Need help with choosing setup.

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

Im looking to make 380ish wheel on my 99 gsx

i was wondering what turbo would suit me best. I plan to dump the turbo to the atomosphere and it being externally gated.

I was going to tune the setup with the new "MAFT Pro"

i already have:
Apexi N1 turboback
Slowboy 3500 clutch
Innovative Wideband
Pocketlogger
fuel pump (Walbro 255)
FPR (aeromotive)
blow off valve (tial 50mm)
tial 44mm wastegate.

I need:

Intercooler kit of some sort ( leaning towards slowboy)
Turbo
Manifold (dnp of some sort)
injectors
02 Housing with atomospheric dump

what size injectors would i need for this setup? does my current list look okay? am i missing anything? Will the engine hold up fine for a daily driven car with that amount of power? thanks guys! input is welcome!

 

[CanadianTSi]

650's would be the absolute minimum Injector, although I would recommend something bigger. Also your going to need something to tune the car with...

As for the Turbo I would go with a 50 trim or maybe something a little bigger, and yes and the motor will hold up fine as long as the tune is ok.

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

im going with either DSMLink or AEM EMS as my tuning tool of choice. I was looking at externally gated 50 trims, evo 3 16g's etc. ill probably opt for a 50 trim.

 

[CanadianTSi]

Well if your going DSMLink then get yourself some big injectors (850+)

 

[2gAWDTalon]

im going with either DSMLink or AEM EMS as my tuning tool of choice. I was looking at externally gated 50 trims, evo 3 16g's etc. ill probably opt for a 50 trim.

I dont have experience with the AEM EMS but I do have experience with DSMLink... DSMLink is right up your alley for your goals. Easy to work with and retains everyday drivability. There are people making 700hp and running 9's (mabey faster) on Link. I know a local guy running 9's with a street car (kinda) on Link.
In regards to the turbo choice, for your goals I would say the E316G is out... you are going to be pushin a 50 on pump gas to get there. Look at Canadian's dyno... 26psi on race gas. He has a fiddy! If you go a little bigger on the turbo, your goal will come easier (maybe) at the cost of lag.
In regards to injectors, since you are going to need to go with a real tunning system, buy the biggest injectors you can for your money. I reccomend FIC, www. fuelinjectorclinic.com, but there are many good choices out there.
This new MAFTPro... is this just another airflow signal modifier like all other piggybacks? If so, that is not going to work for big injectors.

 

[Slow99x]

I would recomend against the SBR FMIC due to the end tank design that has been talked about on a number of other threads.

 

[PSI NRG]

^^ Agreed look into something with cast end tanks. It might be old school but 20gs make good power still. You could probably run a gt30r or something similar a 35r would probably be over kill especially on stock internals. Be careful stock 2g 7bolts arnt designed to handle big numbers for long. With a good tune 380 at the wheels is deffinatly possible good luck!

P.S. 780cc injectors should be more then enough fuel for the power youre looking to make. Unless you run AEM you could getting something a little bigger like an 880cc but anything bigger then that is overkill in my opinion if you dont plan on running a big guy.

 

[LRS95TSI]

as quoted by 99gsxawdturbo in our local louisville forum:

"just answering questions, not firing off or anything. I ####ing hate this car. with a passion. this shitbox on wheels has given me nothing but greif since the day i got it. it spent more time being worked on than being drivin. #### all that. ive dumped so much cash into maintenance alone it isnt funny. as for the motor being replaced, i could care less about the car itself, i would of sold it to you with the blown one, this is my parents doing and their money and idea, so im forced to go with it. if anyone wants this car, just let me know, its very doubtful on this board since not many people can afford much over 4k on here. im just trying to get some of what i paid for it out of it."

dude your just digging urself a bigger whole...i give you all the support in the world of modding your car, but with what uve gone through and the amount of money your bout to spend on a car with a fresh 7 bolt in it after spinning the rod bearing on the other one...your just looking for a bigger damn headache....

anywho, gt30r ftmfw if your gonna do it....

dsnlink, and 850+ inj.

 

[99GSXAWDTURBO]

dude your just digging urself a bigger whole...i give you all the support in the world of modding your car, but with what uve gone through and the amount of money your bout to spend on a car with a fresh 7 bolt in it after spinning the rod bearing on the other one...your just looking for a bigger damn headache....

anywho, gt30r ftmfw if your gonna do it....

dsnlink, and 850+ inj.

haha yea i know. but i got a new job and can afford the hobby again, so im keeping it.

After looking the the SBR 57 trim, i think im going to purchase that, very streetable with a good amount of power at a moderate boost level. After reviewing dsmlink some more, im opting for that as management. I saw the post about the SBR unit, does anyone have any recommendations for a good front mount?

 

[Slow99x]

If you can get Albert to make you one, I would go dvdtfab all the way. If you can't get your hands on one, read his tech articles and educate yourself on what to look for and what to stay away from in an IC design.

 

[2gAWDTalon]

There is always the XSPower/SSAutoChrome FMIC kit. I belive it is well proven at this point. I have the Dejon Race kit with short route piping and it works awsome. The end tanks on my Dejon kit are a good design in regards to flow. I you want to go the XSPower/SSAC route, I dont know if you can still get it on eBay. If you cant, PM me.

The end tanks on the dvdtfab kits are ****ing sweet! Very nice!

 

[Slowboy]

I would recomend against the SBR FMIC due to the end tank design that has been talked about on a number of other threads.

You have to be kidding me.

We have made over 800 WHP on our front mounts, with no issues.

The end tank design is proven to work very well, and the 2g kit is still our #1 selling item by dollar volume for the third year in a row.

Until you have something scientific to offer up, please do not post this garbage! (Like maybe back to back dyno test of the popular kits?)

Mike Huml

 

[Slow99x]

I didn't say it wasn't possible but it would be easier if the end tank on the passanger side didn't make such a sharp angle. Core size isn't everything. The way air flows in and out of the core is very important too if not even more important. Cast end tanks that have a smooth bend in and out will free up hp at the same boost. Take a garden hose for example and make a 90 degree bend in it, not completely cutting off the flow but still a sharp 90. Water will still flow but it is harder for the water to get through the same area. Take the same hose and make a smooth bend. It takes more room but the water will flow more freely. Every one knows that the more freely things flow in an engine (an air pump of sorts) the more power it will make. If you don't beleive me, make your next exhaust system with a sharp 90 degree bend and see how that flows.

 

[LRS95TSI]

You have to be kidding me.

We have made over 800 WHP on our front mounts, with no issues.

The end tank design is proven to work very well, and the 2g kit is still our #1 selling item by dollar volume for the third year in a row.

Until you have something scientific to offer up, please do not post this garbage! (Like maybe back to back dyno test of the popular kits?)

Mike Huml

your all's kits are amazing for the 2g's...my friend's passenger side end tank did break on the welds, after running 27+ psi on a 60 trim...but the kit is still very good and has everything needed.

on topic:
i would definately stay against the 57 trim...you really should look at the t3 50 trims or a gt 30r....local ppl have bashed that 57 trim to kingdom come, read some on 502, and u'll see how poop it was for people in our area for comparison.

 

[GVR4592]

These were the only two I could find on short notice, I know there are a couple more on the Dsmlink forums.

 

[GVR4592]

You have to be kidding me.

We have made over 800 WHP on our front mounts, with no issues.

The end tank design is proven to work very well, and the 2g kit is still our #1 selling item by dollar volume for the third year in a row.

Until you have something scientific to offer up, please do not post this garbage! (Like maybe back to back dyno test of the popular kits?)

Mike Huml

When did you guys change the cores you use?

 

[Slow99x]

Look, if Slowboy can prove to me that their 2g kit can outflow the DV/DT 2g kit (which I beleive to be the best kit ever made) I will buy a Slowboy kit tomarrow. I'm not talking dollar for dollar, but a true flow test and cooling test. If you want to talk about sales dollars, sure you have them beat but not everyone cares about how many people bought something. I would rather spend the extra money on something that doesn't look like it was slapped together for the sake of fitting the biggest core and "shortest route piping". Where is the engineering? Give me your scientific data showing your core is what you claim to be and not what I know it to be. This site is about helping others acheive their goals with the best information. When you piped in and told me to offer some scientific data was a great idea. How about you do the same and prove to everyone that my statement is wrong and explain the theory of hydrodynamics that you designed this intercooler with.

 

[Slow99x]

I guess there hasn't been a good response to my question so look what I purchased! Please let me know if there is any doubt about which FMIC kit is better. The Apex'i core was placed there for comparison.