AM

Gotta agree there, when Carl made 516whp, the timing was ridiculously low. As we've indicated in the past, the car was just on the dyno for a baseline tune on the AEM and if we hadn't run out of time we would've played with boost, fuel, and timing and made much more power.

The next time at the track, the car went 11.0 @ 128 on the dyno tune, then we raised timing through the curve like 5-6 degrees, and the car spun violently through 1st-3rd on drag radials and still ran like 11.3 @ 121 missing 4th. Carl noticed a substantial amount of power gain, but as usual that was the last pass of the day and the last weekend the track was opened for the season. Then he did the S366 swap over the winter.

I'm confident the car would've seen 134-136mph traps on a clean pass as it sat, which should translate to high 500s at the wheels easily on a full weight 1G.

joeracer321 · 01-16-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dsm-onster

I am most certainly NOT calling out your particular tuning skills or anything similar. It is just very interesting that a BEP housing hx35 can be pushed to 500whp. . . Dent Sport Garage

Hasn't another guy rolled out quite a bit more hp with a hx40 pro in a bep housing?

Edit: I found it . . .

hx-40 pro: 600whp at 28 psi. BEP test units. 2.0L displacement, bolt-ons (bolt-ons to me are: cams, smim, fmic, exhaust).

I am not sure what you mean by questioning my tuning skills but I am not sure what the HX-35 can max out at as I haven't personally ran or tuned one. But I was talking about, an HX-40, which I have PERSONAL experience with. At the time I couldn't get any worthwhile results in turning up the boost any further... But I was on a piggyback ecu and the internal gate at the time. If I had the AEM and an external gate, I may have been able to break 600 in the BEP housing, but that is speculation of course. What is important to understand is that you will be able to make more power in a turbine housing that is a bit larger at that power level. I feel that at 500 WHP and below the BEP housing offers great response and simple installation, above that a T3 set up makes more sense.

dsm-onster · 01-16-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joeracer321

I am not sure what you mean by questioning my tuning skills but I am not sure what the HX-35 can max out at as I haven't personally ran or tuned one. But I was talking about, an HX-40, which I have PERSONAL experience with. At the time I couldn't get any worthwhile results in turning up the boost any further... But I was on a piggyback ecu and the internal gate at the time. If I had the AEM and an external gate, I may have been able to break 600 in the BEP housing, but that is speculation of course. What is important to understand is that you will be able to make more power in a turbine housing that is a bit larger at that power level. I feel that at 500 WHP and below the BEP housing offers great response and simple installation, above that a T3 set up makes more sense.

I'm not questioning your tuning skills at all. That is why I found it interesting. You obviously know what you are doing (500+ whp using safc!!!). I was just wondering if you had any other issues, as I saw better results elsewere. That's all.

And ABSOLUTELY, a well matched turbine housing is crutial to a turbine's flow.

joeracer321 · 01-16-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dsm-onster

I'm not questioning your tuning skills at all. That is why I found it interesting. You obviously know what you are doing (500+ whp using safc!!!). I was just wondering if you had any other issues, as I saw better results elsewere. That's all.

And ABSOLUTELY, a well matched turbine housing is crutial to a turbine's flow.

You keep making a lot of assumptions, I never said I used an SAFC? I had an ECU+ and a ECM flash.

dsm-onster · 01-17-2008, 07:01 AM

Oops. I could have swore I saw safc, but that's what I get.

dsm-onster · 01-17-2008, 09:37 PM

Just got my H1C today. . . The smaller turbo is my T-bird TC garrett t3 60-trim, which flows about as much air as a 14b. I think it is a better comparison than my small16g (MHI loves those SMALL compressor covers and turbine housings).

TurboAnything · 01-17-2008, 10:16 PM

Very nice you have a large turbo there. How are you hanging it on the car? Dose the compressor cover touch the water pipe?

dsm-onster · 01-17-2008, 11:06 PM

This has the exact same compressor housing shape as an hx35. I will be using a bep housing. So I will have to dent or mod the waterpipe.

The h1c flows less than the '98 and newer hx35. But the hx35 looks like a monster too

. Not many here have used this turbo, so I anted up.