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Old 12-26-2007, 02:15 PM   #451 (permalink)
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Any comments on using it on engines with 300,000 miles on the clock?
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:25 PM   #452 (permalink)
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Mine has well over 230k on it and it works fine. The only caution is... It was a few posts back, but it is about the carbon build up, on the rings. If you have old beat up rings and you run seafoam through it will clear the carbon and end up spewing oil where you don't want it. That's my only caution about doing this at high miles. You might be up for a rebuild.

How was the car treated before you got it? And how hard do you drive it? (If that has to do with it)

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For over 230K my baby is running great after a seafoam treatment! Idle is better, and throttle response is also better. So it is your choice if you want to risk it or not. From reading the thread a lot of have said it's a 50/50 chance. And most say rebuild.
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:54 PM   #453 (permalink)
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Well hell... if you're going to rebuild it anyway... why not take the chance and Seafoam it.


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Old 12-26-2007, 05:14 PM   #454 (permalink)
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I was told to use a product called Engine RX in my Ford IDI diesel engine, because diesels dont produce any vacuum you cant do the same thing with them as you do with these gas engines. It has to be put in the oil and ran for 2 or 3 oil cycles before it cleans the carbon out.
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:16 PM   #455 (permalink)
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Well depends if you have the $$$ to rebuild. And hey, if you have the money to rebuild, why not seafoam it anyways.

Oh how I long for a rebuild

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Well on the can it says it can be used for diesels as well. You can put it in your crankcase and gas. Have you looked into the seafoam deepcreep? That is in spray form rather than liquid.
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I'm not a diesel expert, but that seems a little silly to me... especially when there is Turbo Diesel vehicles out there. How can an engine not produce vacuum?


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Well hell... if you're going to rebuild it anyway... why not take the chance and Seafoam it.
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Well depends if you have the $$$ to rebuild. And hey, if you have the money to rebuild, why not seafoam it anyways.

Oh how I long for a rebuild
Hey, GREAT IDEA!!


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Old 12-26-2007, 05:52 PM   #458 (permalink)
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Not that anyone will get this far in the thread ( ) but I have some before and after emissions with seafoam to get an idea of what it can do. Also I noticed I have a small hole some were after the turbo so I think that why i dint pass and I think the seafoam probably opened it up by getting the gunk out a tiny bit more.
cruise limit: 220
b4 seafoam 110 after 85 (wow) pass
idle limit 220
b4 seafoam 202 after 178 (wow) pass
Co% idle limet 1.2
b4 seafoam 1.09 after 1.07 pass
Co % cruise limit 1.2
b4 sefoam 2.3 after 2.22 FAIL

So it did do some good on the test! My car is running great now even with another problem I have yet to fix. Its very very fun to drive again.

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Old 12-26-2007, 06:21 PM   #459 (permalink)
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I'm not a diesel expert, but that seems a little silly to me... especially when there is Turbo Diesel vehicles out there. How can an engine not produce vacuum?
They just dont, thats why they have vacuum pumps to run the power brakes. And if you'd notice, anybody who knows what they're doing tuning turbo diesels will have a boost (+) only gauge in the vehicle to read the boost. Because there just simply isnt vacuum in them, even with a turbo. The reasoning has more to do with the operating principal of the high compression. Atleast this is the case with these old IDI engines that I have for diesels. I dont know the pure operating principal of DI turbo diesel engines.
Anyway this is off topic, I only mentioned it because of the possibility of using a different product.
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Funny I used Deep Creep. Emptied the whole can into the manifold that goes to the BOV and I barely had a smoke show. Drove around for less than 10 mins and it was all cleared up. I guess my engine is clean enough as it is? A thing I noticed is there's not visible puffs of smoke coming out the exhaust. I'm guessing it's burning a lot cleaner now.


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Old 01-13-2008, 06:20 PM   #461 (permalink)
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so i just used the seafoam, smoked a lil bit, actualy a lot, started smoking from the engine bay, i found out that i had 2 hoses disconnected from my intake, so i reconnected them, hoping it would be the end of my idle problems...it wasnt. still idle surge. but the car does drive a little bit better now. Nothin like but its good. But i would recommend it to everyone.
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sea foam??

can you spray in into an exhaust mani to spot a crack?????
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:05 PM   #463 (permalink)
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Even a better thread regarding this general topic below.

smoke test for exhaust leaks?


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Old 01-19-2008, 12:03 AM   #464 (permalink)
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I did and I found a crack...
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See foam is flammable i would not do that unless you like burning things and the fumes from it are not good unless you dont like to breath.
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Old 01-19-2008, 03:20 PM   #466 (permalink)
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See foam is flammable i would not do that unless you like burning things and the fumes from it are not good unless you dont like to breath.

Gasoline is flammable, so why would you want to put that in your car? I don't think anyone plans on using seafoam and breathing the cloud of smoke afterwards


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Old 02-19-2008, 11:05 PM   #467 (permalink)
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I now use Marvel Mystery Oil (MMO) the same exact way; you get twice the amount for your money, and it doesn't take as much to have the same effect.
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:36 PM   #468 (permalink)
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the first time i used this in one of my cars i was not expecting as much smoke as there was and my neightbors came over thought something had caught fire lol
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I just used it on my car with 130K and it ran decent before, and now I would have to say I noticed a significant improvement. Thanks for the thread. I am glad I tried it.
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Didn't do very much for my elantra. I used both the deep creep and the liquid stuff. There was tons of smoke but car didnt improve very much if at all.
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What is the deep creep? I think I saw it in the store and it looked like a bolt loosener. (Kinda like WD40 or PBs) Did you put that in your engine?
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