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quayzar590awd....you my friend have no idea what your talking about.....the colaboration between Mitsubishi and Chrysler died in 96...thats why the Eagle Talons died in 96...no more 4Gs from Mitsu = no more cars.....and hence the reason Mitsubishi switched to the 420A and you get a ton of Dodge Neons with Bastard Child 2 Liter DOHC Engines that are well.....trash.....I own a 92 Talon, a 95 Talon TSI, a 95 GST...and you cant tell me the engines and the entire car are not Exactly the same......anyhow back to original thread....The Evo Motor in a 2G would be Sick but Costly, take it from me I had a 3G Eclipse with a 1G Motor Swap and you talk about a pain in my ass and costly but i imagine the Evo motor would cost double or triple....and i spent close to 6k just to have a Non turbo 4G63 in my 2001 Eclipse
this thread is full of a bunch of BS.. guys arguing over 2g's being dsm's, and some modified stock bumper.. BIG DEAL. I want to know if this would be a good alternative for n/t DSM's?!?!
i want to see a FU****G build thread ASAP
i dont care if my car will be FWD, or AWD if i can drop an Evo motor in my n/t talon that would give me something to look forward to since i dont ever want to get rid of my first car.. ..ill always be attached to it
this thread is full of a bunch of BS.. guys arguing over 2g's being dsm's, and some modified stock bumper.. BIG DEAL.
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i want to see a FU****G build thread ASAP
There are numerous build blogs about 4g's in NT's
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i dont care if my car will be FWD, or AWD if i can drop an Evo motor in my n/t talon that would give me something to look forward to...
That's the whole thing, if you are going through the trouble of swapping motors you can have a dsm 4g in an NT and make more power for much less money. AND you have the option of going AWD ON THE CHEAP as well, if you really cannot part with your NT. You could do an evo 4g with it's AWD system but it will cost you thousands more than a dsm 4g/AWD setup.
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I think this is a great swap for those with N/A 2nd gen, now this swap is possible then making it AWD is too, I've even seen the 3rd gen eclipse with this evo motor and made into a AWD using the Evo8 parts. it looks and sounds easier on the 2nd gen "DSM" though. here is some pic's of the 3rd gen doing it too this one is FWD.
If all DSM's came FWD with a non turbo 420a engine I'd say this is an awesome swap. But when there are DSM's with AWD and a 4g63 already in them it seems retarded to spend a ridiculous amount of money on an evo swap. That's my 2 cents. If you are so attached to your NT, keep it as a nice clean DD and get youself a GSX or TSi AWD.
OK there are people butting the Evo motor in the 8g galant, now if the evo motor will work in the 2g, i have a derfint way cheaper way you can use the 4g64 block out of the 3g eclipse or the 8g galant and find a Kia DOHC because the head shares all the valve train from the evo, there a few people doing the dohc swap to there 8g galant and going turbo so what i'm trying to say you can have the same set up for a little less, not dirt cheap but a little bit easyer on the wallet
here is a link were a guy did it and he is going turbo soon
OK there are people butting the Evo motor in the 8g galant, now if the evo motor will work in the 2g, i have a derfint way cheaper way you can use the 4g64 block out of the 3g eclipse or the 8g galant and find a Kia DOHC because the head shares all the valve train from the evo, there a few people doing the dohc swap to there 8g galant and going turbo so what i'm trying to say you can have the same set up for a little less, not dirt cheap but a little bit easyer on the wallet
here is a link were a guy did it and he is going turbo soon
In Korea they are putting evo engines and drivetrains in rd tiburons (97-01).
Most of you are guys are wondering why anybody would do this and that is not the point of this thread, its about it being done and not too much effort to do it. A lot of people don't care for AWD especially if they haven't been in one, Honda's, mazda's, Nissans, mitsu's are filled with FWD or RWD and for all we know drag racing is not the thing there. They might care about looks and highway speeds.
Imagine you have an RS and have done every cosmetic thing to it but it lacks power eith spend 4000g's trying to turbo it or spend that on a EVO 8 motor and labor, stop being assholes and appreciate good work when you see it.
P.S Dude arguing about the DSM thing, if you don't like the fact that dsm stoppped in 98 then kill youself and you wont have to think about it. Just because the partnership was done in 94 didn't mean there contract obligations where done. Don't come on a dsm board telling folks they don't have dsms when they get pissy if someone puts an evo 8 motor in a dsm.
P.S Dude arguing about the DSM thing, if you don't like the fact that dsm stoppped in 98 then kill youself and you wont have to think about it. Just because the partnership was done in 94 didn't mean there contract obligations where done. Don't come on a dsm board telling folks they don't have dsms when they get pissy if someone puts an evo 8 motor in a dsm.
Awesome swap! there are some advantages of the evo 4g that would make this swap desireable (ACD if you swap the drivetrain also, mivec etc). I would love to see a step by step how-to on this swap. someone said the talon was discontinued in 96 but it was 98 just FYI. OP, good work on the swap though i love things that are a bit unique.
In Korea they are putting evo engines and drivetrains in rd tiburons (97-01).
Now a rwd tiburon with an evo 4g, or any 4g, is SICK. That is a whole different animal. I would sure as hell drive one! There, at least, the money is put to good use; putting the power to the rear wheels!
Pete
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If all DSM's came FWD with a non turbo 420a engine I'd say this is an awesome swap. But when there are DSM's with AWD and a 4g63 already in them it seems retarded to spend a ridiculous amount of money on an evo swap. That's my 2 cents. If you are so attached to your NT, keep it as a nice clean DD and get youself a GSX or TSi AWD.
i do plan on buying a gsx/tsi awd when i get out of college
but if i have a gsx, and i still happen to have my esi then the Evo 8 swap seems like a good project. Sure evo engines are expensive now, but they wont be forever. And if this swap is relatively easy than i dont see why its not a good idea.
and xloki77x sorry but i did not know there were numerous build threads on this. Actually this whole swap was news to me because i have just ALWAYS heard there are no swaps for n/t dsm's.
oooh he told you! 
