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How about a fix for the genric obd2 MAP codes?
What code are you getting? You may be able to turn it off in the periphery bits, but need the code number.

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Is there any kind of support for 6 bolt swaps?
Do you have a 1G CAS? I'm running it with a 6-bolt, with a 1G Black Top CAS.
If you have a 1G CAS you should be fine, its just the 95-96 with the inverted CAS and Crank Trigger setup the sometimes have problems. You need the same hardware as in all the 6-bolt swap guides, like a 2G TPS if you have a 1G Throttle Body, etc..

The 95-96 inverted CAS problem isn't any new, people doing 6-bolts in 95-96 have dealt with it for years, and there are a couple fixes.

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One of my cars has a blacktop cas and it still gets the occasional random misfire on a stock ecu
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What code are you getting? You may be able to turn it off in the periphery bits, but need the code number.
P0105, MAP. I didn't find a fix for it, I was getting the p1400 as well but I turned it off.

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Did i see immobilizer in the periphery bits?
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Did i see immobilizer in the periphery bits?
The periphery bits are the same for all flashable ecus, so I just copied them over.

I'm not sure if the DSMs have Immobilizer code that could be enabled or not.

That's one of the bits I definitely wouldn't play with.

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Aswell as getting rid of the P0105 code I am interested in fan control. My fan comes on @ 203 an my overflow is purging by then. What are the odds of that in the future?

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Aswell as getting rid of the P0105 code I am interested in fan control. My fan comes on @ 203 an my overflow is purging by then. What are the odds of that in the future?
The fan controls shouldn't be that hard to find.

Whats your set-up that is causing the P0105? No MAP?

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The fan controls shouldn't be that hard to find.

Whats your set-up that is causing the P0105? No MAP?
If you can do it (fan control) just let me know how many beers I should throw in. The car didn't have a map sensor in the 6bolt swap when I got it so I put one in and still the code remains. I triple checked for ref. voltage, gnd and probed the pin at the ecu connector so I assume there is a bad connection inside the ecu.

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P0105, MAP. I didn't find a fix for it, I was getting the p1400 as well but I turned it off.
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Oh! I see, as soon as I read this I scrambled to the books and punched myself. Thank you. I do have another MAF if thats the issue. So, thats a big nevermind on the P01050.

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First off, great work Ceddy. I had just got my evo ecu to work but after seeing this I went back to my stock ecu.

I have a 6 bolt swapped 98 gsx with 7/97 build date and the ecu version was 20560009. I have cross flashed the 0010 and so far it is working perfectly with the evo maf converted. I also changed the baro compensation values to match the evo as well because there was quite a difference which seemed to help.

Would you like me to send you the 0009? I know the easiest thing for everyone is to flash to one of the versions on the first page, but strictly for information sake I will send it if you would like.

I do have a question on latency values. I have fic 650 and the latency you have listed is .210. Do I add that to the existing values? I have already put 647 into the injector size.

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Glad you have succeeded with the cross flashing

About your injector latency question... Yes, you have to add the .210 to the existing values


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First off, great work Ceddy. I had just got my evo ecu to work but after seeing this I went back to my stock ecu.

I have a 6 bolt swapped 98 gsx with 7/97 build date and the ecu version was 20560009. I have cross flashed the 0010 and so far it is working perfectly with the evo maf converted. I also changed the baro compensation values to match the evo as well because there was quite a difference which seemed to help.

Would you like me to send you the 0009? I know the easiest thing for everyone is to flash to one of the versions on the first page, but strictly for information sake I will send it if you would like.

I do have a question on latency values. I have fic 650 and the latency you have listed is .210. Do I add that to the existing values? I have already put 647 into the injector size.

Thank you to everyone,
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Yes, for Inj Latency you add to all values in the table.

I just found out the evo5base and evo9base (Inherited to DSM and Evo8) have the MAF Table scaling set to different units. I am changing all the DEFs to match the Evo8. But it will take a little time before I have everything changed then posted here.

Edit: The Evo8 MAF Conversion pic on first page is correct. There is a problem with the Evo7,8,9 DEFs that some have the MAF Scaling as AirFlow8 and some UInt8. Which will display different units. Sorry for the confusion.

I'd like to check out the 0009. My email is ceddy @ ceddy.us

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I emailed the 0009 hex to you.

When I did my maf scaling I used my buddies evo 8 maf smoothing, maf filtering, baro compensation maps and it seems to work very well since I am using his original evo maf.

I was wondering if anyone has rescaled thier maps yet up to say 260 load or so? I know the evo boys start around 70 to start raising the load scale but they also have an extra 4 columns to work with to keep it smooth. We are quite limited with only 14 columns, just wondering where people are starting to raise the load values and what kind of incriments they are raising them by?

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I emailed the 0009 hex to you.

When I did my maf scaling I used my buddies evo 8 maf smoothing, maf filtering, baro compensation maps and it seems to work very well since I am using his original evo maf.

I was wondering if anyone has rescaled thier maps yet up to say 260 load or so? I know the evo boys start around 70 to start raising the load scale but they also have an extra 4 columns to work with to keep it smooth. We are quite limited with only 14 columns, just wondering where people are starting to raise the load values and what kind of incriments they are raising them by?
Whats your turbo setup? And what do expect your max AirFlow to be?

I was going to post an edited 20550011 with rescaled axis for the Fuel and Timing tables, haven't gotten that far yet though.

The RPM axis I was going add more points 5000-6500, because that's where most people have problems tuning out knock. And take some out points out and low rpms.

The Load I was going rescale to a higher Load, and make the timing drop off like the EVOs do. If you look at the EVO maps the timing drops off quickly at high Load and RPMs.

If anyone has input on this it would be welcome.

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I only have an e316g, but with the head I have and 20psi I wouldn't be suprised to see close to 40lb/min. I do plan on going with a 60lb/min turbo when it is all said and done.

The evo timing maps are very conservative. I am computer illiterate or I would post the timing map for the evo that we have tuned here. It prevents any drastic drop off and goes to 300 load point. At the 7500 rpm and 260 load: stock is 9*, we have 22* and it keeps everything very smooth. This is a meth injected car running 28psi on a 35r though

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there are various load columns that have the same values one next to the other
those can be merged to give room for higher load columns

in the timing maps
from 0 to 30 have the same values
also think that from 50 and 60 can be merged too

with that we should have 4 extra load columns


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This is an Ignition map I've been working on. Its good up to 300 Load, which is 52 lb/min at 7500 rpm.

First the 500 and 750 RPM axis were removed, and 5250 and 5750 were added for more resolution where its needed more.

The Load axis was extended to 300. The last item 300 was increased to 380, in case Load exceeds 300. The table lookup can act funky if the lookup is off the map.

All values below 200 Load are from the 2G map, all values above 200 are from the Evo8 map. Any missing values were interpolated.

This should be a good stock, starting map for up to 50 lb/min.

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That is very conservitive for timing. Weather you are at 25lb/min or 50lb/min I would still want 20+ degrees of timing at top end. Assuming you have a base of 5-8* you would still want to have 16 degreees advance at top end, as long as all the supporting mods are there for it of course. If they are not, nobody should be running 50lb/min.

I realize you are taking the side of caution and using that map as only a starting point, but my map at 7000rpm and 240 load is at 21* currently with no knock and is very smooth through out which is off our tuned evo map.

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nice that rescaled map is awesome, now all people have to do is edit the values and put in what they want.
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That is very conservitive for timing. Weather you are at 25lb/min or 50lb/min I would still want 20+ degrees of timing at top end. Assuming you have a base of 5-8* you would still want to have 16 degreees advance at top end, as long as all the supporting mods are there for it of course. If they are not, nobody should be running 50lb/min.

I realize you are taking the side of caution and using that map as only a starting point, but my map at 7000rpm and 240 load is at 21* currently with no knock and is very smooth through out which is off our tuned evo map.
I don't want to put a map out that someone inexperienced will destroy their motor with.
The stock maps are a safe starting point for most setups.

To get to 50 lb/min(~500 hp), most turbos will need 30+ psi. At those boost levels timing can't be advanced greatly. Every car is different and its best to error on the safe side.


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nice that rescaled map is awesome, now all people have to do is edit the values and put in what they want.
I should have the Low Octane Timing and Fuel Maps done soon, then I'll upload the ROM.

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has anyone flashed the 99 GST/GSX ???

there seems to be no def for it


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Have any of you got the 1500 rpm rev limit yet? Twice now my ecu has made me drive home under 1500 rpm, it revlimits 5th@ 36mph I have to then unplug the ecu for a few hours before it comes back to life. Did I brick it? The only code it throws is random multiple misfire.

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Have any of you got the 1500 rpm rev limit yet? Twice now my ecu has made me drive home under 1500 rpm, it revlimits 5th@ 36mph I have to then unplug the ecu for a few hours before it comes back to life. Did I brick it? The only code it throws is random multiple misfire.
That's really weird. Is your Tach acting normal when this happens?

Only thing I can think of is a bad flash.
Make sure your battery is fully charged and reflash it.
I use a Booster Pak when I flash mine, because my car sits a lot and the battery is drained.

Also try getting a log when its doing this, and look for anything abnormal.

My TPS wire came loose once and it did something similar. Its easy to pull the wires out of the ecu plug if you are not careful.

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The batt. is in good shape, the tach seems too be following actual rpm and it don't bounce or drop to zero. The scantool showed normal tps signal. I don't have a logger, i've kinda looked around but i'm not sure exactly what I should get.

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The batt. is in good shape, the tach seems too be following actual rpm and it don't bounce or drop to zero. The scantool showed normal tps signal. I don't have a logger, i've kinda looked around but i'm not sure exactly what I should get.
EvoScan is the best logger out there for the price. And is the only one that works with the OP 2.0 cable.(EDIT: MUTMonitor also works with the OP 2.0 and is free)

All the features EvoScan has is worth the $25.

I'm leaning toward you having a hardware problem more than software. Unless you changed something in the flash you shouldn't have. What have you changed besides Fuel Map, Timing Map, Injector Size and Latency?

Can you make the problem start in any way? Or does it happen completely randomly?

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I'll see what I can do tonight, it's acting up again now and at random. I put a different TB on a few days ago cause the stop busted off of mine and it had a 3 wire tps. I even ran the 4th to the idle switch. There may be an issue that my matco scantool can't pick up cause it works a little slow. I made changes to fuel and ignition maps, injector size, trouble codes, egr delete, rear o2 del. I didn't mess with anything that I don't understand 100%. When it got wierd today, it was fine partial throttle for a while but then I slammed it to the floor in 2nd and at about 2psi it started missing and the MIL tripped. AFR's are stable til it gets dumb. I also swapped the MAF a couple days ago but the signal for that is stable as well.

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