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06-20-2011, 09:46 PM
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From: novelty, Ohio
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How many miles are on that block? Im building a 16g track car right now with a 6 bolt swap and it makes me feel so much better about swapping.
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06-21-2011, 06:38 PM
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I'm not really sure on the actual miles on that block but I figure that it's somewhere around 30-40k but that's just a guess.
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06-21-2011, 10:49 PM
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Impressive my buddy is a honda nut and this article convinced him to put a forsale sign on it and buy a dsm!
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06-22-2011, 01:10 AM
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Car: Mitsubishi Galant GS 4G64 DOHC
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Impressive my buddy is a honda nut and this article convinced him to put a forsale sign on it and buy a dsm!
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the op is a honda nut as well and i convinced him to get a dsm and look at it now lol good job on bringing new people to the dsm world hehe
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06-22-2011, 02:09 AM
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From: Little Rock, Arkansas
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To be honest with you I was using the oem mitsu composite till about 3 months ago and it saw 37 psi and when I took it out it had no signs of letting go. I went ahead and switched over when I installed the new springs and valves to the mitsu metal which to my experience is all you need. The composite was holding up but I didnt want to continue pushing it. I would put the mitsu oem metal Ceedawg. 
Also the 2150's and one jay pump was good till about 620whp but I was only revving to 7700 rpm at that point. With the higher revs I think I would have ran out of pump if trying to rev to 9k on the single pump. It will depend on your setup but with mine that is what I was able to push out of it.
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Did you have the head and block resurfaced when you went to mitsu metal gaskets? To a mirror finish like it requires.
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06-22-2011, 09:30 AM
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The head was resurfaced that way but I put a straight edge on the block and it was to spec so I left it alone and didn't resurface.
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06-22-2011, 01:29 PM
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From: montreal, QC, Canada
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why forged if stock do the job ? do you think it can handle 700awhp
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06-22-2011, 02:15 PM
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Car: Mitsubishi Galant GS 4G64 DOHC
From: Orlando, Florida
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why forged if stock do the job ? do you think it can handle 700awhp
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Who knows it might, we will continue to push it
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06-22-2011, 06:58 PM
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Don't worry im gonna try my hardest to get into the 9's before the shootout and take the car out there.
The 272's got me to the 10.29 and they are a proven cam to get into the 9's but the Fp's made my powerband stay up after 8k rpm which is what I was after. I need to go to the track and see where we are now.
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I'm loving it bro.
Were the cams just a drop in or did you have to buy cam gears and have them dialed in?
Also what does the bottom end feel like compared to your old cam setup or is it difficult to say?
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06-22-2011, 09:25 PM
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I'm loving it bro.
Were the cams just a drop in or did you have to buy cam gears and have them dialed in?
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With the Fp cams it acts the same as it did with the hks but the top end improved substantially. Bottom line is that the fp4r's are worth every penny.
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06-22-2011, 09:32 PM
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why forged if stock do the job ? do you think it can handle 700awhp
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Probably not for long, if at all...
The stock rod bolts will let go around 600, when beaten on; so I'd make sure to have those swapped out. But at that point you might as well buy a set of eagle's, then you might as well get pistons.. Not really that much when you consider you will probably have a nice hole in your block and might trash your head otherwise.
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06-22-2011, 09:32 PM
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Car: Mitsubishi Galant GS 4G64 DOHC
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The cams are straight drop ins
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Probably not for long, if at all...
The stock rod bolts will let go around 600, when beaten on; so I'd make sure to have those swapped out. But at that point you might as well buy a set of eagle's, then you might as well get pistons.. Not really that much when you consider you will probably have a nice hole in your block and might trash your head otherwise.
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Have you tried it yourself to come to that conclusion?
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06-22-2011, 11:00 PM
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Well guys we went to the track tonight a bit late but I wanted to test the fuel system since we had a few issues with injectors getting clogged with the e85. We made a few changes and cleaned out the system and made 3 runs on less boost (33psi) and this was the outcome. We hot lapped the car because we got to the track with only one hour left to closing time. The first run i bogged and the second spun hard and finally the last pass was clean with a shitty 60' but at least a clean pass. Afr's were rich, it was 84 degrees and 100% humidity so I feel that with the boost back to 37psi we should be very close if not in the 9's
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06-23-2011, 09:03 AM
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With a 1.4s 60' that would have been a 9sec pass already. Bring it back on a cooler day and more boost to claim the stock block record! Very well done!
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06-23-2011, 03:12 PM
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Car: Mitsubishi Galant GS 4G64 DOHC
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Was this on the stock ignition set-up? Congratulations as well. |
The car has a spark tech COP setup
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06-23-2011, 09:42 PM
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The car has a spark tech COP setup
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Which Sparktech system exactly if you don't mind me asking? Any ignition amplifier to drive the COP is what I'm asking.
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06-23-2011, 09:46 PM
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From: Eastpointe, Michigan
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What springs are you running with your FP4R's?
Nvm, I just read FP springs. I'm assuming the beehive ones?
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06-23-2011, 09:58 PM
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What springs are you running with your FP4R's?
Nvm, I just read FP springs. I'm assuming the beehive ones?
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I would think so.
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06-23-2011, 10:45 PM
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Which Sparktech system exactly if you don't mind me asking? Any ignition amplifier to drive the COP is what I'm asking.
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Just a standard Cop with no amplifier
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What springs are you running with your FP4R's?
Nvm, I just read FP springs. I'm assuming the beehive ones?
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Yes the beehive with stock evo 8 retainers.
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06-24-2011, 09:55 AM
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Well guys we went to the track tonight a bit late but I wanted to test the fuel system since we PEhad a few issues with injectors getting clogged with the e85. We made a few changes and cleaned out .
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I'm wondering if this is a constant issue with e85. I plan on purchasing 2150's for the purpose of using e85 but now I'm concernd. I notice many members here use it in their cars so I don't understand. 
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06-26-2011, 10:27 AM
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I'm wondering if this is a constant issue with e85. I plan on purchasing 2150's for the purpose of using e85 but now I'm concernd. I notice many members here use it in their cars so I don't understand. |
I have seen a few guys here and on evom with the same problem and some very long threads on the issue. There are different theories as to what causes the black beard but I would not hesitate to use ethanol if I were you. It is the best fuel I have ever used even if it did give me a few problems.
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07-05-2011, 06:45 AM
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Impressive numbers 
That clogging really is bad with E85, I just tried to declogg mine and it wasn`t a pretty job at all :P
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07-05-2011, 02:39 PM
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Impressive numbers
That clogging really is bad with E85, I just tried to declogg mine and it wasn`t a pretty job at all :P |
That was definitely a concern I had. Guess I will see what I can do max on pump 93 then I'll go racefuel.
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07-05-2011, 06:49 PM
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Car: Mitsubishi Galant GS 4G64 DOHC
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The weird thing about the clogging is that it is random, I know a few local dsm guys that run e85 and they haven't had any kind of problems. In our case we solved the issue by cleaning the system really good for the last time and switching to e98
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07-06-2011, 01:31 AM
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here's a quote on the subject from the biggest and first link when i googled "e85 clogging fuel injectors" from the Q&A on this webpage about ethanol.
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Originally Posted by ethanol page
Q: Does ethanol plug fuel injectors?
A: Earlier fuel injectors of the pintle design could form deposits that changed the pattern of the injected fuel. This problem developed from injectors seeping fuel when the vehicle was not running. This formed carbon deposits on the pintle and caused even more leakage. This could happen with any gasoline. Because of this problem, injectors in most vehicles have been re-designed around the popet style and all gasoline is required to carry a detergent component to alleviate the deposit problem.
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myself i haven't seen much residu at all after 3 years, and i just had mine out a week ago doin some wire tucking. Although i am going to ultra sonic shake them and pressure run seafoam and B12 Cleaner through them here soon and see if the IDC's or AFR"s change at all
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