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05-20-2011, 05:46 AM
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Nice, subscribed, and you answered my 500HP question with this turbo. This is what I was looking at. I was worried about spool though. And you're running 3" IC pipes. 
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He's running this on a 2.3. If your not using a stroker motor expect to hit full boost between 4500 to 4700. I also run 3" intercooler piping so you can probably save some spool up time with the 2 1/2" piping.
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05-20-2011, 05:51 AM
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Ya, I noticed that a little later, before when I replied I quickly skimmed, damn lack of sleep! lol
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He's running this on a 2.3. If your not using a stroker motor expect to hit full boost between 4500 to 4700. I also run 3" intercooler piping so you can probably save some spool up time with the 2 1/2" piping.
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Thats good to hear, i ahve 2.5" piping, just dont know if the PR FMIC will hold up lol  May have to invest in a better core..
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05-20-2011, 12:04 PM
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UPDATE...trying for more power but now its floating the stock valve springs...so I'm going to throw some Supertech dual valve springs in there over the weekend, along with some adjustable cam gears, and get it back on the dyno monday-tuesday ish to see if I can make even more
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05-20-2011, 12:41 PM
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UPDATE...trying for more power but now its floating the stock valve springs...so I'm going to throw some Supertech dual valve springs in there over the weekend, along with some adjustable cam gears, and get it back on the dyno monday-tuesday ish to see if I can make even more 
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If I was wrong. Good luck.
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05-20-2011, 06:36 PM
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UPDATE...trying for more power but now its floating the stock valve springs...so I'm going to throw some Supertech dual valve springs in there over the weekend, along with some adjustable cam gears, and get it back on the dyno monday-tuesday ish to see if I can make even more 
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Damn homie! You must have some deep pockets to be able to dish it out like that on the fly!  ! Congrats though. Car is sick.
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05-20-2011, 06:52 PM
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Any work done to the Tranny at all? like internal wise? I am wanting this set up, i will have the block and head here within a month, then it will be a few months till I could afford something again, but am undecided if I should get a tranny built first then get the turbo. Let me know what you think.
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05-21-2011, 09:41 PM
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He's running this on a 2.3. If your not using a stroker motor expect to hit full boost between 4500 to 4700. I also run 3" intercooler piping so you can probably save some spool up time with the 2 1/2" piping.
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I've been tossing around the idea of a 2.3 or a 2.4. I'm on my 5th DSM. Been in the 11s with a 2.0 when the FP reds were a new turbo. There was no such thing as a stroker when I first started modding DSMs, which was back when Dave Buschur and Sean from Extreme Motorsports were still running 16Gs. And when I bought my 1G from the dealership with 17 miles on it.
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05-21-2011, 10:21 PM
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so what made you go with the hta3582 over like an hx40 pro? because I have a really good friend with the hx40 and it is a very capable turbo for like a 1/3 of the price. AMAZING setup though love it
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05-21-2011, 10:38 PM
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so what made you go with the hta3582 over like an hx40 pro?
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My guess is, he wanted a real turbo  You get what you pay for, and holsets are not an exception to this rule.
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05-21-2011, 11:05 PM
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My guess is, he wanted a real turbo  You get what you pay for, and holsets are not an exception to this rule.
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Please avoid turning this thread into a "I hate holset" vs "I love holset". Pretty sure we already have enough of those around here.
Come on man, you say that like holset is a knock off.....
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05-22-2011, 08:21 AM
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My guess is, he wanted a real turbo  You get what you pay for, and holsets are not an exception to this rule.
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Have you ever used a holset?
To the OP... Good job with the car! You're turning it into a dyno queen though. Get that thing to the track. Better get a 4 bolt.
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05-22-2011, 08:42 AM
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yeah x2 on that 4bolt
great job on the setup so far man...
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05-23-2011, 07:18 AM
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Any work done to the Tranny at all? like internal wise? I am wanting this set up, i will have the block and head here within a month, then it will be a few months till I could afford something again, but am undecided if I should get a tranny built first then get the turbo. Let me know what you think.
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Its a shep stage 3 trans. I'd do your trans first, then turbo.
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To the OP... Good job with the car! You're turning it into a dyno queen though. Get that thing to the track. Better get a 4 bolt.
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I'm not really. I'm getting the car dialed in correctly so that when I do bring it to the track, the car is right, and I'm not begging for a disaster.
Here is the dyno graph comparison of my old graph with a much smaller turbo versus my new graph of the new set up. You can see the DSM82 is spooling up QUICKER than the smaller old 6061! Keep in mind you can see the car is breaking up in the high RPM range due to my lack of dual valve springs causing a valve to float, thus a misfire. I believe once its back on the dyno it will pull 600+hp to 8000
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05-23-2011, 07:44 AM
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Its a shep stage 3 trans. I'd do your trans first, then turbo. 
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Sweet that was the tranny I was looking at too. What options did you opt for? I am wanting the evo 1st geAr and input and the taller 5th gear too.
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05-23-2011, 07:48 AM
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Sweet that was the tranny I was looking at too. What options did you opt for? I am wanting the evo 1st geAr and input and the taller 5th gear too.
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I believe it does have a evo 1st gear, but the previous owner who had it would know more about that. I'd have to ask him or wait for him to chime in
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05-23-2011, 01:19 PM
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Ic, well either way its good to hear that it works great for the setup, cause your set up is similar to what mine is going to be, damn near close. Hope to pull some similar numbers as well. I want to taste 600!
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05-23-2011, 04:39 PM
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Congrats on the numbers! It was nice checking out your car and cody's at automotion over the weekend. What plugs and what were they gapped to when you were using stock coils? I was able to make 640whp on a mustang dyno with no break up issues what so ever with stock coils, br8es gapped down to .020"
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05-24-2011, 07:57 AM
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Congrats on the numbers! It was nice checking out your car and cody's at automotion over the weekend. What plugs and what were they gapped to when you were using stock coils? I was able to make 640whp on a mustang dyno with no break up issues what so ever with stock coils, br8es gapped down to .020"
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Yeah it was nice to see your car too. Thing is crazy.....Makes me want to put 4 slicks on my car
Well we found that it wasn't ignition break up in high rpm, it was my stock valve springs causing valves to float and thus causing the misfire. I'm putting supertech dual valve springs in it now and hoping that solves the issue. For ignition, I'm running Beyond Redline's coil on plug set up and Br8es as well gapped to .024. I'm hoping it still doesn't misfire when the valve springs are in, but we'll see.
BTW...how is that new set up of yours working out? You getting into it yet?
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05-24-2011, 08:09 AM
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Yeah it was nice to see your car too. Thing is crazy.....Makes me want to put 4 slicks on my car
Well we found that it wasn't ignition break up in high rpm, it was my stock valve springs causing valves to float and thus causing the misfire. I'm putting supertech dual valve springs in it now and hoping that solves the issue. For ignition, I'm running Beyond Redline's coil on plug set up and Br8es as well gapped to .024. I'm hoping it still doesn't misfire when the valve springs are in, but we'll see.
BTW...how is that new set up of yours working out? You getting into it yet?
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We somewhat dialed it in while we were up in the dells on wastegate pressure (25psi) From a slow roll while matt (mr. peepers) got a quick jump and then I stayed on his bumper the whole time. His car usually traps mid to low 130's so if I can do that on wastegate pressure that is awesome! Right now I am in the process of fixing the speed sensor issue so I have a speedometer and then get to finally play around with the nitrous to get it out of the hole.
I will be looking forward to seeing some new numbers!
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05-25-2011, 02:56 PM
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The only thing this thread is missing are videos...!
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05-25-2011, 05:01 PM
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The only thing this thread is missing are videos...!
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Waiting on beyond redline to send them to me via e mail  Should be by tomorrow!
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05-27-2011, 11:05 AM
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Waiting on beyond redline to send them to me via e mail  Should be by tomorrow!
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dyno video is now up and viewable on 1st post 
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Yes. That joker looked like it was about to jump off the rollers.
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05-27-2011, 02:06 PM
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Good numbers from a DSM bolt-on turbo, and the recirculated wastegate sounds super-stealthy at full boost.
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05-27-2011, 02:21 PM
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That is monster torque, well done!
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