I will see if I can get him to load up one of his logs. He did say it had a two spots where the logger read 1 count of knock. Its been real snowy and he told me he was out having fun with it. He said donuts are a lot easier.
Our mechanic was so impressed he said he wanted to build a DD 16g car over a 50trim because he likes how fast the turbo spools it almost makes the same power.
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Madders what turbo you are going to run. I'm guessing at 26psi my brothers 255lph has to be close to the edge on e85. But how would we measure if the fuel pump is maxxing? It cant hurt to run another fuel pump and its not too expensive.
Awesome, so its doing 26psi on an evo16G? I think I'll be just fine then with a Big T28 Killer and 23psi. God that thing is going to spool off idle or something
Awesome, so its doing 26psi on an evo16G? I think I'll be just fine then with a Big T28 Killer and 23psi. God that thing is going to spool off idle or something
Boost hits 26psi and slowly creeps to about 22psi and holds. He has an custom built adjustable actuator with a larger spring that we hope can hold the boost better if we tighten it up. But we dont think its going to work, so he most likely will be getting a external wastegate for better boost control.
Tightened up the actuator and car is holding 26psi alot better but its real snowy so we cant really test it fully. I talked him into going to the dyno after christmas some time so I hope I can post some numbers soon.
Tightened up the actuator and car is holding 26psi alot better but its real snowy so we cant really test it fully. I talked him into going to the dyno after christmas some time so I hope I can post some numbers soon.
Tightened up the actuator and car is holding 26psi alot better but its real snowy so we cant really test it fully. I talked him into going to the dyno after christmas some time so I hope I can post some numbers soon.
Why dont you save your selfs the trouble and just go with a ex waste gate
JayRolla why arent you running E85 in your dsm. This talk seems to all be about your brother/mechanics cars... The day I see a E85 station out here im going to go and have some fun on the highway to burn off the remaining pump gas and fill up with E85. And depending how seldom i see a E85 gas station id buy a decent sized gas tank that can hold 5 or 6 gallons and fill that up and leave it in my garage for back up gas !
Why dont you save your selfs the trouble and just go with a ex waste gate
My brother is running greddy emanage, this is not about my car. Emanage is working out incredibly well. My mechanic loved it and said he is surprised more people done use it for how cheap it is. He even likes some of the features over his dsmlink, but link has the cool features like raising the rev limit and stuff like that. But for a fuel controler, timing controler and injector compensation it works just as good as link.
Also ex wastegate cost money when tightening the actuator was free. Not everyone can just go buy whatever they want.
JayRolla why arent you running E85 in your dsm. This talk seems to all be about your brother/mechanics cars... The day I see a E85 station out here im going to go and have some fun on the highway to burn off the remaining pump gas and fill up with E85. And depending how seldom i see a E85 gas station id buy a decent sized gas tank that can hold 5 or 6 gallons and fill that up and leave it in my garage for back up gas !
Well I have a little girl and another little one on the way. I dont really have the money to go out and buy dsmlink, injectors, fuel pump, fuel line and all that.
I'm building the easiest and cheapest way to break 300whp. I will be adding a methanal injection kit here real soon and hope I can somewhat keep up with my brothers car.
Well I have a little girl and another little one on the way. I dont really have the money to go out and buy dsmlink, injectors, fuel pump, fuel line and all that.
I'm building the easiest and cheapest way to break 300whp. I will be adding a methanal injection kit here real soon and hope I can somewhat keep up with my brothers car.
Thats understandable, my car is done on a budget. And besides you arent too far away from a E85set up either, and dont you already have a socketed eprom, just get a basic chip tune. Also E85 doesnt mean you have to turn the boost up, you can still make more power just using it to take advantage of timing advance.
Run a lean afr that doesnt knock so you have more leanway in IDCs and then just run the max boost you can till your fuel system cant keep up, and crank the timing way up.
Even if your current fuel set up on the 16g is limited to like 12-13lbs with E85; im sure you'll still be faster if you dropped 32 degs of timing on top of that and youd be making more power but on a little less boost... Why not ya know?
Thats understandable, my car is done on a budget. And besides you arent too far away from a E85set up either, and dont you already have a socketed eprom, just get a basic chip tune. Also E85 doesnt mean you have to turn the boost up, you can still make more power just using it to take advantage of timing advance.
Run a lean afr that doesnt knock so you have more leanway in IDCs and then just run the max boost you can till your fuel system cant keep up, and crank the timing way up.
Even if your current fuel set up on the 16g is limited to like 12-13lbs with E85; im sure you'll still be faster if you dropped 32 degs of timing on top of that and youd be making more power but on a little less boost... Why not ya know?
No I dont have an eprom, just a safc to tune. I was thinking of throughing in a 255fp and 1000cc injectors. Then just see what I can do with the safc. There was a guy here on a gt30r turbo and made 550whp on e85 using just a safc and 1000cc injectors. There was a spot on the rpm band that he was not able to lean the car out but still made awesome power.
But we only have I would say 4 pumps in our whole town right now. Ive seen people run 26psi and 20+ timing on a 16g using meth injection so I may try that route instead of e85.
We are also thinking of pulling the timing back a little on the tune of my bro's car. We are only adding 6 points on the emanage. We would like to see 22-26* like when it was stock because with the stock cast pistons it may be a little dangerous.
Congrats, 26psi on a evo316g feels insane. I'm also running the evo3 16g at about 25psi daily on e-85 and 1000cc injectors. Car feels super fast.. I think im around 21degrees timing with about .4 knock, but only when my boost spikes. This is also on an old tired motor.
Congrats, 26psi on a evo316g feels insane. I'm also running the evo3 16g at about 25psi daily on e-85 and 1000cc injectors. Car feels super fast.. I think im around 21degrees timing with about .4 knock, but only when my boost spikes. This is also on an old tired motor.
You damn Colorado people with all this E85 im jealous..... lol
Congrats, 26psi on a evo316g feels insane. I'm also running the evo3 16g at about 25psi daily on e-85 and 1000cc injectors. Car feels super fast.. I think im around 21degrees timing with about .4 knock, but only when my boost spikes. This is also on an old tired motor.
Yea he is running on the stock motor when he bought the car. Car reads 200k miles. But we believe the motor was swapped at one point. The car had a 13g turbo on it when we bought it from an auction.
He gets maybe two spots on the logger where 1 count pops up of knock. Are you the guy that has a 12.1 1/4 mile on a 16g/e85 setup?
Congrats, 26psi on a evo316g feels insane. I'm also running the evo3 16g at about 25psi daily on e-85 and 1000cc injectors. Car feels super fast.. I think im around 21degrees timing with about .4 knock, but only when my boost spikes. This is also on an old tired motor.
Hell id be happy with even just 23-24 psi with 25-26degrees timing daily, wouldnt even need to push it further, id probably just take advantage of some higher compression if I built the motor...
Yea Jack brought your car up if its you. He said it feels like my bros may have a little on it, but you never know with the butt dyno. We hope he can get an 11 out of it, but his tranny has some miles and wont let him get through the gears as fast as he wants.
With your brothers tune Im sure id muster an 11.5 or lower trapping 120+ with my car, so despite altitude differences high 11s should be no problem depending how bad his shifting is..
Car is still running great. We pulled a little timing out. It was really only maxing at 28*, not 30* like he told me. Anyways now its hitting about 26* just to keep some egt down.
Car is still running great. We pulled a little timing out. It was really only maxing at 28*, not 30* like he told me. Anyways now its hitting about 26* just to keep some egt down.
Dyno sheet will definently be coming. Track time may be a little while, since he is still running a tired stock tranny. Its kind of hard to get through the gears.
His car is still running great. He told me a ws6 tried to play the other night and it was just pitiful. Anyways Im jealous of this stuff and I want it.
Im going to through in a maf-t and some 950's and max out my 190lph FP. Even if I'm not able to run more than 15psi I will still be happy. I see knock at 15psi on my pump gas tune.
I hate to dig up an old thread but how are things running with your brothers setup? With Maperformance's sale, I'm going to go with pretty much the same setup he has. FIC 1050's, E316, emanage, etc. I know I'll have to get it tuned locally but a baseline never hurts (well too much if I'm lucky). Only real difference is 90 gsx vs 99 and all the glory of having a one off system for just about everything that is...
I hate to dig up an old thread but... How's your brothers setup doing? With a little help from maperformance's sale I'm going E85 with pretty much the same setup he has. E316g, FIC 1050's, emanage, etc. Only real difference is mine is 90 vs 99 and I'll more than likely run a water to air in the sidemount location if I can get the logistics worked out. I'd really appreciate a basemap (can't hurt too much) so I can get from home to the awd tuner in Illinois. It's a real PITA to be switching parts out in the parking lot if you know what I mean. Oh and congrats on your own E85 setup. I'm looking forward to some #'s and I'll be posting mine as soon as I get some, even if they are ego-busting for me
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edit: DOH! damn double posts...
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No dyno numbers. I asked him and his answer was why waste the money when I could just go to the drag strip. Hes also mad the car still doesnt hold boost and either does mine. We cant figure it out. But now that my car is running good Im going to make him come with me and get some dyno numbers.
Car is running great though. Emanage is awesome and well worth the price.
