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Old 09-18-2005, 05:21 AM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #1 (permalink)
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How hot does your engine get???


This being my first turbo car, it just stood out at me. But i bought a car that was hiding alot of problems (broken harmonic balancer, oil coming out of valve cover, fuel pump not mounted with the bolts, alot of stripped bolts)

after fixing what seems to be alot of the problems, ive always noticed how hot the car gets. my friends love it and ill drive down the road and back and we will throw ice on the exhaust manifold and watch it skip liquid and goto steam... this dont require much driving, either.. but its like after i get home from work i cant work on my car for HOURS or maybe even the next day.. well my question is

how hot is too hot???


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there are alot more parts working in turbo cars, and a lot more fluids/air flowing. It doesnt take much for the motor to get hot quite quicky.
My GSX usually heats up pretty good in about 10 blocks with not even getting on it.
Even though its a different motor....my buddys B18C1 gets so hot after starting it and revving it a couple times that you have to let it sit for about 30 min.
hope this helps some bro. good luck.

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OK well buddy your manifold gets hot(duh), But how is the engine temp? Another thing is you can put you finger on the manifold and see if its really hot!!(kidding don't do that).
The turbo will heat that manifold fast, All I have to do is start mine and its hot.


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Old 09-18-2005, 07:56 AM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #4 (permalink)
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My car does the same thing i was beginning to wonder is the coolant parts were gone out. I can actually cook a steak on my engine.

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Since the Turbo is under your hood, your goign to see some higher temps, and Stock thermostats dump at 190, You may concider a lower Temperature Thermostat if High Temps worry you. My 1g has a 160 and It averages a temp of around 185.

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Is the low temp t-stat something i can go to autozone and get? I always work on my car after coming back from a drive to set stuff differently and i cant keep getting water blisters in my palm...lol

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i gotta low temp from autozone i belive its a 160

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do you remember about how much it costs? I am lookin to get one also...I cant take the burns much longer I have no finger prints now.

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dunno how hot the engine gets, but my valvecover is definitely hot enough to flake 500 degree paint off of it because that's what it is doing to my once-cool anodized red paint.

as far as the "thermostat" mod, you all better do some searching. I've come across some discussions about it in the past. I don't remember what the outcome is, but it may be worth your while.
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and see thats funny because the guy i got my car from spray painted the valve cover gold and i cant get that off to save my life. It gets so hot but that spray paint won't peel...

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do you remember about how much it costs? I am lookin to get one also...I cant take the burns much longer I have no finger prints now.
Mine was 20 bucks from a store locally here in Lincoln.

Good luck fellas!

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Ok thanks man im gonna look in to getting me one of those.

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The general concensus in most all cars is running a lower temp thermostat usually wears out your water pump quicker. And being that it takes so much time to change a wp in our cars, id probably just get another stocker. Then again this is coming from someone that has yet to put his thermostat back in , i usually have a max cruising temp of about 169+/- a few degrees.


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The general concensus in most all cars is running a lower temp thermostat usually wears out your water pump quicker. And being that it takes so much time to change a wp in our cars, id probably just get another stocker. Then again this is coming from someone that has yet to put his thermostat back in , i usually have a max cruising temp of about 169+/- a few degrees.
cough cough bull sh*t, ummm no it don't man.
OK tell me this how is a thermostat harder on a water pump, its after it so whats the deal with changing it.


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my coolent hose was leaking and i can tell you from experience, like some have said already, these cars get hot almost immedietly. be careful not to crack your block.

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These cars, especially the first gen are known to run hotter.
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Aint that the truth. I can't get my coolant temps below 213 to save my life

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Ya my car ran at around 203 till i put a fmic on it. Now it sits at like 210-213. I put a slim line fan on while still using the stocker and that helped quite a bit.

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My EGTs are usually between 1000 and 1400 degress. Alot depends on how long I've been driving. My car gets up to operating temperature really fast and it takes like half a day for it to cool off enough to work on it. That's the disadvantage to cast iron.

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The general concensus in most all cars is running a lower temp thermostat usually wears out your water pump quicker.
If something is general consenus, that would mean most people have heard about this concept. Using a lower tStat has no bearing on water pump longetivity as far as I know. The pump is belt driven. What does the tStat have to do with water pump longetivity? If you're right, you need to explain why.

Using a lower temp tStat is a common modification on these cars. I've never, in almost a decade of owning a DSM, heard anyone say you shouldn't use a lower temp thermostat.


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