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Old 03-01-2006, 01:27 PM   #721 (permalink)
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Ok, I've read through this thread, and you guys almost have me sold on buying an "ebay" core/kit instead of the 900 dollar one I was going to get, but I have a few quick questions you may be able to answer.

1. If you are going to be using a diff BOV do you have to have a diff flange welded? or do most of the vendors give you an option?
2. On the ebay cores, I realize they might be great for a 16g-20g, but what about for something around the range of a 60-1? or an Fp 3065 (which is what I want to end up with)? Would they hold up and cool well? Because if they do there is no reason to spend the extra 500+ bucks, I can do a lot with 500 bucks right now.
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Old 03-01-2006, 01:40 PM   #722 (permalink)
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Yeah it'd handle them. These coolers are pretty damn big. They have a 28" core and w/ endtanks they are 32" by 10high x 3.5 thick.... I'd hope that these coolers would handle a 60-1......
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:43 PM   #723 (permalink)
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hey 1G guys..found this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-1...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:10 PM   #724 (permalink)
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This is the same one, but the picture is inverted.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB..._BIN_Stores_IT
They might work, but I'm sure alot of fab work would be required.
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:18 PM   #725 (permalink)
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This is the same one, but the picture is inverted.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB..._BIN_Stores_IT
They might work, but I'm sure alot of fab work would be required.
yeah,
..and need say these are just IC pipes-FMIC not included,but can be aded for aditional charge.
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Old 03-01-2006, 04:06 PM   #726 (permalink)
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It's just a piping kit they have those all over ebay. Hell you can get the same thing from jegs, summit, etc etc. It's cheap because you have to fab everything up. It's not a kit that is custom fit for your car that you slap on and say I'm done in 20 mins. Do a search on "eclipse intercooler pipe" you will see about 20 of those diy piping kits.
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Old 03-01-2006, 06:28 PM   #728 (permalink)
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wow.. around $300~ shipped for 28" x 12" x 3" bar and plate core, ic piping, couplers, clamps, MBC and HKS SSQV style bov!?
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wow.. around $300~ shipped for 28" x 12" x 3" bar and plate core, ic piping, couplers, clamps, MBC and HKS SSQV style bov!?
I doubt that intercooler kit will fit. They always sell I/C's with a bunch of reproduction blow off valves and universal piping and clamps in hopes that they'll fit.
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I dont think those pipes are ready to put on either.It looks like its just a pipe kit and you have to fab it yourself.
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Either way, For the price... You can't go wrong. They actually have ones that are 9" tall only (Would fill the 2gb front bumper perfect) For even cheaper.. For a core, Piping (It says the piping it comes with) And couplers/clamps.. You can't really go wrong if it is a good intercooler (Never tested, So I can not speak for that part.) The others would just be an added extra so to speak.
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You're right. That piping will NOT fit on a 1G. As a matter of fact, the reason you don't see pre-fabbed kits for 1Gs from those EBAY sellers, is because piping route on a 1G driver's side is complicated. Running pipe round the frame is not the best solution, and requires extensive frame support cutting. Either that, or it hangs too low.
Proper way would be to go through radiator sopport opening, but due to length of those EBAY interccolers, the bend would have to be very sharp. In other words, can't be mandrel-formed, and therefore can't be mass-produced cheapely. Here's an example of hand-made pipe to fit standard ebay 12"/24"/3" or 4" core (31" end tank to end tank). You can see that making one takes time, and since most of those EBAY sellers make money because all the products they sell are standard and produced in great quantities, you will not see a piping kit to fir EBAY fmic on a 1G (unless I start making extras and posting then on ebay )


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edit: By the way, to clear things up, I run 12X24X4 core ebay FMIC myself, and love it.


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Newlogics, isn't there a way to go around the end and do a 180 with a Ubend?

The IC I just bought is 30" end to end, 9" tall. I thought it'd be a better fit behind the 1g bumper and be able to keep the crash bar and bumper support...


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What was the average time it took you guys to install?


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Old 03-02-2006, 12:05 AM   #736 (permalink)
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What size are the bolts that hold the bumper on? Mine are rusted to hell and it probably would be a decent idea to get new ones from the hardware store just in case, or just replace them all. Looks like a 12mm?


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mine took me roughly around 10-12 but I took my dear sweet time.
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Newlogics, isn't there a way to go around the end and do a 180 with a Ubend?

The IC I just bought is 30" end to end, 9" tall. I thought it'd be a better fit behind the 1g bumper and be able to keep the crash bar and bumper support...
Frame on a 1G doesn't have nice cut-out like a 2G, so you would either have to heavily cut the beam/sidewall, or run the pipe underneath, wich would make it way too low.


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Old 03-02-2006, 02:22 PM   #739 (permalink)
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In other words us 1g guys are out of gas with these ssautochrome kits unless hella fabing is done.
Especially if you want to keep the crash beam.


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In other words us 1g guys are out of gas with these ssautochrome kits unless hella fabing is done. Especially if you want to keep the crash beam.
i think that i might have a couple of fixes for this problem, when i start installing it i will definately tell you everything i did, unless ofcourse it is impossible to insatall but nothing ever is. but rest assure that i am not going to say something like, "hey guys i have an easy fix, just get the endtanks rewelded and it will bolt right up." lol, im gonna try doing it so that we can all install it easily.
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