My new e85 16g setup!! - Page 4

JayRolla · 05-25-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnett03

The ecu only reads to 43, so how are you getting 49?

Its called a typo!

JayRolla · 05-26-2008, 08:55 AM

While everyone else is out having fun today on this holiday. I will be pulling my tranny to fix the damn fork that broke. Fun Fun Fun!!!

rrussell · 05-26-2008, 10:04 AM

That sucks, good luck on the fork. It makes me wish I had bought a new one when i had my trans out.

I'm enjoying your write up. Trying to figure out if i will be going E85 or not keep up the good work.

JayRolla · 05-26-2008, 04:27 PM

Thanks man. It took me about 6 hours too pull it but that was with a lot of BS inbetween. Now just have to wait on the part. Also have to buy a slave because when the fork broke the slave boot ripped and the boot ripped from the slave itself.

Ohh and I wrapped one layer of teflon tape in front of the hole on the KS and will see if that helps get rid of some PK. I talked to a guy that fixed a pk issue a long time ago and he welded the knock sensor in and that got rid of outside noise. I dont think I will do that though,

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Black_Bullet · 05-27-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JayRolla

While everyone else is out having fun today on this holiday. I will be pulling my tranny to fix the damn fork that broke. Fun Fun Fun!!!

This wont make you feel better, but I spent my memorial day kicked back relaxing at the beach with some friends and some drinks and a large group of beautiful females in bikini's that came with us to the gacoozi afterwards . So just imagen how fun fun fun my day was

Sorry to rub it in but you have E85 and I dont... lol

Well any idea why did it break?

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Originally Posted by JayRolla

Thanks man. It took me about 6 hours too pull it but that was with a lot of BS inbetween. Now just have to wait on the part. Also have to buy a slave because when the fork broke the slave boot ripped and the boot ripped from the slave itself.

Ohh and I wrapped one layer of teflon tape in front of the hole on the KS and will see if that helps get rid of some PK. I talked to a guy that fixed a pk issue a long time ago and he welded the knock sensor in and that got rid of outside noise. I dont think I will do that though,

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Yea dont weld the knock sensor, that sounds stupid.... How would you take it out when its old and all the goo is coming out?

And about the teflon thing, I wrapped the threads of the KS itself in 1 layer of teflon tape, I dont know what you mean " in front of the hole on the KS" ?

How much did you tighten it down? I just put mines hand tight, and then got the open wrench ( i believe was a 24mm) and gave it a few turns. Its not torqued down or anything, but enough that I cant loosen it up with my hand...

JayRolla · 05-27-2008, 09:37 PM

The 1g clutch fork was revised by mitsu awhile back because they where breaking on stock clutch's. My 2600 ACT plate just made it break faster. The new OEM one I bought is much thicker and you can tell they made it stronger. I will be installing it tomorrow. Sucks because it also took out my new OEM slave cylinder and had to get another one.

The 1g KS has a hole on the tip which is the mic pretty much. I put one layer in front of it and around the threads. The tightened it all the way and got a wrench and gave it one good snug. Maybe half a turn and it felt pretty tight already. What is the OEM torque rating if I could get a torque wrench on it?

Black_Bullet · 05-28-2008, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JayRolla

The 1g clutch fork was revised by mitsu awhile back because they where breaking on stock clutch's. My 2600 ACT plate just made it break faster. The new OEM one I bought is much thicker and you can tell they made it stronger. I will be installing it tomorrow. Sucks because it also took out my new OEM slave cylinder and had to get another one.

The 1g KS has a hole on the tip which is the mic pretty much. I put one layer in front of it and around the threads. The tightened it all the way and got a wrench and gave it one good snug. Maybe half a turn and it felt pretty tight already. What is the OEM torque rating if I could get a torque wrench on it?

Oh ok I understand now, and im not sure the torque specs Ive heard different things and Im too lazy too look it up.
Well have you noticed any difference with it now, done any logs, did it change your timing curve?

JayRolla · 05-28-2008, 11:28 AM

Nope, everyone I know is busy and I cant get someone to help me put the tranny in. I tried with my crappy jack but alone I cant get it lined up. Tonight I'm having my dad come down since all my buddys ####yed out,

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Anyways once I get it back together tonight I will let you know how it goes. I'm thinking of turning the boost down to 20psi. Timing back at 3* for better idle and retune. Then add boost untill I have no more than 5 counts of knock. But its always inconsistent which makes tuning a PITA.

JayRolla · 05-30-2008, 11:02 AM

Car is back up and running. Clutch feels so much better.

The teflon tape over the KS did nothing. I still have all my PK. Boost is at 26psi and I get 8 counts max knock and thats when the car gets hot. First few runs usually show no knock.

DSMsOwnYourV8 · 05-30-2008, 12:25 PM

That's awesome, I can't wait to see what my car is going to pull like on e85 at 20+ psi - it pulls pretty good now on pump gas at stock boost. It's going to be sic... Let me know if you get any dyno numbers up.

JayRolla · 05-30-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DSMsOwnYourV8

That's awesome, I can't wait to see what my car is going to pull like on e85 at 20+ psi - it pulls pretty good now on pump gas at stock boost. It's going to be sic... Let me know if you get any dyno numbers up.

its like night and day. I couldnt go back to anything under 20psi on this 16g. I would just be sad.

DSMsOwnYourV8 · 05-30-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JayRolla

its like night and day. I couldnt go back to anything under 20psi on this 16g. I would just be sad.

Yeah i'm tired of running under 15 psi, when i hear of dudes with the same stock motor running 20+
Stimulus check please come soon.

->PrOjEcTGS<- · 05-30-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DSMsOwnYourV8

Yeah i'm tired of running under 15 psi, when i hear of dudes with the same stock motor running 20+
Stimulus check please come soon.

WOW. your still waiting on those? I got mine almost three weeks ago!!

Used it to buy transmission parts.

JeffGST · 05-31-2008, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JayRolla

its like night and day. I couldnt go back to anything under 20psi on this 16g. I would just be sad.

Yes, E85 is amazing stuff. I have my boost set at 35 PSI (65lbs/min airflow) everyday of the week with less than 2 counts of knock.

JayRolla · 05-31-2008, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffGST

Yes, E85 is amazing stuff. I have my boost set at 35 PSI (65lbs/min airflow) everyday of the week with less than 2 counts of knock.

Yea, my brother has 0 knock at 28psi. My buddys all run 70lb/min turbos at 35psi and 0 knock. One is building a monster mirage with dual fuel rails. Time for some preignition issues!!!!

turboglenn · 05-31-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JayRolla

Yea, my brother has 0 knock at 28psi. My buddys all run 70lb/min turbos at 35psi and 0 knock. One is building a monster mirage with dual fuel rails. Time for some preignition issues!!!!

My new wastegate cap and spring should be here next week to allow me to run over 24 PSI but right now i'm getting away with 24 psi with timing moving in a linear fashion from 28* @ 7psi down to 23* at 24 psi and i'm getting zero knock. And mind you my timing doensn't "build up" like a stock ECU. As soon as i put the hammer down my timing is all the way advanced only declining a few degrees with higher boost and even then 23* is stilla pretty good advance...E85 is abslutely a hot rodder's dream, 105 octane that acts like C16 for only a 1/4th of the cost per gallon

JayRolla · 05-31-2008, 07:53 AM

Its funny because sometimes Im in the low timing map and other runs im in the high. Madders how dense the air is I guess. Last nights run I had 25* advance by redline with 3 counts of knock. Others I only get 17* max. So im going to turn the boost up a little and see if I always hit the hi timing map.

turboglenn · 05-31-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JayRolla

Its funny because sometimes Im in the low timing map and other runs im in the high. Madders how dense the air is I guess. Last nights run I had 25* advance by redline with 3 counts of knock. Others I only get 17* max. So im going to turn the boost up a little and see if I always hit the hi timing map.

I guess this is one case where having too big of an injector for an SAFC (thus putting you in a high timing map ) would end up being a good thing! But the only way i could see more boost putting you in the higher map was if you had to subtract more fuel from the "HI" settings on your SAFC. otherwise with increased air flow you will end up in the lower timing map more often.