all wheel drive conversion

jeremy19984g63 · Feb 26, 2006

I found a donor 92 gsx real cheap, was wanting to know if and what parts could be used in converting my 98 gst to all wheel drive?

DSM BEEYACH · Feb 26, 2006

None. You need a 2G donor.

Spooling99 · Feb 26, 2006

The awd conversion is very very time consuming but i guess since you have the parts you need it wont take forever. Here is a thread i think that will help you on your quest for awd :thumb:

http://wwww.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210825&highlight=awd+conversion
-ADAM- :talon:

98eclipseRS · Feb 26, 2006

You could use some of the parts but you will still need a 2g car for some major parts. Here is a basic list of what you will need.

-entire rear subframe from an awd 2g
-awd tranny
-transfer case
-all four axles
-rear suspension set up
-2g awd gas tank
-drive shaft
-all four axles
-2g awd exhaust
-2g awd exhaust hangers, they will need to be welded to the bottom of the car
-2g awd rear subframe bolts that hold the subframe to the unibody.(the fwd ones are shorter. You will need to cut a square out of the sheetmetal in the hatch area above each bolt in order to get the fwd ones out and the awd ones in.

Everything besides the exhaust hangers and the subframe bolts are a complete bolt on affair. Good luck you will deffinately need it.

98eclipseRS · Feb 26, 2006

Spooling99 said:
The awd conversion is very very time consuming but i guess since you have the parts you need it wont take forever. Here is a thread i think that will help you on your quest for awd http://wwww.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210825&highlight=awd+conversion
-ADAM-

he will not have the parts if he is trying to use a 1g.

DSM BEEYACH · Feb 26, 2006

98eclipseRS said:
You could use some of the parts but you will still need a 2g car for some major parts. Here is a basic list of what you will need.

-entire rear subframe from an awd 2g
-awd tranny
-transfer case
-all four axles
-rear suspension set up
-2g awd gas tank
-drive shaft
-all four axles
-2g awd exhaust
-2g awd exhaust hangers, they will need to be welded to the bottom of the car
-2g awd rear subframe bolts that hold the subframe to the unibody.(the fwd ones are shorter. You will need to cut a square out of the sheetmetal in the hatch area above each bolt in order to get the fwd ones out and the awd ones in.

Everything besides the exhaust hangers and the subframe bolts are a complete bolt on affair. Good luck you will deffinately need it.

Nope. the exhaust hangers bolt in. The only welding that needs to be done is to the drive shaft bracket. Also all the rear control arms are the same just the hub is different. I've done this conversion 3 times now. Not hard but, very time consuming. Good luck to you Sir.

DSM BEEYACH · Feb 26, 2006

98eclipseRS said:
he will not have the parts if he is trying to use a 1g.

Yep.

1fast97gsx · Feb 26, 2006

What about using a n/t 2.4 spyder and doing the swap? Those can be had for cheap and the engine is the same orientation as the 4g63 so you could esentially build a 4g64 awd turbo spyder. Any thoughts on that?

DSM BEEYACH · Feb 26, 2006

1fast97gsx said:
What about using a n/t 2.4 spyder and doing the swap? Those can be had for cheap and the engine is the same orientation as the 4g63 so you could esentially build a 4g64 awd turbo spyder. Any thoughts on that?

Has been done many time. :thumb:

DSM BEEYACH · Feb 26, 2006

Here's a tip to anyone that plans on attempting such task.You need a AWD starter plate/spacer that goes between the engine and the tranny. With out the Awd plate the starter wont fit. Every tech article on FWD to AWD conversion fails to mention this part.

gurmanator · Feb 26, 2006

I have the same question...my friend has a 93 laser fwd and I have a 92 laser awd donner and he wants to make his awd with my parts...what problems can I expect?

DSM BEEYACH · Feb 26, 2006

gurmanator said:
I have the same question...my friend has a 93 laser fwd and I have a 92 laser awd donner and he wants to make his awd with my parts...what problems can I expect?

I can only say what's needed for a 2g AWD conversion. I'm sure 1G AWD conversion is also possible but, i won't speculate on that. Why not just swap the engine over to the 92 AWD laser?

98eclipseRS · Feb 26, 2006

gurmanator said:
I have the same question...my friend has a 93 laser fwd and I have a 92 laser awd donner and he wants to make his awd with my parts...what problems can I expect?

No its not possible, well... its possible but its won't be just a bolt on affair like on a 2g. With 1g's the rear half of the car is completely different between awd and fwd. You could do it but it would far surpass the cost of just buying an awd 1g.

gurmanator · Feb 26, 2006

DSM BEEYACH said:
I can only say what's needed for a 2g AWD conversion. I'm sure 1G AWD conversion is also possible but, i won't speculate on that. Why not just swap the engine over to the 92 AWD laser?

my car was a roll over and his is all done up nice but thanx.

Spooling99 · Feb 26, 2006

98eclipseRS said:
he will not have the parts if he is trying to use a 1g.

Thanks I should pay more attention next time :thumb:

jeremy19984g63 · Feb 27, 2006

please let me know if anyone has a totaled 2G all wheel drive in the VA. area. If so and the drivetrain is still intact i would like to make an offer.

snowboarder3 · Sep 4, 2006

could you youse a tallon awd doner on an eclipse?

numlock666 · Sep 4, 2006

yup Talon = Eclippse. Both = DSM. SAME engine, chassis, interrior, everything except headlights, tailights, and bumper covers oh and sideskirts! Talon sidskirts are the ownz :thumb:

Im looking to do the swap too, picked up my 2G FWD for 3K when a 2G AWD would be around 7K to 5K. I've read that on the non spyders its a little harder and not all bolt on with a lot of fab work and the spyders are basicly bolt on. Can someone speculate on this?

98eclipseRS · Sep 4, 2006

No fab work needed at all. Just some bolt you need to relocate(you need to cut holes in the sheetmetal. and remove the driveshaft brackets from the awd car and weld them to your fwd chassis. The only other non bolt on part of it is where you have to solder some wires for the fuel pump assembly. None of the work is very hard its just ALOT and I mean ALOT of work. I am almost finished with mine as we speak.

sonicnofadz · Sep 5, 2006

Sell your car and buy a GSX. You will save both time and money.

98eclipseRS · Sep 5, 2006

sonicnofadz said:
Sell your car and buy a GSX. You will save both time and money.

You may save time by buying a gsx but if you do the swap yourself that's when you end up saving money. 2g fwds are going for rediculously low amounts of money. Where as stock awds are going for closer to 10k. So you buy your 2g fwd for 3k pick up a wrecked awd for 2k do the swap yourself maybe spend another 500$ on random shit and you are ahead quite a bit of money.

slipstream808 · Sep 5, 2006

Wait, what is easier about the spyder conversion? I'm sorry to be dense here.

Merkles · Sep 5, 2006

i heard the spyders are built on the AWD frame so would there need to be any welding for the driveshaft brackets or are there spots there for them already?

slipstream808 · Sep 5, 2006

^^^^ That's what I'm basing my qustion off of.

sonicnofadz · Sep 5, 2006

98eclipseRS said:
You may save time by buying a gsx but if you do the swap yourself that's when you end up saving money. 2g fwds are going for rediculously low amounts of money. Where as stock awds are going for closer to 10k. So you buy your 2g fwd for 3k pick up a wrecked awd for 2k do the swap yourself maybe spend another 500$ on random shit and you are ahead quite a bit of money.

10k for a 2g awd? Right...I see 95 GSX's going for 5k or less on autotrader all the time. Do yourself a favor and sell your fwd. Even if you successfully do the swap, the chassis still won't be as stiff as the 2G awd, the whole thing will be just a big hack. You will save both time and money buying a GSX, and your car won't be a ghetto-fied 2G FWD chassis.

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