obx lsd [Merged 5-7] limited slip phantom grip - Page 5

damnslowtsi · 11-10-2005, 08:15 PM

Yea, I know about that unit. They have had it on their site for a while now. They are only 45 min. away from me which is a good thing too. I may give it a thought.

As far as Kaaz wearing out fast, as everything else it depends. I know some guys who have had it trouble free for pretty long time. Plus it has its own benefits. The main attraction of OBX to me is the price..

jrpmp69 · 11-11-2005, 12:35 AM

The owner of Sparktec Motorsports asked me to send the unit back to him and he would refund my money. He also told me that he was returning all of his units to OBX.

I was attracted to the OBX unit because of the price also, and look at what happened.
I have made up my mind and i am definitely getting a Kormex LSD, i dont think i can cough up another $400 to get the Quaife, i'm paying quite a bit to get the tranny rebuilt as it is.

DSSA · 11-15-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jshepherd

Just a quick update guys. The obx unit that I received with a customers trans does not and will not fit a fwd case. There are several reason why and no amount of machining can fix the problem. The speedo gear also will never come in contact with the speedo pinion gear.

So I would assume that with all the r&d that was suppose to be done that I must have the wrong unit although the axle holes are the right diameter, it was made for a dsm ring gear and has the spot for the speedo gear just like the quaife.

John,

I'd be interested in hearing what actually *doesn't* fit with the unit.

I've seen people that have ran them in DSM transmissions (albeit, not a lot) that have made them fit.

I'd like to hear exactly what the problem(s) was/were that you had trying to make one work.

jshepherd · 11-15-2005, 11:41 PM

Josh,
I would rather you contact me privately on this matter. I can assure you that there is no possible way that the unit I had would ever fit a dsm fwd case. Like I said before there is no amount of machining possible that would allow this to fit.

13secondGST · 11-16-2005, 12:01 AM

Im with you on this one jsheperd. i compared and compared and their is no way you can machine enough stuff out to make this fit. It seems like a nice unit but you might even have to machine the case and the lsd unit out, but i dont think it can be done. unit is too big and maybe it was made for another car or somethin.

ITSME4G63 · 11-16-2005, 03:40 PM

anything on the fornt lsd on an awd from this company?

kicknyours · 11-25-2005, 10:47 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Item number: 8016943466

i looked on the OBX website and couldn't find anything. i did a search on DSM tuner for LSD and found the topic put nothing about the listing on ebay. Does anybody have one? if so, what do you think of it?

thank you for your time

mavisky · 11-25-2005, 11:01 AM

Next time don't give up right away. From the next to last page in a thread titled OBX LSD - Update

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Originally Posted by jsheperd

Just a quick update guys. The obx unit that I received with a customers trans does not and will not fit a fwd case. There are several reason why and no amount of machining can fix the problem. The speedo gear also will never come in contact with the speedo pinion gear.

So I would assume that with all the r&d that was suppose to be done that I must have the wrong unit although the axle holes are the right diameter, it was made for a dsm ring gear and has the spot for the speedo gear just like the quaife.

Revolution · 11-30-2005, 04:57 AM

Could it be possible that these obx front lsd's where meant for an awd model?

Im sorry but is their any differences in the carrier sizes between awd models and fwd models?

Maybe John Sheppard or maybe phantom hp could answer this?

jshepherd · 11-30-2005, 05:10 AM

The 93 and later fwd only cars had a larger axle shaft and these diffs were set up for the larger axle. There was obviously no thought put into it because even if it did fit the speedometer gear would never be able to come in contact with the speedometer pinion.

Revolution · 12-02-2005, 03:34 AM

So I take it that these lsd's wouldnt be able to fit into an awd dsm's front carrier.

Gotcha John. Oh and congrats on breaking into the 7's.

VelocitàPaola · 12-13-2005, 11:18 PM

There's been a few threads about this before, but they've all been closed, so please stick to the topic and nothing else.

Both here and on 2GNT, very few people have actually bought and tested the OBX LSD for the 420A. Shep said there was serious fitment issues with OBX LSDs, but as we all know, those are for the 4G63. Quite a few people on 2GNT all say they "know Honda guys who have had excellent results."

Obviously, none of this really helps us with the 420A. If you have first hand experience with this LSD, please share your experiences. In particular, I'm looking for notes on fitment, function, and overall quality (Please no "all OBX is crap!" or "OBX = SSAutoChrome" comments).

Finally, I'd just like to say that the availability of Quaife and Mopar LSDs has been beaten to death on this forum. We all know they're great - they're unfortunately, expensive too... so please keep the discussion to the OBX LSD. Thanks.

XMasta19 · 12-14-2005, 12:08 AM

I read no mention of phantom grip

VelocitàPaola · 12-14-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by VelocitàPaola

Finally, I'd just like to say that the availability of Quaife and Mopar LSDs has been beaten to death on this forum. We all know they're great - they're unfortunately, expensive too...

...and Phantom Grips. They're wonderful; they're inexpensive, and they'll destroy your spider gears if you have more than 350 hp and you like to launch hard.

Eitherway...

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Originally Posted by VelocitàPaola

please keep the discussion to the OBX LSD. Thanks.

dr1665 · 12-14-2005, 09:27 AM

Buddy of mine here in Phoenix just snagged one of these on eBay for under $450 shipped. I've seen it and it looks fairly stout. There is a need to press the outer bearings in place and he's also suspecting there might be issues with installing the speedometer gear ring (literally a "square-peg-round-hole" situation), but otherwise, there isn't anything overtly out of the ordinary.

It's not installed yet, but I can follow up with him as he goes. He's also curious if anyone has information on this thing. I'd post a picture, but it's too large and I can't resize anything here at work. Maybe later. Looks just like the Quaiffe, though. We're optimistic.

VelocitàPaola · 12-14-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dr1665

It's not installed yet, but I can follow up with him as he goes.

That'd be great. Like I said, so far all I know is that the 4G63 guys haven't had much luck with it; but there's so many conflicting stories over at 2GNT... just make sure to keep us posted!

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Originally Posted by dr1665

I'd post a picture

I'll take care of that...

BigRand · 12-14-2005, 12:15 PM

http://www.amcparts.net/

(click honda lsd's, then look for mitsu 420a eclipse)

Is another company selling FULL LSD's (not phantom grip styles) for cheap (about 550)

But I just wanted to throw this product into the dissucsions of if it works/fits/ and still good even though its cheap.

VelocitàPaola · 12-14-2005, 12:37 PM

I see... I could never find the LSD for the 420A on that site before. Click on Honda first... right! It makes so much sense!

Anyway, it looks like the OBX one to me, so if anybody knows about these, please comment.

XMasta19 · 12-14-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRand

http://www.amcparts.net/

(click honda lsd's, then look for mitsu 420a eclipse)

Is another company selling FULL LSD's (not phantom grip styles) for cheap (about 550)

But I just wanted to throw this product into the dissucsions of if it works/fits/ and still good even though its cheap.

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Originally Posted by velocitaguy

I said keep the discussion to OBX only...

How'd you come across that one, and have you read about it anywhere yet