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Old 02-26-2008, 04:51 PM   #361 (permalink)
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How did you notice a 200 rpm difference in spool on a t25?
An even better question is how do you pick up spool RPM by decreasing load on the motor? I could understand it spooling faster time wise, but spooling sooner in the RPM range makes no sense.


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My ACT flywheel works fine for me. I've never driven a DSM with an 8lbs. flywheel, but I've driven Hondas with 8lbs. flywheels and puck clutches and it isn't really that big of a deal. On my car with the 2600 it took a few days to get used to traffic and hill starts, but it's easy to drive now and I have no complaints.
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I have a Fidanza flywheel in my car and honestly never noticed a difference.


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im running an ACT 2600 with one of ACT's Streetlite flywheels. i didnt notice any difference low speed driving wise. it drives just well as it did with the stocker. but i can tell a big difference in how much faster the engine revs because of the flywheel being a little lighter.
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An even better question is how do you pick up spool RPM by decreasing load on the motor? I could understand it spooling faster time wise, but spooling sooner in the RPM range makes no sense
Correct.

I will say the car I drove with the fidanza was an evo. As far as I know it had an ACT clutch. I only drove it for about 15 minutes. I am sure if I drove it more I would have gotten used to it. But I didn't like what I saw at first.
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I have a fidanza flywheel and it drives just like stock. Only difference is the motor likes to rev real fast when not in gear and it puts a little more power to the wheels.
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I have driven on both the t-25 and on a 50trim on an act 2600 and xact flywheel. The clutch is heavy but you get use to it. Didn't have any problems drove solid.

I am now driving a fidanza with my 2600 on a 50trim and I can just feel the power as I shift through gears without even touching boost. Way more responsive, but the 2600 is still a beast to drive in traffic.


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I like my Fidanza flywheel, drives nice.

Mine as well upgrade it when the trannys out to put on a nice new clutch!
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I heard from lots of local guys here, that ACT sux big time, my buddy is a subaru freak, and used it once, and said he will never touch that piece of sh** again. Those were his words. So i hear a lot of bad things about ACT around here, I dunno if its different on our cars. I would rather go with Excedy. do fidanza make any flywheels that are like 12-13 lb? or any other companies besides ACT? Just curious.
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I have a Fidanza Flywheel with a Comp Stage 4+ (sprung 6 puck) Clutch and the only time I really didn't like it at all is when I was breaking the clutch in. Now that it is broke in it feels awesome and revs really quick.
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thanks for the input guys.
So basically all you guys with fidanza flywheels, you think its normal for daily driving?
I dont want to be burning shit load more gas, and/or stalling, or being much harder to drive than stock, i dont mind a heavy clutch, but rev's dropping really quick might suck, cus i drive in traffic for about an hour or so each day!!! there and back!, so it sux big time to even have a manual lol, but i put up with it, cus i have fun on weekends and evenings otherwise, i just want the drivability to remain as easy as stock, as long as its not huge difference i will be getting it most likely.

i don't know about the stepping or anything, any suggestions on which package would be right for me?
I definetly want to go with Excedy clutch.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:14 AM   #372 (permalink)
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dude just go get your self a act stage 3 clutchand flywheel youll be set up to 900 hp at the flywheel
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:16 AM   #373 (permalink)
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actualyl just saw this one ebay:
eBay Motors: EXEDY CLUTCH & FIDANZA FLYWHEEL 92-99 ECLIPSE TALON AWD (item 150220185241 end time Mar-04-08 14:17:07 PST)

would something like this work for my future power goals?
Or the clutch is too much of a stocker?

If i could find a package, would be awesome, i cant seem to find any organic excedy clutches witht hat flywheel
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That's just going to be a stock clutch. 350-400hp will kill it in no time. And I recommend the ACT streetlite flywheel. I've always had problems with fidanzas. Besides, the ACT is supposed to take the heat that awd creates from repeated lauches better than the aluminum fidanza.


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Given how you're so worried about traffic driving, I'd avoid the super light flywheels and try to find something in the 11+lbs. range. Even the ACT flywheel, which is 11.5lbs. IIRC, drops revs pretty quick and requires a good amount of slip to keep from stalling. Although you can get used to it, it still gets tiresome in traffic when you have to do a prolonged slip out on a very heavy pressure plate (think lifting and how much more strained you are if you lift the weight slowly). I don't know what the engagement is like on the Exedy clutch because I have no experience with them, but if the pressure plate is heavy and/or the clutch is grabby, you're going to want to punch yourself in the face after your first hour long traffic commute with a <11lbs. flywheel.
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I would go with ACT, but I have heard lots of bad things about them here. I dunno, maybe they just suck on other cars. i have no clue. I know a lot of people use them on DSMs, but I don't know how good they are. So probably my best bet in terms of flywheels either an ACT one or machine my stock? I'll look into the ACT one. Also which clutch would go with it? Do you guys know of any good combos/deals somewhere, where I could buy?
My buddy suggested the clutch with the springs, i forget what the proper name is for those kinds, i think it was sprung disk or something like that, but he said its better for daily driving, and to make sure i dont get the ones without the springs, cus thats for track mainly.
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Maybe ACT isn't good for other applications, but I've never had or never heard a complaint about them in DSMs. I've had mine installed for about 75,000 miles without any issue.

As for a clutch with springs, yeah that is called sprung disk or sprung hub.


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Old 02-27-2008, 08:56 AM   #378 (permalink)
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I'm running an ACT 2100 + street disc with the ACT flywheel. I didn't have any issues with this setup until a month ago. The street disc seperated in the middle from the clutch material. Why, I don't know...I'm installing another in a sec (just picked it up) and I'll let you know if anything else goes wrong. As far as the fidanza, a buddy of mines runs one on his 1g and it's a noticable difference in rpm drop. I wouldn't run one on a dd. Just a weekend warrior or track beast. Just my .02
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thanks, i didnt think the fidanza was good for dd anyways. especially in traffic. anyhow i will be looking further into the ACT clutches and flywheels.
Thanks for all the input guys.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:08 AM   #380 (permalink)
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The fidanza flywheel is fine for dd. Ive never stalled, because of my flywheel, thats ridiculous. You will gain more performance with this. Fidanza didn't just throw this out there, they actually did alot of studying to get the lightest flywheel thats still driveable.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:25 AM   #381 (permalink)
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ya, i know what you mean. I doubt i would stall with it too, but what I am wondering is if it would be really uncomfortable to drive it, especially in traffic? i do spend about an hour each way in traffic to work, thats the main reason i am asking, and curious about it.
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