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Old 04-22-2008, 12:40 AM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #91 (permalink)
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Thank you! I guess my only remaining question would be, if I went with the 225's, would 15mm be enough for piece of mind when it comes to the fenders? I'm not familiar with how much travel there is in the suspension when a car hits a bump. I'm guessing that the older the suspension, the more travel.

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Suspension travel is limited by the bump-stops, which normally allow the tires to tuck well inside the fenders. The table is based on a reasonable amount of suspension lowering and corresponding camber adjustment which decreases fender clearance. On a stock suspension there would be more clearance, so yes, I believe you would have plenty of room for 225's.


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Great. Thank you very much wret!

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TIRE SIZE RECOMMENDATION REQUEST FORM

Please answer the following questions when requesting tire size recommendations.

1. My car is a:
b) 2g DSM

2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 18
Width: 7.5
Offset: 35

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered
None but possibly in the future enough to close wheel gap.


5. Rear fender flange rolling:
b) I will not roll the fenders.

6. My driving style is:
c) Street and Strip.


7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
a) Yes, but I just need someone with experience to validate my choices.

I just want to know the best tire with out risk of rubbing. I want a maximum width with the 18" wheel but if its to much of a risk ill drop to a 17.

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^^it doesn't matter what size rims you get but the overall circumference of your wheel and tire combo. Since your width is only 7.5" get a 225/40/18 and you will be fine.


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Will that all be fine if in the future i want to drop it a little. Not super low just enough to close some wheel gap with full coilovers?

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Will These Wheels / Tires Fit?

It's not the drop that messes with the clearance, it's the post-drop camber adjustment. Hard-turners (autocross, etc.) tend to leave a lot of negative camber-good for clearance. If you drag race, you'll want the camber closer to zero. I believe this would necessitate fender rolling with wide offset wheels you propose.


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1. My car is a:
2g DSM '96

2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 15
Width: 7
Offset: +43mm

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered
I have a full coilover setup so it can be raised or lower to sit and clear.

4. If suspension is lowered,
Front and Rear camber kits are also going on the car not an issue that can be set to where it needs to be at.

5. Rear fender flange rolling:
Has not been done as of yet but can be not a problem.

6. My driving style is:
c) Street and Strip. (currently have a set of 24.5x8x15 MT slicks mounted on the volk te37s 15x7 +43mm they clear just fine on gsx calipers not an issue just looking for a drag radial for street/strip usage.

7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
I guess i was just missing it. if its there sorry but i haven't found what i'm looking for to fit on 15x7 wheels.


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found it! 225/50/15 BFG t/a drag radial


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P45r wheels on my 2G... What Offset and tire width?

I need to get rid of my heavy ass 19x8 axis se7en wheels and Marti at VIP garage offered me a really good deal on some 17x9 Rota -hyper silver- P45r's but I need to know what offset I need to make them fit right with some really wide tires (255+) for best possible traction. My car is a weekend warrior that I may use to drive to work occasionally during the week as well as to the track on weekends for drag and road racing. I have eibach pro-kit springs and tociko adjustables, so my ride is lower and stiffer than stock. I dont mind rolling my fenders if necessary and I dont mind if the wheels stick out from the wheel wells a little, but I don't wanna use spacers if it's gonna make my car look like a skateboarded ghettomobile. Anyone know the offset I need and max tire size I can get away with?
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I need to get rid of my heavy ass 19x8 axis se7en wheels and Marti at VIP garage offered me a really good deal on some 17x9 Rota -hyper silver- P45r's but I need to know what offset I need to make them fit right with some really wide tires (255+) for best possible traction. My car is a weekend warrior that I may use to drive to work occasionally during the week as well as to the track on weekends for drag and road racing. I have eibach pro-kit springs and tociko adjustables, so my ride is lower and stiffer than stock. I dont mind rolling my fenders if necessary and I dont mind if the wheels stick out from the wheel wells a little, but I don't wanna use spacers if it's gonna make my car look like a skateboarded ghettomobile. Anyone know the offset I need and max tire size I can get away with?
17x9 with a 35mm offset has been known to clear 255/40/17. If i remember correctly the highest offset Rota offers is 30mm so its gonna stick out probably 3/4"-1" all around.


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So if I buy 17x8" or 17x8.5" 30mm p45's can I still squeeze on a set of 245 or possibly 255 tires without them sticking out so much?
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225/45/17 would fit without a spacer.
235/40/17 would probably fit as is but they're a little small.
235/45/17 will require at least a 5mm spacer.
235/40/17 might fit with a 5mm spacer but closer to 10 would be better.

Typo here? Do you mean 245/40-17?
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So if I buy 17x8" or 17x8.5" 30mm p45's can I still squeeze on a set of 245 or possibly 255 tires without them sticking out so much?
According to Rota website the 17x9 is the narrowest wheel they have for the P45R. You can get the P45F in a 17x8 32mm or 17x7.5 45mm but it won't have that sick concave look.


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Honest opinions please...Would 3/4" to 1" sticking out of the wheel wells look horrible? Also, does anyone have pics of similar width and offset wheels on a 2g?
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Looks are a matter of opinion. But having them extend beyond the fenders leads to two issues.

1) Fender contact with your tire. You need a stock height suspension or one developed to handle the two from contacting
2) Wider wheels will kick all sorts of debris down the side of your car.

Here are some threads that show 255/40/17 on 17x9-35. One thread has Konis w/ H&R springs. The other with Mullerized JICs

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TIRE SIZE RECOMMENDATION REQUEST FORM

1. My car is a:
2G GSX - '99

2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 16
Width: 7
Offset: +43mm (Enkei RPF-1)

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered
Tokico Springs (1.75" drop) and Tokico Illuminas

4. If suspension is lowered,
Front and rear camber kits will be installed.

5. Rear fender flange rolling:
No.

6. My driving style is:
c) Street and Strip. It is a low 12/high 11 sec car and will soon be in the mid 11's. I also plan on going farther later this winter/next spring, possibly low 11's. It sees mostly street use, but I want to be able to hookup well at the drag strip.

7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
Yes, if I go with a street tire, I've searched heavily and decided on a 225/50/16. But most DR's are wider and may or may not be taller. I'm also unsure as to what tire to choose for my future goals (see 6), whether it be a DR or street tire. Once that is decided, if a DR is the proper choice I'll need help with size. If a street tire is the proper choice, I think a 225/50/16 will work fine.

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TIRE SIZE RECOMMENDATION REQUEST FORM

1. My car is a:
2G GSX - '99

2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 16
Width: 7
Offset: +43mm (Enkei RPF-1)

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered
Tokico Springs (1.75" drop) and Tokico Illuminas

4. If suspension is lowered,
Front and rear camber kits will be installed.

5. Rear fender flange rolling:
No.

6. My driving style is:
c) Street and Strip. It is a low 12/high 11 sec car and will soon be in the mid 11's. I also plan on going farther later this winter/next spring, possibly low 11's. It sees mostly street use, but I want to be able to hookup well at the drag strip.

7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
Yes, if I go with a street tire, I've searched heavily and decided on a 225/50/16. But most DR's are wider and may or may not be taller. I'm also unsure as to what tire to choose for my future goals (see 6), whether it be a DR or street tire. Once that is decided, if a DR is the proper choice I'll need help with size. If a street tire is the proper choice, I think a 225/50/16 will work fine.

Thanks
Hoosier makes a drag radial that is 225/50/16 go to jegs.com . Since your wheels are 7" 225/50 is the perfect size and you will not rub with that offset.


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Thank you. Now all I have to do is decide whether I really want a DR or street tire.

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will these slipstreams fit?!?!

i am looking at a set of 17x8.5 black rota slipstreams with a +38mm offset. they are brand new with new falkien tires for 700, i think these is a steal! i am wondering if i will have any issues/problems with fitting these big wheels on my 97 fwd tsi. my car isnt lowered YET but i want to get coilovers very soon.

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Well we need to know the LUG pattern and tire size. I think with THAT wide of a wheel and that small offset they will rub on the inner edge of the wheel. The best way to tell is to test fit one.
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I have 17x8.5" with 35mm offset and 255/40/17 RT615. As long as the lug pattern is 5x114.3 your are good.

Warning they will stick out past the fender and you can NOT slam your car (i have 2 finger gap in the front and 3 in the back). If you want to run 245 or 255 you need some fairly stiff coilovers in the future, if you want to avoid rubbing.


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the tires that they come with are Falken Ziex ZE912 in 245/40/17. i have already ordered 15x7 slipstreams +40 offset and since i have i cant stop thinking about how small their going to look and or stupid. i do not want to look like a honda civic . with these 15's i was planning on wrapping them in MT et street drags (235/60/15) I WANT TRACTION

i just need opinions on how EITHER would look mainly what you guys think of a 15x7.
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wret, I have looked at your charts in the "Will These Wheels / Tires Fit" thread, but I see that the tire you used as the "factory" tire is the factory tire for the 16" wheels.

As far as I know, and as far as I have read, the '97+ AWDs all came with the 17" wheels. According to the VFAQ on 2G fitment, the stock tire for the 17" wheels was a 215/50-17.

I just wondered how that would affect your 17" wheel chart. I'm assuming the only difference it would make is in the "%Diff from Stock", meaning some of the tires marked orange wouldn't deviate as much from stock tire sizes. Figured it was worth mentioning/asking about.


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While that write up does not declare what stock size was used as baseline, you may have inferred that the baseline is 205/55/16, in which case you would be correct. You are also correct in assuming the only difference if 215/50/17 was the baseline would be the values in the "%Diff from Stock" column. None of the other clearances would be affected. The numbers in that column would be 0.8% lower for all the tables. My numbers assume that the final gear ratio and speedometer calibration were designed around the 16-inch wheel and the 17-inch wheel was an afterthought (with no other driveline compensation). I may be wrong but either way it's a relatively minor deviation.


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Just looking for some guidance with the rims I am looking at right now

1. My car is a:
a) 1g DSM


2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 17
Width: 8
Offset: 48mm

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered

b) One to 1.5 inches


4. If suspension is lowered,
a) Rear camber will be adjusted to less than 1° negative.


5. Rear fender flange rolling:
a) My fenders are rolled or will be if necessary.


6. My driving style is:

d) Street and Autocross.


7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
a) Yes, but I just need someone with experience to validate my choices.

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1. My car is a:
b) 2g DSM

2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 17"
Width: 8"
Offset: +42mm

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered
b) One to 1.5 inches

4. If suspension is lowered,
a) Rear camber will be adjusted to less than 1° negative.

5. Rear fender flange rolling:
a) My fenders are rolled or will be if necessary.

6. My driving style is:
d) Street and Autocross.


7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
a) Yes, but I just need someone with experience to validate my choices.

What is the maximum size tire I can fit on this wheel? This is for an Awd 2g, Thanks.
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245/40-17
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